From mailingliste_gis at gmx.de Thu Nov 2 07:37:01 2006 From: mailingliste_gis at gmx.de (mailingliste_gis@gmx.de) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:37:01 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= Message-ID: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> Hallo Liste, ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie Software/Open Source??? sch?ne Woche, thomas -- GMX DSL-Flatrate 0,- Euro* - ?berall, wo DSL verf?gbar ist! NEU: Jetzt bis zu 16.000 kBit/s! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From neteler at itc.it Thu Nov 2 14:03:27 2006 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:03:27 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20061102130327.GA4556@bartok.itc.it> On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 07:37:01AM +0100, mailingliste_gis at gmx.de wrote: > Hallo Liste, > > ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie Software/Open Source??? > > sch?ne Woche, Thomas, please see the related activities on the OSGeo Wiki: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Mobile_Solutions Markus From mateusz at loskot.net Thu Nov 2 14:22:09 2006 From: mateusz at loskot.net (Mateusz Loskot) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:22:09 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: <20061102130327.GA4556@bartok.itc.it> References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> <20061102130327.GA4556@bartok.itc.it> Message-ID: <4549F101.4010906@loskot.net> Markus Neteler wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 07:37:01AM +0100, mailingliste_gis at gmx.de wrote: >> Hallo Liste, >> >> ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie Software/Open Source??? >> >> sch?ne Woche, > > Thomas, > > please see the related activities on the OSGeo Wiki: > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Mobile_Solutions We've launched Mobile GIS project but it's still in conceptual stage. There also is mailing list dedicated for Open Source Mobile GIS solutions: http://mobile.maptools.org/ Cheers -- Mateusz Loskot http://mateusz.loskot.net From jan-oliver.wagner at intevation.de Fri Nov 3 23:24:43 2006 From: jan-oliver.wagner at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:24:43 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200611032324.43966.jan-oliver.wagner@intevation.de> On Thursday 02 November 2006 07:37, mailingliste_gis at gmx.de wrote: > ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI > f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie > Software/Open Source??? this question comes up quite frequently recently ;-) There is no ready solution yet. Though some helpful components have been ported for PDA use already. Of course you should distinguish between Windows PDAs and Linux PDAs. The latter means leass problems, but you don't find many in field use. I am currently working out a realization plan for a subset of what ArcPad is. It is specific to the needs of a customer, though. In case it comes to a implementation it will be Free Software - of course :-) Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner: www.intevation.de/~jan | GISpatcher: www.gispatcher.de Kolab Konsortium : www.kolab-konsortium.de | Thuban : thuban.intevation.org Intevation GmbH : www.intevation.de | Kolab : www.kolab.org FreeGIS : www.freegis.org | GAV : www.grass-verein.de From wharms at bfs.de Sat Nov 4 13:35:20 2006 From: wharms at bfs.de (walter harms) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:35:20 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS-Job in Freiburg (germany) In-Reply-To: <450ABA82.80508@bfs.de> References: <450ABA82.80508@bfs.de> Message-ID: <454C8908.4080004@bfs.de> after some delay it is now official: http://www.bfs.de/bfs/ausschreibungen/stellen/Anz00434.html unfortunately the deadline with very soon, so you may apply fast. re, wh walter harms wrote: > Hi List, > this is a pre-release: > > Is anyone interested in a GIS-Job in Freiburg ? > AS part of the Eu-project INTERMAP (INTeroperability and > Automated MAPing) we have to offer BAT-II/2 position for 2 Years, > start ASAP. > > Candidates should have a degree in Physics or related Sciences. > The development is strongly based on Linux and OpenSource GIS Software, > so programming experience in needed. > > In the near future you will find the formal job offer on the BfS homepage. > For more Information take a look at www.bfs.de > or reply to me. > > For our Non-German list members: please apply also if you have a good understand > of German language > > re, > wh > > T?tigkeit: > > Wissenschafltiche Mitarbeiter/in im Rahmen des INTAMAP-Forschungsvorhabens > > * Entwicklung von Verfahren zur Harmonisierung von ODL-Messwerten und von allgemein > anwendbaren Kriterien bei der Erzeugung von Fr?hwarnungen unter Zugrundelegung der > Daten des EU-Datenzentrums in Ispra/Italien. > * Entwicklung eines raum/zeitlichen gestuften Ausbreitungssimulationsmodells zur Berechnung > von Ausbreitungsdaten und Abbildung der Daten auf unregelm??ige St?tzstellen > (die realen Messstellen) unter Zugrundelegung geografischer Hintergrundinformation. > Entwicklung von 10 unterschiedlichen europaweiten Szenarien f?r den Test der INTAMAP-Algorithmen. > Anwendung des Ausbreitungssimultaionsmodells unter Ber?cksichtigung der ausgew?hlten > Szenarien auf das INTAMAP-Programmpaket. > * Variation von Einzelwerten zur Simulation von Ausreissern und Test des > INTAMAP-Programmpakets inkl. der von den ?brigen Projektpartnern entwickelten statistischen Methoden. > > Voraussetzungen: > > * Abgeschlossenes Hochschulstudium der Fachrichtung Physik oder evtl. einer anderen > einschl?gigen naturwissenschaftlichen oder technischen Ausrichtung > * Einschl?gige Kenntnisse auf dem Gebiet der physikalischen Messtechnik, des > Strahlenschutzes und der Datenverarbeitung und -auswertung sowie moderner > kommunikationstechnischer Methoden (Linux, C-Programmierung, geografischer > Informationssysteme, relationale Datenbanken, SQL und Intranet-Techniken) > * Fachspezifische Kenntnisse in Englisch > * Ausgepr?gte Kooperationsbereitschaft und sicheres Auftreten > > Die Stelle ist auf 2 Jahre befristet > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From h-j.luecking at t-online.de Sat Nov 4 16:07:31 2006 From: h-j.luecking at t-online.de (HeinzJ) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:07:31 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> Message-ID: <454CACB3.50205@t-online.de> mailingliste_gis at gmx.de schrieb: > Hallo Liste, > > ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie Software/Open Source??? > > sch?ne Woche, > > thomas Im GISWiki sind ein paar Links diesbet?glich zusammengetragen worden: http://de.giswiki.net/wiki/Kategorie:Mobiles_GIS Gr??e Heinz-Josef L?cking Klausstr. 40 28309 Bremen Germany Tel.:(49) 0421 4585 831 E-Post.: h-j.luecking at t-online.de Website: http://h-j-luecking.de Projekt: http://giswiki.org From bthoen at gisnet.com Wed Nov 8 15:36:50 2006 From: bthoen at gisnet.com (Bill Thoen) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:36:50 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] US National Weather Service Seeks Advice for Formats to use for GIS Data Distribution Message-ID: <20061108143650.GA7130@www.gisnet.com> I was asked to pass this on to anyone who might be interested: ===================================================================== Headline: *N**WS Information in Geospatial Format*** To advance the environmental information enterprise, NOAA/NWS plans to provide information in forms that can be easily incorporated into GIS applications. We are seeking comments from users on the provision of geospatial information. Link anchor: Tell us what you think... Link to: https://ocwws.weather.gov/gis/index.php ==================================================================== From ral at alum.mit.edu Wed Nov 8 19:34:19 2006 From: ral at alum.mit.edu (Roger Longhorn) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:34:19 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Geoweb tools - Platial Launches MapKit Message-ID: <4552232B.10502@alum.mit.edu> Another interesting advance in free tools to make Google Earth more useful to those wishing to do more than merely paste a 'push pin' onto an image. And with more and more imagery becoming available for free (see recent Canadian government announcements), this is just another example of how "GIS Lite" can be extended in the future to open up new possibilities for non-core GIS functionality in freely available services. My reading of the comments from the assembled technology pundits at the recent AGI'06 conference in London (Michael Jones, CTO of Google Earth; Vincent Tao, director of Microsoft's Virtual Earth subsidiary; Andy Duff, ESRI Technical Director; Ed Parsons, CTO at Ordnance Survey GB) are: * Google Earth adds new data and 'customer-friendly' functionality regularly, based on what 'customers' want - and continually augments its underpinning imagery, * Virtual Earth competes with G.E. product, service and functionality - and continually augments its underpinning imagery, * neither G.E. nor V.E. were yet able to deliver anything other than 'simple mapping' to their mass audiences - yet this alone is creating a new level of interest among a whole new class of potential GI users, and * the future is in "geoweb services" where the traditional GIS industry has been too slow to recognize and incorporate 'disruptive technologies' from other industries, such as Wi-Fi, GPS, G.E. and V.E. etc. Perhaps Ed Parsons summed it up best when he said that the GIS industry needed to "look to the edge to innovate". Unfortunately, playing 'catch-up' is hard to do. Most GIS vendors seem to have trouble simply launching the latest upgrades to their software based on known customer demands without adding yet more complexity to their offerings by 'looking to the edge'. In just the past few weeks, I have run across a number of applications based on Google Earth that are beyond 'click on the push-pin' and offer serious competition to similar solutions that would have required implementation of a GIS, in the past, even if only about 5% of the functionality of that GIS was required for many of the more simple "click to view" applications for which GIS packages are often put to use. It is in these areas that G.E. and V.E. are already making important contributions - and one wonders just how many hundreds of similar applications have never been implemented, by resource-starved NGOs, small firms, citizens groups, etc. - because they lacked the knowledge and resources (cash!) to afford to implement a 'heavy lift' GIS solution, let alone a web server, geo or otherwise. Kind regards Roger Longhorn ral at alum.mit.edu -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Platial Launches MapKit Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:51:53 -0800 From: Di-Ann Eisnor To: ral at alum.mit.edu Fellow Mappers, Today Platial launched MapKit. While our maps have been published on 4000+ sites and blogs, this marks the first time we have been able to put Platial functionality on remote sites. Anyone who has ever wanted to make maps with their own users/readers on their own site, can. And for free too! Making maps, adding Places, leaving comments, uploading photos, embedding video... it's all possible from the MapKit, which takes literally less than a minute to install and keeps your users on your site and on some blogs. http://www.platial.com/mapkit As with Platial.com, we won't know exactly how you want to use it, so please let us know if you'd like us to work on any features to support mapmaking on your site or blog. (We know that we still owe you a few features on Platial.com as well- don't worry, they're coming). This also marks the first email we're sending to our entire member base, so while we have you here, we'd like to say thank you. Platial has evolved a great deal since we launched last December, in great part because of your feedback and seemingly infinite number of ways you find to make maps and talk about Places. Your maps and places are inspiring, funny, witty, provocative and stretch the bounds of how we can view the world spatially. Happy Mapping, Di-Ann, Jake, Jason, Chris, Tracy, Aaron, Sayumi www.platial.com From jo at frot.org Thu Nov 9 03:48:16 2006 From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:48:16 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Geoweb tools - Platial Launches MapKit In-Reply-To: <4552232B.10502@alum.mit.edu> References: <4552232B.10502@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20061109024816.GX2098@vishnu.tridity.org> dear Roger, On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:34:19PM +0100, Roger Longhorn wrote: > Another interesting advance in free tools to make Google Earth more > useful to those wishing to do more than merely paste a 'push pin' onto > an image. While it's great that Platial have sent out a press release, I don't see how this is different from worldkit, mapbureau, mapufacture, openmap, openlayers, mapbuilder, mapbender, or any of the heritage tools, open source or not, that have been released in a less PR-friendly climate. > And with more and more imagery becoming available for free > (see recent Canadian government announcements), this is just another > example of how "GIS Lite" can be extended in the future to open up new > possibilities for non-core GIS functionality in freely available services. I wonder how "Freely available" is defined here. Not freely available to redistribute, to use in any kind of offline application, to repackage or to adapt. No guarantees about future functionality, sustainability or quality of service, not strong enough for a real commercial or a reliable civic application. http://blog.okfn.org/2006/09/04/open-apis-dont-equal-open-knowledge/ > Perhaps Ed Parsons summed it up best when he said that the GIS industry > needed to "look to the edge to innovate". Unfortunately, playing > 'catch-up' is hard to do. Most GIS vendors seem to have trouble simply > launching the latest upgrades to their software based on known customer > demands without adding yet more complexity to their offerings by > 'looking to the edge'. Well, both you and I are preaching to the choir here, knowing that the open source GIS community is leading over the edge, driving the implementation and development of open standards which will benefit all customers and eventually even trickles back into proprietary products. And what has held the community back - what led the WorldWind project, deluged with non-US users demanding to know where their data was, to start the Free Earth Foundation - what led the Open Source Geospatial Foundation to start working on open geodata as well as open source software right from the start - is data availability, the lack thereof. > important contributions - and one wonders just how many hundreds of > similar applications have never been implemented, by resource-starved > NGOs, small firms, citizens groups, etc. - because they lacked the > knowledge and resources (cash!) to afford to implement a 'heavy lift' > GIS solution, let alone a web server, geo or otherwise. Knowledge and resources are still needed to write applications to a proprietary API. Web service storage space has been a free-as-in-beer commodity for a long time, and recently at a sophisticated level, looking at hosted app services like Ning. All i can really see that has changed is the level of PR awareness and the amounts of gold that the West Coast megacorps are throwing around in data licensing costs in order to capitalise on that PR to boost imaginary-numbers market-cap. Well, let our friends at Platial keep sending out press releases, and hope that rising tide keeps raising all boats and doesn't swamp a lot of small ones, jo From janeen at splash.princeton.edu Fri Nov 10 15:54:36 2006 From: janeen at splash.princeton.edu (Janeen) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:54:36 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Greetings and Salutations! Message-ID: <455492AC.7040602@splash.princeton.edu> Hello All, I've just found this list while trawling about on the web looking for a Linux based utility that will convert NetCDF datasets to a format that ESRI based GIS software can easily read. I want to be able to send files generated by a global warming model on to a research team in Canada for further use by their model. My one requirement is that all the converting work be on my (Linux) end. The Canadian team must be able to read my finished product as is. Likely, though still not decided, it will be in the ASCII-GRID format. Has anyone heard of any existing utilities to do this? I may end up writing a quick and dirty program to do it. I didn't find a specification for this file format on the ESRI site, but I did find a good description at: http://www.ocs.orst.edu/prism/docs/meta/arcasciigrid.phtml Can anyone foresee any gotchas if I do end up writing a utility? Cheers! Janeen From tutey at o2.pl Fri Nov 10 19:29:03 2006 From: tutey at o2.pl (Maciej Sieczka) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:03 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Greetings and Salutations! In-Reply-To: <455492AC.7040602@splash.princeton.edu> References: <455492AC.7040602@splash.princeton.edu> Message-ID: <4554C4EF.1080804@o2.pl> Janeen wrote: > I've just found this list while trawling about on the web looking for a > Linux based utility that will convert NetCDF datasets to a format that > ESRI based GIS software can easily read. > Has anyone heard of any existing utilities to do this? gdal_translate, from GDAL; if GDAL is built with NetCDF support. Maciek From epk.lists at gmail.com Sun Nov 12 02:29:49 2006 From: epk.lists at gmail.com (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:29:49 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] foss-GIS rpm's for Fedora 5 Message-ID: <2d1782780611111729y5e763fe4k70ba08147cb3bc7c@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, At my downloads sectionsI have published some RPM's for ShapeLib, PROJ, GEOS, PostGIS, GDAL, GRASS and MapServer. Currently I only tested these pack under two different machines but both running FC5. Let me know if is there any license restrictions within any package. -- Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20061111/4381ec0c/attachment.html From janeen at splash.princeton.edu Mon Nov 13 15:59:02 2006 From: janeen at splash.princeton.edu (Janeen) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:59:02 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Greetings and Salutations! In-Reply-To: <4554C4EF.1080804@o2.pl> References: <455492AC.7040602@splash.princeton.edu> <4554C4EF.1080804@o2.pl> Message-ID: <45588836.5030900@splash.princeton.edu> My thanks to all who responded to me directly. I tried to send you an individual reply, but I think spam blockers bounced it back to me. The GDAL lead is one that I had not stumbled on on my own. Cheers! Janeen > Janeen wrote: > > >> I've just found this list while trawling about on the web looking for a >> Linux based utility that will convert NetCDF datasets to a format that >> ESRI based GIS software can easily read. >> > > > > >> Has anyone heard of any existing utilities to do this? >> > > > From h-j.luecking at t-online.de Mon Nov 6 23:54:06 2006 From: h-j.luecking at t-online.de (HeinzJ) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: <454CACB3.50205@t-online.de> References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> <454CACB3.50205@t-online.de> Message-ID: HeinzJ schrieb: > mailingliste_gis at gmx.de schrieb: >> Hallo Liste, >> >> ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Software, die ?hnlich wie ArcPad von ESRI f?r den Einsatz auf PDA's geeignet ist. Gibt es so etwas im Bereich Freie Software/Open Source??? >> >> sch?ne Woche, >> >> thomas > > Im GISWiki sind ein paar Links diesbet?glich zusammengetragen worden: > > http://de.giswiki.net/wiki/Kategorie:Mobiles_GIS > > Gr??e > > Heinz-Josef L?cking > > Klausstr. 40 > 28309 Bremen > Germany > > Tel.:(49) 0421 4585 831 > E-Post.: h-j.luecking at t-online.de > Website: http://h-j-luecking.de > Projekt: http://giswiki.org Wieso erscheinen hier eigentlich Beitr?ge mit einer Versp?tung von 3 Tagen ? Gr??e HeinzJ From tutey at o2.pl Tue Nov 14 17:39:03 2006 From: tutey at o2.pl (Maciej Sieczka) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:39:03 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-2?q?gis_f=FCr_pda=27s?= In-Reply-To: References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> <454CACB3.50205@t-online.de> Message-ID: <4559F127.6060902@o2.pl> Gentlemen, Veuillez parler anglais. Ahoi Maciek From jan-oliver.wagner at intevation.de Tue Nov 14 21:57:54 2006 From: jan-oliver.wagner at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:57:54 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] delayed postings In-Reply-To: References: <20061102063701.135340@gmx.net> <454CACB3.50205@t-online.de> Message-ID: <200611142157.55483.jan-oliver.wagner@intevation.de> On Monday 06 November 2006 23:54, HeinzJ wrote: > Wieso erscheinen hier eigentlich Beitr?ge mit einer Versp?tung von 3 > Tagen ? the question was: why are some postings delayed for several days? The answer is: Some of the list members use a different From-Address than they have subscribed with. Such postings are hold for moderation. You do get a notification on this fact. Currently I am the only active moderator, so it may take some days upto weeks (when I am on holiday) until I can approve such a posting. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner: www.intevation.de/~jan | GISpatcher: www.gispatcher.de Kolab Konsortium : www.kolab-konsortium.de | Thuban : thuban.intevation.org Intevation GmbH : www.intevation.de | Kolab : www.kolab.org FreeGIS : www.freegis.org | GAV : www.grass-verein.de From jgomezdans at gmail.com Thu Nov 16 23:22:05 2006 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:22:05 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Maps and barcharts Message-ID: <200611162322.05994.jgomezdans@gmail.com> Hi! We have a lot of data in different formats (shapefiles, tables...). We want to move all this data to a database (read: PostGIS) in order to produce the sort of studies we have been producing so far with very labour intensive methods :) So far, so good. PostGIS spatial queries are awesome, and coupled with Python, Matplotlib and LaTeX, I am producing very good looking reports. However, it is producing adding cartography to this mix. I have in the past used GMT for raster data, and I guess I could convert WellKnownText into something that GMT understands. However, there is a need to produce cartography with pie charts, bar charts and other stuff on them, something like what this image shows: (this is just a random example found googling around). Even automatically producing simple maps of vector data coloured by attribute (with a nice legend, scale bar et al.) would be very helpful. Is there some FOSS framework to accomplish this task? Many thanks, Jose From pcreso at pcreso.com Thu Nov 16 23:59:50 2006 From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:59:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] Maps and barcharts In-Reply-To: <200611162322.05994.jgomezdans@gmail.com> Message-ID: <620183.25193.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: > Hi! > We have a lot of data in different formats (shapefiles, tables...). We want > to move all this data to a database (read: PostGIS) in order to produce the > sort of studies we have been producing so far with very labour intensive > methods :) Way to go, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, with reasonable success, here in New Zealand. > So far, so good. PostGIS spatial queries are awesome, and coupled with > Python, > Matplotlib and LaTeX, I am producing very good looking reports. However, it > is producing adding cartography to this mix. I have in the past used GMT for > raster data, and I guess I could convert WellKnownText into something that > GMT understands. However, there is a need to produce cartography with pie > charts, bar charts and other stuff on them, something like what this image > shows: > (this is just a random example found googling around). Even automatically > producing simple maps of vector data coloured by attribute (with a nice > legend, scale bar et al.) would be very helpful. > > Is there some FOSS framework to accomplish this task? Hi Jose, This should be of interest.... I have been given access to some $$ to fund the development of an OGR GMT driver, so PostGIS data can be directly written to GMT format (& vice versa), using ogr2ogr (also shapefiles, etc). I think this will pretty much accomplish much of what you are asking. This project is very recent, and Paul Wessel (GMT developer) has suggested addressing some of the limits in the way GMT handles vector data, which will require modifications and header support in GMT vector data files. I'm discussing this with Paul, after which I'll be posting the proposal to the GMT mailing list for discussion & comment. We want to include basic topology (ie; polygons with holes) and attribute data for the spatial features in a structure which is bacwards compatible with existing GMT code. We're probably not that far away. My funding is limited, so if anyone else is able to contribute in the case of this revised capability exceeding the amount I have availble, it may be useful (and give you some say in what we finish up with :-) I have also used GMT to generate pie charts on maps, looking just a good as other GMT output. My script iterated through the data fields for each point, drawing the wedges for each field in separate passes. If you define your map space by a cartesian space covering your data extent, GMT can also draw very effectrive graphs & scatterplots. Slightly cumbersome, but the results are fine. You could also use the gd primitives to build up graphs, I know the graphs on www.netcraft.com are done this way (as an example), and they cover a fair range of outputs. You can use ImageMagick to convert these to sun rasters & put them on your GMT map with GMT. Cheers, Brent Wood ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Rates near historic lows - $200,000 mortgage for $660/ month - http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com From alxponom at mail.ru Wed Nov 15 11:16:28 2006 From: alxponom at mail.ru (Alex Ponomarev) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:16:28 +0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] GISar project new release message Message-ID: New version of "GISar" project (v111106) has been released. Support tools added and available for download at the project site: * Huge bitmap to jpeg tiles-set divider. * Bitmap fragments composition to jpeg tiles-set divider. * Tiled image editor. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, www.gisar.sf.net From esamsalah at gmail.com Wed Nov 22 18:56:25 2006 From: esamsalah at gmail.com (essam salah) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:56:25 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format Message-ID: Dear All Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other GIS vector format? Thanks Essam Salah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20061122/78f95a79/attachment.html From Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org Thu Nov 23 11:54:11 2006 From: Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org (Jeroen Ticheler) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:54:11 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1929E7B2-2AF1-4901-868E-0B1EC55CDB1D@fao.org> Not sure what the IMG files are, but gpsbabel lists a range of mapsource formats that it can convert. http://www.gpsbabel.org/ capabilities.html Jeroen On Nov 22, 2006, at 6:56 PM, essam salah wrote: > Dear All > > Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other > GIS vector format? > > Thanks > Essam Salah > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From j.cook at oxfordarch.co.uk Thu Nov 23 12:08:30 2006 From: j.cook at oxfordarch.co.uk (joanne cook) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:08:30 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format Message-ID: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B63@servermail2.janus2.com> Hi, Yes- by coincidence I'm doing that right at this moment! What you need is a programme called gpsmapedit from http://www.geopainting.com/en/. It's shareware (44 euros for activation on 5 machines) and paying for it unlocks the option to convert to mapinfo, though it does have other options. From mapinfo you can of course convert to most other things- I don't really know about free options for doing this though. Hope this helps Jo ------------------------------------------- Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS Information Systems Coordinator Oxford Archaeology North ------------------------------------------- ________________________________ From: essam salah [mailto:esamsalah at gmail.com] Sent: Wed 22/11/2006 17:56 To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format Dear All Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other GIS vector format? Thanks Essam Salah This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com From Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org Thu Nov 23 12:58:29 2006 From: Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org (Jeroen Ticheler) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:58:29 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format In-Reply-To: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B63@servermail2.janus2.com> References: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B63@servermail2.janus2.com> Message-ID: <509FFDAF-3A2B-4B0C-AFD3-99FD9BA35A29@fao.org> Oh, obviously, being on the freegis list, I didn't mention that gpsbabel is free and open source software. Jeroen On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:08 PM, joanne cook wrote: > Hi, > > Yes- by coincidence I'm doing that right at this moment! > > What you need is a programme called gpsmapedit from http:// > www.geopainting.com/en/. It's shareware (44 euros for activation on > 5 machines) and paying for it unlocks the option to convert to > mapinfo, though it does have other options. From mapinfo you can of > course convert to most other things- I don't really know about free > options for doing this though. > > Hope this helps > > Jo > > ------------------------------------------- > Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS > Information Systems Coordinator > Oxford Archaeology North > ------------------------------------------- > > ________________________________ > > From: essam salah [mailto:esamsalah at gmail.com] > Sent: Wed 22/11/2006 17:56 > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format > > > Dear All > > Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other > GIS vector format? > > Thanks > Essam Salah > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider > MailControl - www.blackspider.com > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From j.cook at oxfordarch.co.uk Thu Nov 23 13:03:28 2006 From: j.cook at oxfordarch.co.uk (joanne cook) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:03:28 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format Message-ID: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B65@servermail2.janus2.com> Hi Jeroen, This looks very useful indeed- though I can't see img files on the list of supported formats at a quick glance. If there had been a free and open source solution to this problem that I knew of, I'd have suggested it but I spent a long time trying to find any solution at all and this was the only achievable (and cheap) one! Jo ------------------------------------------- Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS Information Systems Coordinator Oxford Archaeology North ------------------------------------------- ________________________________ From: Jeroen Ticheler [mailto:Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org] Sent: Thu 23/11/2006 11:58 To: joanne cook; essam salah Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format Oh, obviously, being on the freegis list, I didn't mention that gpsbabel is free and open source software. Jeroen On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:08 PM, joanne cook wrote: > Hi, > > Yes- by coincidence I'm doing that right at this moment! > > What you need is a programme called gpsmapedit from http:// > www.geopainting.com/en/. It's shareware (44 euros for activation on > 5 machines) and paying for it unlocks the option to convert to > mapinfo, though it does have other options. From mapinfo you can of > course convert to most other things- I don't really know about free > options for doing this though. > > Hope this helps > > Jo > > ------------------------------------------- > Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS > Information Systems Coordinator > Oxford Archaeology North > ------------------------------------------- > > ________________________________ > > From: essam salah [mailto:esamsalah at gmail.com] > Sent: Wed 22/11/2006 17:56 > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format > > > Dear All > > Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other > GIS vector format? > > Thanks > Essam Salah > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider > MailControl - www.blackspider.com > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From wharms at bfs.de Thu Nov 23 17:29:38 2006 From: wharms at bfs.de (walter harms) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:29:38 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] GISar project new release message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4565CC72.4010901@bfs.de> hi Alex, your webpage seems is gisar.sf.net and does mot work for me because i have disabled js by default. re, wh Alex Ponomarev wrote: > New version of "GISar" project (v111106) has been released. > Support tools added and available for download at the project site: > > * Huge bitmap to jpeg tiles-set divider. > * Bitmap fragments composition to jpeg tiles-set divider. > * Tiled image editor. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Regards, > www.gisar.sf.net > > > From alxponom at mail.ru Fri Nov 24 05:48:08 2006 From: alxponom at mail.ru (Alex Ponomarev) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:48:08 +0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] =?koi8-r?b?R0lTYXIgcHJvamVjdCBuZXcgcmVsZWFzZSBt?= =?koi8-r?b?ZXNzYWdl?= In-Reply-To: =?koi8-r?Q?<4565CC72.4010901=40bfs.de>?= Message-ID: Hi, Walter Yes, that use "js" for redirect. Use http://gisar.sourceforge.net/ENG/Index.htm instead. -----Original Message----- From: walter harms To: Alex Ponomarev Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:29:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] GISar project new release message > > hi Alex, > your webpage seems is gisar.sf.net and does mot work for me > because i have disabled js by default. > > re, > wh > > Alex Ponomarev wrote: > > New version of "GISar" project (v111106) has been released. > > Support tools added and available for download at the project site: > > > > * Huge bitmap to jpeg tiles-set divider. > > * Bitmap fragments composition to jpeg tiles-set divider. > > * Tiled image editor. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Regards, > > www.gisar.sf.net > > > > > > > From h-j.luecking at t-online.de Thu Nov 23 13:17:05 2006 From: h-j.luecking at t-online.de (HeinzJ) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:17:05 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format In-Reply-To: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B65@servermail2.janus2.com> References: <0BC713988F4ACD4BB87C1028B70BB2D4246B65@servermail2.janus2.com> Message-ID: There are a few Links on GISWiki regarding "Garmin" http://en.giswiki.net/wiki/Special:Search?search=garmin&fulltext=Search HeinzJ joanne cook schrieb: > Hi Jeroen, > > This looks very useful indeed- though I can't see img files on the list of supported formats at a quick glance. If there had been a free and open source solution to this problem that I knew of, I'd have suggested it but I spent a long time trying to find any solution at all and this was the only achievable (and cheap) one! > > Jo > > ------------------------------------------- > Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS > Information Systems Coordinator > Oxford Archaeology North > ------------------------------------------- > > ________________________________ > > From: Jeroen Ticheler [mailto:Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org] > Sent: Thu 23/11/2006 11:58 > To: joanne cook; essam salah > Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format > > > > Oh, obviously, being on the freegis list, I didn't mention that > gpsbabel is free and open source software. > Jeroen > > On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:08 PM, joanne cook wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes- by coincidence I'm doing that right at this moment! >> >> What you need is a programme called gpsmapedit from http:// >> www.geopainting.com/en/. It's shareware (44 euros for activation on >> 5 machines) and paying for it unlocks the option to convert to >> mapinfo, though it does have other options. From mapinfo you can of >> course convert to most other things- I don't really know about free >> options for doing this though. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Jo >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> Joanne Cook BSc MLitt AIFA MBCS >> Information Systems Coordinator >> Oxford Archaeology North >> ------------------------------------------- >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: essam salah [mailto:esamsalah at gmail.com] >> Sent: Wed 22/11/2006 17:56 >> To: freegis-list at intevation.de >> Subject: [Freegis-list] Garmin MapSource Format >> >> >> Dear All >> >> Is it possible to convert Garmin MapSource IMG files to any other >> GIS vector format? >> >> Thanks >> Essam Salah >> >> >> >> This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider >> MailControl - www.blackspider.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Freegis-list mailing list >> Freegis-list at intevation.de >> https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com Fri Nov 24 15:19:34 2006 From: sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com (Sunburned Surveyor) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:19:34 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] OpenJUMP Blog Message-ID: <71097ae20611240619kaf6b746s1079fad725c76e13@mail.gmail.com> I should've done this a couple of weeks ago. :] I've started a blog about OpenJUMP. You can find it here: http://openjump.blogspot.com/ I hope to address general GIS topics on the blog, and especially those that deal with open source GIS technology. The Sunburned Surveyor From jachym.cepicky at centrum.cz Fri Nov 24 16:30:55 2006 From: jachym.cepicky at centrum.cz (Jachym Cepicky) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:30:55 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] [discussion] input types in geoprocessing operations Message-ID: <20061124153055.GA7282@localdomain> Hallo, since web user interface developers joined PyWPS team [1], we started to discuss, how to define input types for geospatial operations from user's (client's) point of view. Web Processing Service standard defines input and output types from server's point of view: - ComplexValue and ComplexValueReference for raster and vector maps - BoundingBoxValue - LiteralValue for anything else But there is no description about, how the client could guess, that one input could be dealed as "Mouse click" in the map, or that some input should be of type Combobox or Checkbox. This can be defined, using tag in ProcessDescription XML document. Now we would like to discuss, how each type of input should be defined with Metadata option. What are common attributes and what are not. On PyWPS wiki [2], we allready started some disscution regarding this topic [3]. There is also PyWPS-devel mainling list [4], where both main WUIW [5] (Web User Interface for WPS) developers are activating. Please, feel free add your ideas to wiki or post your comments on it to mailing list or IRC (#pywps on irc.freenode.net). To get general idea about what can be done with PyWPS+GRASS+Web interface (e.g. Ka-map), follow links at Embrio project site [6] and Ka-map bindigs example [7]. Looking forward to your hints and notes Jachym & PyWPS Development Team [1] http://pywps.wald.intevation.org [2] http://pywps.ominiverdi.org/wiki [3] http://pywps.ominiverdi.org/wiki/index.php/Wuiw_Development#input_types_discussion [4] http://lists.wald.intevation.org/mailman/listinfo/pywps-devel [5] http://pywps.ominiverdi.org/ [6] http://pywps.ominiverdi.org/subversion/trunk/web/ [7] http://pywps.ominiverdi.org/subversion/trunk/web/embrio/raster/r_los/r_los_ka_map.php -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: jachym.cepicky at centrum.cz URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub ----------------------------------------- OFFICE: Department of Geoinformation Technologies Zemedelska 3 613 00, Brno Czech Republick e-mail: xcepicky at node.mendelu.cz URL: http://mapserver.mendelu.cz Tel.: +420 545 134 514 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We understand and respect Google's position on the case, so we've removed all downloads from this page and we ask everybody who have ever downloaded gaia 0.1.0 and prior versions to delete all files concerned with the project, which include source code, binary files and image cache (~/.gaia). -- Maurizio "Napo" Napolitano http://www.linux.it/~napo From strk at keybit.net Sun Nov 26 11:23:07 2006 From: strk at keybit.net (strk) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:00:56PM +0100, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > From > http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ > > 25 November 2006, we've got the letter from Michael Jones, the Chief > Technologist of Google Earth, Google Maps, and Google Local search, > requesting us to cease reverse engineering and improper usage of > licensed data that Google Earth use. We understand and respect > Google's position on the case, so we've removed all downloads from > this page and we ask everybody who have ever downloaded gaia 0.1.0 and > prior versions to delete all files concerned with the project, which > include source code, binary files and image cache (~/.gaia). You're kidding, right ? Is this legally enforcable ? --strk(not respecting Google's position); From bthoen at gisnet.com Sun Nov 26 15:44:09 2006 From: bthoen at gisnet.com (Bill Thoen) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:44:09 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> Message-ID: <20061126144409.GA3733@www.gisnet.com> Perhaps it's just a case of a large corproation with more money thna God leaning heavily of a small, unfunded group who doesn't have the resourses to contest it. And maybe Google's got a case too. On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:23:07AM +0100, strk wrote: > On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:00:56PM +0100, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > > From > > http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ > > > > 25 November 2006, we've got the letter from Michael Jones, the Chief > > Technologist of Google Earth, Google Maps, and Google Local search, > > requesting us to cease reverse engineering and improper usage of > > licensed data that Google Earth use. We understand and respect > > Google's position on the case, so we've removed all downloads from > > this page and we ask everybody who have ever downloaded gaia 0.1.0 and > > prior versions to delete all files concerned with the project, which > > include source code, binary files and image cache (~/.gaia). > > You're kidding, right ? Is this legally enforcable ? > > --strk(not respecting Google's position); > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From giovand at gmail.com Sun Nov 26 19:40:53 2006 From: giovand at gmail.com (Cristiano Giovando) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:40:53 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> Message-ID: <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> On 11/26/06, strk wrote: > > > You're kidding, right ? Is this legally enforcable ? It seems totally legitimate, since GAIA was using GE imagery against their Terms of Service. There's plenty of freely available imagery, which GAIA could use instead (see WorldWind, OSSIM, etc). -C -- Cristiano Giovando Department of Geography San Diego State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20061126/f19b6611/attachment.html From cresques at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 00:07:19 2006 From: cresques at gmail.com (Luis W. Sevilla) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:07:19 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> Cristiano Giovando wrote: > > On 11/26/06, *strk* > wrote: > > > You're kidding, right ? Is this legally enforcable ? > > > It seems totally legitimate, since GAIA was using GE imagery against > their Terms of Service. There's plenty of freely available imagery, > which GAIA could use instead (see WorldWind, OSSIM, etc). What's the clause of Google's Terms of Service gaia was not respecting? I've read it twice, and says anything against using it. greetings Luis, from gvSIG project From giovand at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 01:31:02 2006 From: giovand at gmail.com (Cristiano Giovando) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:31:02 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> On 11/26/06, Luis W. Sevilla wrote: > > > What's the clause of Google's Terms of Service gaia was not respecting? > I've read it twice, and says anything against using it. > It seems pretty clear.... 3. PROPRIETARY RIGHTS (a) You are only licensing rights to use the Software and the geographical information available to be viewed using the Software. The Software, in whole and in part and all copies thereof, are and will remain the sole and exclusive property of Google. Further, you do not receive any, and Google and/or its licensors (if any) retain all, ownership rights in the geographic information displayed using the Software. The geographic information is copyrighted and may not be copied, even if modified or merged with other data or software. Your use and access of the geographical information may be subject to further license requirements or obligations. BTW, see the update http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ -C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20061126/2a6cf25e/attachment.html From cresques at gmail.com Mon Nov 27 09:39:05 2006 From: cresques at gmail.com (Luis W. Sevilla) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:39:05 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <456AA429.2010300@gmail.com> Cristiano Giovando wrote: > > On 11/26/06, *Luis W. Sevilla* > wrote: > > > What's the clause of Google's Terms of Service gaia was not > respecting? > I've read it twice, and says anything against using it. > > > It seems pretty clear.... > > 3. PROPRIETARY RIGHTS > (a) You are only licensing rights to use the Software and the geographical > information available to be viewed using the Software. The Software, > in whole > and in part and all copies thereof, are and will remain the sole and > exclusive > property of Google. Further, you do not receive any, and Google and/or its > licensors (if any) retain all, ownership rights in the geographic > information > displayed using the Software. The geographic information is > copyrighted and > may not be copied, even if modified or merged with other data or software. > Your use and access of the geographical information may be subject to > further > license requirements or obligations. It's a clause of GE Termos of Service?. I'm working in a piece of software using google maps data, and I'm unable to find any clause in such terms on http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_maps.html > BTW, see the update http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ It seems I must ask him before releasing anything. If problems, only microsoft and yahoo imagery will be available to be used (they seem not to be any constrainst in theirs). Greetings From nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de Mon Nov 27 14:41:04 2006 From: nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de (Nils Faerber) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:41:04 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> Well, IANAL but... This license only covers the data itself, not the software. What Gaia did was to distribute *software* to get the data, not the data itself. And since reverse engeneering is legal in many countries, like Germany where I live, I think that the Gaia software itself is legally absolutely fine - if no original sourcecode from Google Earth is used in it (which I doubt but cannot check anymore :( But there is the moral side effect of it. The Google people are for sure right that projects like Gaia would endanger their product or rather the way they currently exploit it. For the time being and Google Earth still beeing a free service this is a problem and I also think it is a wise decision to retract Gaia source - for now. But noone guarantees that Google Earth continues to be a free service. What if it would be no more? I am personally unsure which side I am on. On the one hand I have pityful understsnading for Google Earth's position. They really might get into trouble with the data providers (thouh I doubt this a little). On the other hand who the heck they think they are to forbid someone to talk about his/her research results (which this retract bid actually is)? In the sense of free software and free knowledge flow this is an absolute no-no. So what do we want? The luxury of being able to browse the world with a proprietory client software we have no control over using a service that might one day start to cost money? Or do we want to promote free software and free knowledge about it? If Google has such a strict licensing with the data providers they could have done a better job in hiding the protocol, e.g. crypting it... but again I cannot even check taht anymore :( My 0,05€... Cheers nils Cristiano Giovando schrieb: > On 11/26/06, Luis W. Sevilla wrote: >> >> >> What's the clause of Google's Terms of Service gaia was not respecting? >> I've read it twice, and says anything against using it. >> > > It seems pretty clear.... > > 3. PROPRIETARY RIGHTS > (a) You are only licensing rights to use the Software and the geographical > information available to be viewed using the Software. The Software, in > whole > and in part and all copies thereof, are and will remain the sole and > exclusive > property of Google. Further, you do not receive any, and Google and/or its > licensors (if any) retain all, ownership rights in the geographic > information > displayed using the Software. The geographic information is copyrighted and > may not be copied, even if modified or merged with other data or software. > Your use and access of the geographical information may be subject to > further > license requirements or obligations. > > > BTW, see the update http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ > > > -C > -- kernel concepts GbR Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- From watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu Mon Nov 27 14:53:09 2006 From: watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu (Gary Watry) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:53:09 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> Message-ID: <456AEDC5.7090406@steam.coaps.fsu.edu> Why don't you (GAIA) use World Wind data from NASA which is free and has no limitations. Nils Faerber wrote: > Well, IANAL but... > This license only covers the data itself, not the software. > What Gaia did was to distribute *software* to get the data, not the data > itself. And since reverse engeneering is legal in many countries, like > Germany where I live, I think that the Gaia software itself is legally > absolutely fine - if no original sourcecode from Google Earth is used in > it (which I doubt but cannot check anymore :( > > But there is the moral side effect of it. > The Google people are for sure right that projects like Gaia would > endanger their product or rather the way they currently exploit it. > > For the time being and Google Earth still beeing a free service this is > a problem and I also think it is a wise decision to retract Gaia source > - for now. > > But noone guarantees that Google Earth continues to be a free service. > What if it would be no more? > > I am personally unsure which side I am on. > > On the one hand I have pityful understsnading for Google Earth's > position. They really might get into trouble with the data providers > (thouh I doubt this a little). > On the other hand who the heck they think they are to forbid someone to > talk about his/her research results (which this retract bid actually > is)? In the sense of free software and free knowledge flow this is an > absolute no-no. > > So what do we want? > The luxury of being able to browse the world with a proprietory client > software we have no control over using a service that might one day > start to cost money? > Or do we want to promote free software and free knowledge about it? > > If Google has such a strict licensing with the data providers they could > have done a better job in hiding the protocol, e.g. crypting it... but > again I cannot even check taht anymore :( > > > My 0,05€... > Cheers > nils > > > Cristiano Giovando schrieb: > >> On 11/26/06, Luis W. Sevilla wrote: >> >>> What's the clause of Google's Terms of Service gaia was not respecting? >>> I've read it twice, and says anything against using it. >>> >>> >> It seems pretty clear.... >> >> 3. PROPRIETARY RIGHTS >> (a) You are only licensing rights to use the Software and the geographical >> information available to be viewed using the Software. The Software, in >> whole >> and in part and all copies thereof, are and will remain the sole and >> exclusive >> property of Google. Further, you do not receive any, and Google and/or its >> licensors (if any) retain all, ownership rights in the geographic >> information >> displayed using the Software. The geographic information is copyrighted and >> may not be copied, even if modified or merged with other data or software. >> Your use and access of the geographical information may be subject to >> further >> license requirements or obligations. >> >> >> BTW, see the update http://gaia.serezhkin.com/ >> >> >> -C >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- --------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended solely for the person or entity for which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. --------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Watry GIS Coordinator Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies FSU / COAPS Johnson Building, RM 231 2035 East Paul Dirac Drive Tallahassee, Florida 32306-2840 Phone (850) 645-7457 E-Mail: watry at coaps.fsu.edu From strk at keybit.net Mon Nov 27 20:28:21 2006 From: strk at keybit.net (strk) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:28:21 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> Message-ID: <20061127192821.GA91647@keybit.net> On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 02:41:04PM +0100, Nils Faerber wrote: > So what do we want? > The luxury of being able to browse the world with a proprietory client > software we have no control over using a service that might one day > start to cost money? > Or do we want to promote free software and free knowledge about it? If the cost of having a free client to their service is their service shutting up, I'm for taking it down. If google cares about that service he'll be first line pushing for freely available datasets. --strk; From watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu Mon Nov 27 21:13:13 2006 From: watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu (Gary Watry) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:13:13 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Gaia project interruped by Google In-Reply-To: <20061127192821.GA91647@keybit.net> References: <49456d740611250500v63c6ec53q91580645450723be@mail.gmail.com> <20061126102306.GD41675@keybit.net> <9c115b5f0611261040j453b33cbj23bc357c41bdddd4@mail.gmail.com> <456A1E27.4020704@gmail.com> <9c115b5f0611261631p74a507bds633ca06e31f6d313@mail.gmail.com> <456AEAF0.7030103@kernelconcepts.de> <20061127192821.GA91647@keybit.net> Message-ID: <456B46D9.9080603@steam.coaps.fsu.edu> Why don't you spend the time on building viewers that use free data. Why build a viewer that access the data without using Google at all? After all, Google is paying to access that data, why should anyone be allowed to access that data on Google's Dime? If you want access to the data, go for it without using Google Applications Is it because it is easier to reverse engineer something that someone else built that works than do it on your own? I think GAIA did the right thing. Or if you have to use Google Technology, get a copy of their API to build from. > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 02:41:04PM +0100, Nils Faerber wrote: > > >> So what do we want? >> The luxury of being able to browse the world with a proprietory client >> software we have no control over using a service that might one day >> start to cost money? >> Or do we want to promote free software and free knowledge about it? >> > > If the cost of having a free client to their service is their > service shutting up, I'm for taking it down. > If google cares about that service he'll be first line pushing > for freely available datasets. > > --strk; > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > -- --------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended solely for the person or entity for which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. --------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Watry GIS Coordinator Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies FSU / COAPS Johnson Building, RM 231 2035 East Paul Dirac Drive Tallahassee, Florida 32306-2840 Phone (850) 645-7457 E-Mail: watry at coaps.fsu.edu