From starged at videotron.ca  Mon May  2 01:26:22 2005
From: starged at videotron.ca (Mario Beauchamp)
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:26:22 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] OpenEV tools and goodies
Message-ID: <4275659E.5040203@videotron.ca>

Hi all,

 From now on, all my tools and custom modules for OpenEV can be found at:
http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/index.htm

Thank you.
--
Mario B.



From aft1972 at yahoo.com  Mon May  9 08:18:48 2005
From: aft1972 at yahoo.com (Ashraf Tammam)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] convert loc to arcview shape file
Message-ID: <20050509061848.2229.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>

Good morning

is there any ne have a tool that can convert ExpertGPS
loc format to arcview shape file format?

regards,
ashraf


		
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From bernhard at intevation.de  Mon May  9 16:10:04 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:10:04 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] convert loc to arcview shape file
In-Reply-To: <20050509061848.2229.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050509061848.2229.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050509141004.GA8260@intevation.de>

Am  8. May 2005 um 23:18:48 schrieb Ashraf Tammam:
> is there any ne have a tool that can convert ExpertGPS
> loc format to arcview shape file format?

According to gpsbabel, expertgps uses the gpx file format.
Searching www.freegis.org for gpx will give you the answer:
You can try gpsbabel (and might need an intermediate step and use
another Free Software tool) and gpx2shp.

http://www.freegis.org/database/viewobj?obj=155
http://www.freegis.org/database/viewobj?obj=63

Bernhard


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From touch_the_perfection364 at yahoo.co.in  Mon May  9 21:17:02 2005
From: touch_the_perfection364 at yahoo.co.in (vinod sharma)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:17:02 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject)
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From jrbtech at gmail.com  Mon May  9 16:04:07 2005
From: jrbtech at gmail.com (JRB Technology)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:04:07 +0000
Subject: [Freegis-list] convert loc to arcview shape file
In-Reply-To: <20050509061848.2229.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050509061848.2229.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e14c93a10505090704585cdd11@mail.gmail.com>

Try this:
http://www.gis.jrbtech.com/seonucleus/index.php/gis/2005/05/09/Convert_GPS_LOC_to_Shape/


On 5/9/05, Ashraf Tammam <aft1972 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good morning
> 
> is there any ne have a tool that can convert ExpertGPS
> loc format to arcview shape file format?
> 
> regards,
> ashraf
> 
> Yahoo! Mail
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
> http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
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From strk at keybit.net  Tue May 10 10:41:47 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:41:47 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
Message-ID: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>

Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
TIA

--strk;



From pcreso at pcreso.com  Tue May 10 11:10:38 2005
From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050510091038.56572.qmail@web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- strk <strk at keybit.net> wrote:

> Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
> Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?

The closest to this I know of are some links on the OGC site, at

http://www.ogcnetwork.org/

However, many of these are commercial sites, or use non OS server software. Not
sure if this is the sort of thing you were after?


Brent Wood



From strk at keybit.net  Tue May 10 11:43:58 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:43:58 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510091038.56572.qmail@web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20050510091038.56572.qmail@web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050510094358.GG2508@keybit.net>

On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:10:38AM -0700, Brent Wood wrote:
> 
> --- strk <strk at keybit.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
> > Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
> 
> The closest to this I know of are some links on the OGC site, at
> 
> http://www.ogcnetwork.org/
> 
> However, many of these are commercial sites, or use non OS server software. Not
> sure if this is the sort of thing you were after?

I don't care about server software being used, just looking
for 'libre' data access.

I've been impressed by the fact that here in Italy no public
administration gives access to geographical data in a "usable" form
(no WMS, let alone WFS!).

I found myself getting topological maps from a Germany site
(gpsdrive did it for me actually). Thanks guys!

Public data should be free, the earth is the place we all leave in,
do we need to pay in order to get a "picture" of it ??

> Brent Wood

--strk;



From bernhard at intevation.de  Tue May 10 11:59:15 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:59:15 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510094358.GG2508@keybit.net>
References: <20050510091038.56572.qmail@web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20050510094358.GG2508@keybit.net>
Message-ID: <20050510095915.GL19432@intevation.de>

Am 10. May 2005 um 11:43:58 schrieb strk:
> On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:10:38AM -0700, Brent Wood wrote:
> > 
> > --- strk <strk at keybit.net> wrote:

> > However, many of these are commercial sites, or use non OS
> > server software. Not sure if this is the sort of thing you were
> > after?
> 
> I don't care about server software being used, just looking
> for 'libre' data access.

The question for FreeGIS in this is: 
Is the data "free" in the sense of freedom and liberty.
While the debate is not completely concluded what the concept of
freedom means to geo graphic data and maps, 
for now it seems practical to use something similiar like for software:
* You can use the data/maps (unlimited in time and area)
* You study/adapty -> which basically means you get it in a format
that is suitable to process it further. This needs further clarification.
* You can give it to others, by coyping.
* You can publish improved versions.

> Public data should be free, the earth is the place we all leave in,
> do we need to pay in order to get a "picture" of it ??

Well even on the internet you pay the bandwith, 
or on CD you would pay the material and copying costs.
Thus I would consider the four aspects above to be more important,
than the transport fees.

	Bernhard

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From cholmes at openplans.org  Tue May 10 12:15:27 2005
From: cholmes at openplans.org (Chris Holmes)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:15:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510100003.AC9E9101EE3@lists.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0505100605050.26394-100000@beta.openplans.org>

> Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
In theory there should be catalogs for discovery, but there just aren't.  
We had this same problem and started a wiki just to throw up services - 
though it's probably out of date by now: 
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOS/Available+WMS+and+WFS+servers

I'd recommend using Refraction's google catalog: 
http://www.refractions.net/ogcsurvey/  Note that it's also built in to 
udig (http://udig.refractions.net) as a plug-in, so you can browse and 
then connect with their viewer right away.

> Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
I think a first step would be a set of open source/creative commons type 
licenses for maps, so we could easily identify if they are 'free'.  The 
openstreetmap peaople (http://www.openstreetmap.org) have had a good bit 
of discussion about this on their list.  They currently use CC 
Attribution-ShareAlike.

best regards,

Chris




From strk at keybit.net  Tue May 10 13:07:57 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:07:57 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510095915.GL19432@intevation.de>
References: <20050510091038.56572.qmail@web31701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20050510094358.GG2508@keybit.net>
	<20050510095915.GL19432@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <20050510110757.GF7028@keybit.net>

On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:59:15AM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> Am 10. May 2005 um 11:43:58 schrieb strk:
> > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 02:10:38AM -0700, Brent Wood wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- strk <strk at keybit.net> wrote:
> 
> > > However, many of these are commercial sites, or use non OS
> > > server software. Not sure if this is the sort of thing you were
> > > after?
> > 
> > I don't care about server software being used, just looking
> > for 'libre' data access.
> 
> The question for FreeGIS in this is: 
> Is the data "free" in the sense of freedom and liberty.
> While the debate is not completely concluded what the concept of
> freedom means to geo graphic data and maps, 
> for now it seems practical to use something similiar like for software:
> * You can use the data/maps (unlimited in time and area)
> * You study/adapty -> which basically means you get it in a format
> that is suitable to process it further. This needs further clarification.

I didn't do much research on it, but isn't WFS a good start point
for further processing ?

> * You can give it to others, by coyping.
> * You can publish improved versions.
> 
> > Public data should be free, the earth is the place we all leave in,
> > do we need to pay in order to get a "picture" of it ??
> 
> Well even on the internet you pay the bandwith, 
> or on CD you would pay the material and copying costs.
> Thus I would consider the four aspects above to be more important,
> than the transport fees.
> 
> 	Bernhard

I agree, the 4 freedoms above are more important.
Service price is ok, as long as it is compatible with them.

Authenticated/priced WMS/WFS servers sound fair to me, as long as
the data downloaded from the services can then be freely redistributed
and inspected (WFS?) and improved. Does the INSPIRE directive says
anything in this direction ?

--strk;



From neteler at itc.it  Tue May 10 13:20:01 2005
From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:20:01 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>
References: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>
Message-ID: <20050510112001.GA31745@thuille.itc.it>

On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:41:47AM +0200, strk wrote:
> Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
> Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
> TIA
>

You may try this:

 http://geometa.info/search.jsp?query=type%3Awms

 -> 55 hits

Markus 



From jo at frot.org  Tue May 10 13:34:21 2005
From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 04:34:21 -0700
Subject: [Freegis-list] Canadian open geodata people?
Message-ID: <20050510113421.GC26418@vishnu.tridity.org>

hello,

it's been a while since http://freedata.ca/ dropped off the net and i
wonder whether anyone here knows anyone who was involved, or is
involved now in free geodata activism in Canada. I am super keen to
get in touch with such people in connection with the community
wireless network movement and grassroots LBS projects there.

Since the KPMG study there which vindicated a lot of the claims of the
freedata.ca members, fine statements were made on open geodata policy
by the Canadian government, but i don't hear of much appearing on the
ground, via WFS or anything. It would be great to claim a success
story on opening up geodata licensing, and what can get built.


-jo
  



From bernhard at intevation.de  Tue May 10 16:58:07 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:58:07 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: WMS services
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0505100605050.26394-100000@beta.openplans.org>
References: <20050510100003.AC9E9101EE3@lists.intevation.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0505100605050.26394-100000@beta.openplans.org>
Message-ID: <20050510145807.GQ3976@intevation.de>

Am 10. May 2005 um 06:15:27 schrieb Chris Holmes:
> > Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
> I think a first step would be a set of open source/creative commons type 
> licenses for maps, so we could easily identify if they are 'free'.  

Note that not all creative common licenses are in fact Free Software
(some say open source software), but you are right in that we would
need to identify what makes a map or geo data free first.
I tried to start in my other post.

So far the GNU LGPL and GNU GPL can be good also used for maps and data.

	Bernhard
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From pramsey at refractions.net  Wed May 11 00:04:48 2005
From: pramsey at refractions.net (Paul Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:04:48 -0700
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>
References: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>
Message-ID: <42813000.1060705@refractions.net>

http://www.refractions.net/ogcsurvey

strk wrote:

> Hello, is there a list of public WMS and WFS services around ?
> Would freegis.org add a section for it on the site ?
> TIA
> 
> --strk;
> 
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From udo.freegis at nova-sys.net  Wed May 11 10:16:58 2005
From: udo.freegis at nova-sys.net (Udo Giacomozzi)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:16:58 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Help for a novice
Message-ID: <1805807340.20050511101658@nova-sys.net>

Hello everybody,

I'm looking for a (possibly open source) solution to display maps on a
restricted Intranet web site. As we often work with Flash based
online applications I would prefer a solution that can produce Flash
(SWF) vector maps. I believe "UNM MapServer" fits pretty well in this
scheme (but I have never tried it).

Also I'm looking for map data for central Europe (at least Italy,
Germany, Austria, Switzerland). No problem if the data has to be buyed
or a service payed regularily for this, but it shouldn't cost too
much (TeleAtlas? Navtech?).

All this is needed for various live vehicle tracking applications.

I would be happy if someone could give me some advice on where to
begin, which solution to choose, which data supplier to recommend...



I'm afraid this has been asked often and I know that there are many
Internet resources available but that's a huge amount of information
and I failed finding an answer to my question.


Thanks a lot,
Udo



From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de  Wed May 11 20:55:19 2005
From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:55:19 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS services
In-Reply-To: <42813000.1060705@refractions.net>
References: <20050510084147.GE2508@keybit.net>
	<42813000.1060705@refractions.net>
Message-ID: <42825517.9020706@ccgis.de>

Paul Ramsey wrote:
> http://www.refractions.net/ogcsurvey

Thanks for that one.

This is a very late follow up on the OpenSDI catalog discussion. We have 
added a bunch of disparate WMS to the Mapbender Portal for testing. 
Doing it the hard way, no automatic harvesting, as everybody seems to 
have at least one ugly little glitch somewhere in the services.

Now one of the most wanted features expressed at the Mapbender user 
meeting last week was to comfortably add WMS (this oh-so-complicated OGC 
stuff drives people nuts :-).
This is far from being a hybernating object-mapper but the services can 
be loaded with two clicks (i know - thats still one too much!). Could 
still be good for some, please comment on this try:
http://www.mapbender.org

Open issues:
- Some WMS will not load due to strange (though technically correct) 
grouping (our fault)
- servers that boast too many layers (carol wms 1315 layers) explode web 
administration interfaces. The client eats it anyway, it just takes a 
minute or two...
- what to do about incompatible SRS? We want to keep it simple, if you 
pop up a message saying <SRS not supported> people will just be 
frustrated. -> First thing will be to add all new SRS as they are 
loaded. But you can't just switch without giving notice?!
- Some WMS will not load because a root layer doesn't have a name only a 
title (its in the spec but we use the name for handling - our fault)
- Navigating to a new service is difficult if you do not have a bbox in 
the corresponding SRS. Probably there is no way but to call a coordinate 
transformation service as the caps provide bboxes for WGS84 and the 
first following SRS only.

What we'll do next is address above problems and try out any WMS we can 
lay hands on. i am still pretty impressed at how very different OGC WMS 
specs can be interpreted. If you have or know of more WMS Capabilities 
please baffle us some more.

<rant>
Hopefully people will start to give apropriate names, titles and 
abstracts to their services. It is a big nuisance for any geo admin to 
find out what hides within a service titled "ESRI Inc. Map Server" 
abstracted as: "This is an OGC compliant MapService served By ESRI. The 
engine used to serve this MapService is ArcIMS". Who cares.
(not that we are any better, you find "WMS" with abstracts "blank" all 
over the place).
</rant>

Without any useful metadata we are lost.

Best,
Arnulf



From pcreso at pcreso.com  Fri May 13 02:46:04 2005
From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: Potential GIS software patent issue 
Message-ID: <20050513004604.24704.qmail@web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



A New Zealand software company (Compudigm International Ltd) is trying to
patent technologies core to the functioning of much GIS software.

See this link for background.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/print.cfm?objectid=3576578


A consortium of New Zeland companies (including GIS vendors and users) was
established to contest the application.

See this for more technical information about the patent application.
http://www.gisuser.co.nz/pages/download/getfile.asp?ID=111&filename=/Compudigm%92s%20patent%20application;%20opposition%20documents.zip

My grapevine tells me that the companies contesting the application have
received an offer from the CIL legal team to provide a legal protection from
the patent to these companies if they will stop contesting the patent.
 
I understand that some of the contesting companies have had legal advice
suggesting they accept the offer.
 
 
If granted, I believe it becomes possible that most Open Source statistical
and GIS packages could not be used in New Zealand without paying appropriate
royalties to CIL.

(I know this seems ridiculous, but have a look at patent law in New Zealand
before dismissing it out of hand. The NZ ESRI agent and others joined the
cosortium to contest the patent, and are providing funding, so they are
taking this as a very real threat) 
 
The NZOSS is currently more concerned about the Microsoft XML patent, and
does not really have any resources to help with the CIL one as well.
 
Is anyone in the FreeGIS community able to help or suggest ways to help
ensure this patent is NOT granted, or that all those contesting it are not
cheaply bought off?

 
Brent Wood




From sliwinski at uni-muenster.de  Tue May 17 11:30:43 2005
From: sliwinski at uni-muenster.de (Adam Sliwinski)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:30:43 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] =?iso-8859-1?q?52=B0North=27s_software_releases?=
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20050517111632.02d6a600@pop.uni-muenster.de>

Dear FreeGIS list,

the open source software initiative 52?North (http://www.52north.org) 
announces the release of their security services.

Stable release 1.0.0 provides implementations of the Web Authentication 
Service 1.0 (WAS) and Web Security Service 1.0 (WSS) Specifications. Please
note that the 1.0 thread will be not continued in the future due to the 
emerging new WAS and WSS specifications. No bugfixes or updates will be 
available.

The second release 1.1.0-devel01 is a development release (or "pre-alpha"), 
which basically offers the same functionality as 1.0.0. The main difference
is that the WSS is based on the Web Security Service 1.1 draft 
specification. A pre-version of this release was presented at the last OGC
TC meeting in Frascati, Italy, as part of the geoDRM Demonstrator. The 
upcoming 1.1.0 final release will contain a great number of additional 
features like pluggable authorization and authentication modules. 
Development releases will be announced irregularly as soon as a new feature 
is implemented.

Visit http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D122215 to 
download our source zip files (including an ant build script) for both 
releases.

Please direct all comments and inquiries to the mailing list of the 
52?North's Working Group Security 
http://www.52north.org/mailman/listinfo/security or instantly to Jan 
Drewnak (drewnak at 52north.org) who is the chair of this group.

Best regards,

-------------------------------------------------------
Adam Sliwinski
Institute for Geoinformatics
University of Muenster
Robert-Koch-Str. 26-28
48149 Muenster
Germany

e-mail: sliwinski at uni-muenster.de
www: http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de/~adamsli

Phone: +49-(0)-251-83 30103
Fax: +49-(0)-251-83 39763
Skype: adamsli

"Technology changes. Economic laws do not." (Shapiro & Varian 1999)





From jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca  Tue May 17 23:38:39 2005
From: jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:38:39 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] ka-Map: new open source project
Message-ID: <428A645F.4050007@dmsolutions.ca>

Hey all,

Here's the official word on a new project in the web mapping realm, i'll 
be requesting to have this added to freegis.org shortly:

jeff





ka-Map: new open source project
===============================

http://ka-Map.maptools.org/

DM Solutions Group is pleased to annouce the release of a new MapTools
open source project aimed at the growing interest in highly interactive,
javascript mapping applications based on MapServer.  Here are some
details ...

ka-Map provides many of the features that one should expect in a
state-of-the-art web-mapping application.

Features include:

* tile-based continuous panning

* no page reloading

* keymap, legend and scalebar

* zoom in/zoom out

* keyboard navigation

* sliding effects for panning on double click (ok, that one's for fun!)

We have also implemented some advanced features that are more in tune
with the MapServer community's needs:

* configuration can include multiple map files with different extents,
image formats, and scales for each map file.  Client side interface can
include the ability to change between map files

* ability to have layer visibility controls by drawing each GROUP as a
separate HTML layer on the client side

* ability to use HTML legend template to build more advanced layer controls

* flexible tile caching system

* separation of the javascript logic from the HTML page to provide an
API with which to build your applications

ka-Map is built on AJAX principles and uses the XmlHttpRequest object to
communicate with the server, providing a much more responsive user
interface.  The server side is implemented using PHP/MapScript (what
else!) but could easily be replaced with anything that would spit out
the equivalent javascript in response to the various requests.

ka-Map uses cached tiles generated on demand by drawing much larger map
images and slicing them up.  The caching mechanism is currently quite
simplistic and could not handle large data projects, but it is
definitely sufficient for getting started.  There are issues with this
kind of tile generation, but it is almost essential for performance
given the current state of the art.

ka-Map is aiming to be an API for developing mapping applications.  As
such, we are hoping it will be picked up by, and integrated into, some
of the other open source projects such as MapBender, ZMapServer,
GeoServer, and (of course) Chameleon.

The home of ka-Map is:

http://ka-Map.maptools.org

Downloads and CVS are not quite ready, but you can try out the interface
by visiting our first public site based on this technology (basic
features only in this one):

http://maps.dmsolutions.ca/

Subscribe to the user list to find out when downloads and CVS access are
available, and also to participate in the ongoing development and
testing of this new technology.

http://lists.maptools.org/mailman/listinfo/ka-map-users

We are hoping this project will engage the MapServer community's
interest and gain momentum from user contributions.  Please join up and
start contributing if you are interested in this technology!

Sincerely,

Paul
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
|Paul Spencer                           pspencer at dmsolutions.ca   |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
|Applications & Software Development                              |
|DM Solutions Group Inc                 http://www.dmsolutions.ca/|
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+





-- 
Jeff McKenna
DM Solutions Group Inc.
http://www.dmsolutions.ca



From blazek at itc.it  Wed May 18 09:38:21 2005
From: blazek at itc.it (Radim Blazek)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:38:21 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] ka-Map: new open source project
In-Reply-To: <428A645F.4050007@dmsolutions.ca>
References: <428A645F.4050007@dmsolutions.ca>
Message-ID: <428AF0ED.4080106@itc.it>

It looks nice,

questions:
- does it have some sort of support for digitization
- is it possible to draw vector features on top of the map,
   possibly dynamic (I mean using ka-Map's API)

Radim


Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Here's the official word on a new project in the web mapping realm, i'll 
> be requesting to have this added to freegis.org shortly:
> 
> jeff
> 
> 
> ka-Map: new open source project
> ===============================
> 
> http://ka-Map.maptools.org/
> 
> DM Solutions Group is pleased to annouce the release of a new MapTools
> open source project aimed at the growing interest in highly interactive,
> javascript mapping applications based on MapServer.  Here are some
> details ...
> 
> ka-Map provides many of the features that one should expect in a
> state-of-the-art web-mapping application.
> 
> Features include:
> 
> * tile-based continuous panning
> 
> * no page reloading
> 
> * keymap, legend and scalebar
> 
> * zoom in/zoom out
> 
> * keyboard navigation
> 
> * sliding effects for panning on double click (ok, that one's for fun!)
> 
> We have also implemented some advanced features that are more in tune
> with the MapServer community's needs:
> 
> * configuration can include multiple map files with different extents,
> image formats, and scales for each map file.  Client side interface can
> include the ability to change between map files
> 
> * ability to have layer visibility controls by drawing each GROUP as a
> separate HTML layer on the client side
> 
> * ability to use HTML legend template to build more advanced layer controls
> 
> * flexible tile caching system
> 
> * separation of the javascript logic from the HTML page to provide an
> API with which to build your applications
> 
> ka-Map is built on AJAX principles and uses the XmlHttpRequest object to
> communicate with the server, providing a much more responsive user
> interface.  The server side is implemented using PHP/MapScript (what
> else!) but could easily be replaced with anything that would spit out
> the equivalent javascript in response to the various requests.
> 
> ka-Map uses cached tiles generated on demand by drawing much larger map
> images and slicing them up.  The caching mechanism is currently quite
> simplistic and could not handle large data projects, but it is
> definitely sufficient for getting started.  There are issues with this
> kind of tile generation, but it is almost essential for performance
> given the current state of the art.
> 
> ka-Map is aiming to be an API for developing mapping applications.  As
> such, we are hoping it will be picked up by, and integrated into, some
> of the other open source projects such as MapBender, ZMapServer,
> GeoServer, and (of course) Chameleon.
> 
> The home of ka-Map is:
> 
> http://ka-Map.maptools.org
> 
> Downloads and CVS are not quite ready, but you can try out the interface
> by visiting our first public site based on this technology (basic
> features only in this one):
> 
> http://maps.dmsolutions.ca/
> 
> Subscribe to the user list to find out when downloads and CVS access are
> available, and also to participate in the ongoing development and
> testing of this new technology.
> 
> http://lists.maptools.org/mailman/listinfo/ka-map-users
> 
> We are hoping this project will engage the MapServer community's
> interest and gain momentum from user contributions.  Please join up and
> start contributing if you are interested in this technology!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Paul
> -- 
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> |Paul Spencer                           pspencer at dmsolutions.ca   |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> |Applications & Software Development                              |
> |DM Solutions Group Inc                 http://www.dmsolutions.ca/|
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From gbuday at gmail.com  Wed May 18 15:10:15 2005
From: gbuday at gmail.com (Gergely Buday)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:10:15 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] looking for free map software
Message-ID: <90d975d305051806101a29afa7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I would like to port a free map software (navigation + zooming at
least) with free maps onto a develboard. Which one do you recommend
for a Linux-based board with 64M flash + 64M RAM? It would be a demo
application of ours.

Cheers

- Gergely



From jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca  Wed May 18 16:03:23 2005
From: jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:03:23 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] ka-Map: new open source project
In-Reply-To: <428AF0ED.4080106@itc.it>
References: <428A645F.4050007@dmsolutions.ca> <428AF0ED.4080106@itc.it>
Message-ID: <428B4B2B.4000006@dmsolutions.ca>

Hi Radim,

We appreciate the complement.

There is no transaction support, but i suppose if you tie this in with 
something like geoserver it could be done.

There is some plans for a dynamic addition of points based on a client's 
search, however no plans yet for lines or polygon vectors.  We'd love 
some help with this if you're interested in contributing, as soon as the 
source code is made available...or you can file an enhancement bug in 
www.maptools.org/bugzilla using the ka-Map product and core component.

Thanks for your interest Radim.

jeff






Radim Blazek wrote:
> It looks nice,
> 
> questions:
> - does it have some sort of support for digitization
> - is it possible to draw vector features on top of the map,
>   possibly dynamic (I mean using ka-Map's API)
> 
> Radim
> 
> 
> Jeff McKenna wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Here's the official word on a new project in the web mapping realm, 
>> i'll be requesting to have this added to freegis.org shortly:
>>
>> jeff
>>
>>
>> ka-Map: new open source project
>> ===============================
>>
>> http://ka-Map.maptools.org/
>>
>> DM Solutions Group is pleased to annouce the release of a new MapTools
>> open source project aimed at the growing interest in highly interactive,
>> javascript mapping applications based on MapServer.  Here are some
>> details ...
>>
>> ka-Map provides many of the features that one should expect in a
>> state-of-the-art web-mapping application.
>>
>> Features include:
>>
>> * tile-based continuous panning
>>
>> * no page reloading
>>
>> * keymap, legend and scalebar
>>
>> * zoom in/zoom out
>>
>> * keyboard navigation
>>
>> * sliding effects for panning on double click (ok, that one's for fun!)
>>
>> We have also implemented some advanced features that are more in tune
>> with the MapServer community's needs:
>>
>> * configuration can include multiple map files with different extents,
>> image formats, and scales for each map file.  Client side interface can
>> include the ability to change between map files
>>
>> * ability to have layer visibility controls by drawing each GROUP as a
>> separate HTML layer on the client side
>>
>> * ability to use HTML legend template to build more advanced layer 
>> controls
>>
>> * flexible tile caching system
>>
>> * separation of the javascript logic from the HTML page to provide an
>> API with which to build your applications
>>
>> ka-Map is built on AJAX principles and uses the XmlHttpRequest object to
>> communicate with the server, providing a much more responsive user
>> interface.  The server side is implemented using PHP/MapScript (what
>> else!) but could easily be replaced with anything that would spit out
>> the equivalent javascript in response to the various requests.
>>
>> ka-Map uses cached tiles generated on demand by drawing much larger map
>> images and slicing them up.  The caching mechanism is currently quite
>> simplistic and could not handle large data projects, but it is
>> definitely sufficient for getting started.  There are issues with this
>> kind of tile generation, but it is almost essential for performance
>> given the current state of the art.
>>
>> ka-Map is aiming to be an API for developing mapping applications.  As
>> such, we are hoping it will be picked up by, and integrated into, some
>> of the other open source projects such as MapBender, ZMapServer,
>> GeoServer, and (of course) Chameleon.
>>
>> The home of ka-Map is:
>>
>> http://ka-Map.maptools.org
>>
>> Downloads and CVS are not quite ready, but you can try out the interface
>> by visiting our first public site based on this technology (basic
>> features only in this one):
>>
>> http://maps.dmsolutions.ca/
>>
>> Subscribe to the user list to find out when downloads and CVS access are
>> available, and also to participate in the ongoing development and
>> testing of this new technology.
>>
>> http://lists.maptools.org/mailman/listinfo/ka-map-users
>>
>> We are hoping this project will engage the MapServer community's
>> interest and gain momentum from user contributions.  Please join up and
>> start contributing if you are interested in this technology!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Paul
>> -- 
>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>> |Paul Spencer                           pspencer at dmsolutions.ca   |
>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>> |Applications & Software Development                              |
>> |DM Solutions Group Inc                 http://www.dmsolutions.ca/|
>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Freegis-list mailing list
> Freegis-list at intevation.de
> https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list
> 


-- 
Jeff McKenna
DM Solutions Group Inc.
http://www.dmsolutions.ca



From cholmes at openplans.org  Thu May 19 12:15:09 2005
From: cholmes at openplans.org (Chris Holmes)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 06:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] ka-Map: new open source project
In-Reply-To: <20050519100003.3E764101FD6@lists.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0505190609250.29963-100000@beta.openplans.org>

Two thoughts on this.  With GeoServer/WFS-T you'd have persistant addition 
of points.  Mapbuilder is a javascript toolkit that supports WFS-T inserts 
and editing (and I'm hoping that ka-map and them can get some good 
collaborations going).  

If you want dynamic addition of points we're looking to the next vesion of 
the SLD spec (1.1) that is being worked on.  It will have support for 
'in-line features', that is you include the feature to be rendered in your 
WMS request.  I would recommend that standards based approach (though it 
is as yet an unfinished standard), even if the ka-map api isn't quite 
standard.

Chris


> Hi Radim,

> We appreciate the complement.

> There is no transaction support, but i suppose if you tie this in with
> something like geoserver it could be done.

> There is some plans for a dynamic addition of points based on a client's
> search, however no plans yet for lines or polygon vectors.  We'd love
> some help with this if you're interested in contributing, as soon as the
> source code is made available...or you can file an enhancement bug in
> www.maptools.org/bugzilla using the ka-Map product and core component.

> Thanks for your interest Radim.

> jeff



> Radim Blazek wrote:
>> It looks nice,
>>
>> questions:
>> - does it have some sort of support for digitization
>> - is it possible to draw vector features on top of the map,
>>   possibly dynamic (I mean using ka-Map's API)
>>
>> Radim
>>



From cavallini at faunalia.it  Thu May 19 19:03:45 2005
From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:03:45 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] innovation
Message-ID: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>

Hi all.
I have to attend a meeting (Italian national level) and I have been requested 
to tell in about 4 minutes, what the short-term (2005-2006) technological 
progress in the gis sector will be. Of course I'll try to show what freegis 
can do, and I believe qgis-grass integration will be a +.
At the same table there'll be esri, intergraph, mapinfo etc, so I definitely 
need a hand.
Any suggestions?
All the best.
pc
-- 
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From cavallini at faunalia.it  Thu May 19 19:18:51 2005
From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:18:51 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] innovation
In-Reply-To: <e01a5a00505191014668ef772@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>
	<e01a5a00505191014668ef772@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200505191918.52524.cavallini@faunalia.it>

agreed - these are among the strongest points in GFOSS. but does anybody knows 
of any realistic technological target that will be achieved in the next 1-1.5 
years?
pc

At 19:14, gioved? 19 maggio 2005, Jeffrey Johnson has probably written:
> One term Web Mapping! and two URLs for you maptools.org and
> dmsolutions.ca. These guys are driving the progress in the
> non-corporate arena.
>
> Jeff
-- 
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From strk at keybit.net  Thu May 19 19:22:49 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:49 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] innovation
In-Reply-To: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <20050519172249.GA6905@keybit.net>

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 07:03:45PM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all.
> I have to attend a meeting (Italian national level) and I have been requested 
> to tell in about 4 minutes, what the short-term (2005-2006) technological 
> progress in the gis sector will be. Of course I'll try to show what freegis 
> can do, and I believe qgis-grass integration will be a +.
> At the same table there'll be esri, intergraph, mapinfo etc, so I definitely 
> need a hand.
> Any suggestions?

I don't think freegis needs to advertise itself to the industry.
Why should it ? We know it works. We know progress will be driven
by users. They should learn the method rather then exploit the
results.

It's them needing an hand, not you.
4 minutes can be spent talking about why software should be free.

--strk;


> All the best.
> pc
> -- 
> Paolo Cavallini
> cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
> Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From jan at intevation.de  Fri May 20 11:11:01 2005
From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:11:01 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] innovation
In-Reply-To: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200505191903.46652.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <20050520091101.GA15574@intevation.de>

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 07:03:45PM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> I have to attend a meeting (Italian national level) and I have been requested 
> to tell in about 4 minutes, what the short-term (2005-2006) technological 
> progress in the gis sector will be. Of course I'll try to show what freegis 
> can do, and I believe qgis-grass integration will be a +.
> At the same table there'll be esri, intergraph, mapinfo etc, so I definitely 
> need a hand.
> Any suggestions?

FreeGIS is not really a product. It is  a project that want to connect
the people working on and working with Free GIS Software.

Perhaps it is a good idea to speak about the dynamics in the
Free GIS Software arena. These dynamics are very promising
in terms of further integration/combination of existing
products. qgis/grass is just one example.

The second dynamics woth tpo mention is the emerging
businesses around Free GIS Software products. There is
an increasing number professional services available.

Best

	Jan

-- 
Jan-Oliver Wagner               http://intevation.de/~jan/
Intevation GmbH                      http://intevation.de/
Kolab Konsortium               http://kolab-konsortium.de/
FreeGIS                                http://freegis.org/



From pjm at kriso.re.kr  Fri May 20 10:59:58 2005
From: pjm at kriso.re.kr (=?ks_c_5601-1987?B?udrBvrnO?=)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:59:58 +0900
Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation
Message-ID: <001c01c55d1a$4c716580$0e4d67d2@kashtin>

Hi all,

Does anybody know where I could find a OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW) compliant registry implementation, whether commercial or not?

Thanks for any comment or references.

kashtin
pjm at kriso.re.kr

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From mueller at lat-lon.de  Fri May 20 12:46:56 2005
From: mueller at lat-lon.de (=?iso-8859-15?Q?Markus_M=FCller?=)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:46:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation
In-Reply-To: <001c01c55d1a$4c716580$0e4d67d2@kashtin>
References: <001c01c55d1a$4c716580$0e4d67d2@kashtin>
Message-ID: <65381.141.91.240.143.1116586016.squirrel@mail.lat-lon.de>

Hi,

deegree (http://www.deegree.org) comprises a free OGC catalogue service
(CSW) that is developed as part of the OGC compliance testing program.So far only code in the cvs is available, in a few weeks a downloadable
package including detailed documentation will be available.

cheers

Markus

>>>> ??????>>>>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anybody know where I could find a OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW)
> compliant registry implementation, whether commercial or not?

> Thanks for any comment or references.
>
> kashtin
> pjm at kriso.re.kr
>


-- 
Dr. Markus M?ller
l a t / l o n  GmbH (Hamburg)
Gluckstr. 53a			22081 Hamburg, Germany
phone ++49 +177 2470742		fax ++49 +228 18496-29
http://www.lat-lon.de		http://www.deegree.org




From pjm at kriso.re.kr  Sat May 21 05:59:40 2005
From: pjm at kriso.re.kr (???)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 12:59:40 +0900
Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation
References: <001f01c55d2e$ccdfe070$6402a8c0@NOMADA1>
Message-ID: <008301c55db9$83ecbbf0$9d9572de@KASHTIN4>

Dear Saiudos,

Thanks for your advice.
Do you think that in practically what level of interoperability we could expect among diffrent profiles of CSW?

regards,
kashtin
pjm at kriso.re.kr


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: michael gould 
  To: '??????' ; freegis-list at intevation.de 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:26 PM
  Subject: RE: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation


  Kashtin,  there are several solutions available (see also Galdos, Ionic, con-terra.), but beware that "OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW)" is a wide-open .dare I say chaotic.field, with several differing implementations, profiles, information models, etc. appearing on the market.



  Saludos,



  M Gould





  -----Mensaje original-----
  De: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] En nombre de ??????
  Enviado el: viernes, 20 de mayo de 2005 11:00
  Para: freegis-list at intevation.de
  Asunto: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation



  Hi all,



  Does anybody know where I could find a OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW) compliant registry implementation, whether commercial or not?



  Thanks for any comment or references.



  kashtin

  pjm at kriso.re.kr




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From gould at lsi.uji.es  Fri May 20 13:26:41 2005
From: gould at lsi.uji.es (michael gould)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:26:41 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation
In-Reply-To: <001c01c55d1a$4c716580$0e4d67d2@kashtin>
Message-ID: <001f01c55d2e$ccdfe070$6402a8c0@NOMADA1>

Kashtin,  there are several solutions available (see also Galdos, Ionic,
con-terra
), but beware that ?OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW)? is a wide-open

dare I say chaotic
field, with several differing implementations, profiles,
information models, etc. appearing on the market.

 

Saludos,

 

M Gould

 

 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de
[mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] En nombre de ??????
Enviado el: viernes, 20 de mayo de 2005 11:00
Para: freegis-list at intevation.de
Asunto: [Freegis-list] OGC Catalog service 2.0 implementation

 

Hi all,

 

Does anybody know where I could find a OGC catalog service 2.0(CSW)
compliant registry implementation, whether commercial or not?

 

Thanks for any comment or references.

 

kashtin

pjm at kriso.re.kr

 

 

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From Thierry.Badard at scg.ulaval.ca  Wed May 25 11:33:17 2005
From: Thierry.Badard at scg.ulaval.ca (Thierry Badard)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 05:33:17 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] GeOxygene 1.0 disponible - GeOxygene 1.0 released !!!
Message-ID: <4294465D.2050301@scg.ulaval.ca>

Sorry for cross-posting ! English version follows ...

Apr?s deux ann?es de d?veloppement, de test et de correction de bogues, 
la version 1.0 de GeOxygene est disponible : 
http://oxygene-project.sourceforge.net .

GeOxygene vise ? fournir un cadre ouvert de d?veloppement, compatible 
avec les sp?cifications ?dict?es par l'Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) 
et l'ISO, pour la conception et le d?ploiement d'applications s'appuyant 
sur des donn?es g?ographiques (SIG). Il s'agit d'une contribution "open 
source" du laboratoire COGIT (http://recherche.ign.fr) de l'IGN 
(Institut G?ographique National, http://www.ign.fr). GeOxygene est 
diffus? selon les termes de la licence LGPL (GNU Lesser General Public 
License).

GeOxygene est bas? sur Java et les technologies open source. Il met ? 
disposition des utilisateurs un mod?le de donn?es objet et extensible 
(permettant la mod?lisation des objets g?ographiques, de la g?om?trie, 
de la topologie et des m?ta-donn?es) compatible avec les sp?cifications 
de l'OGC et les standards de l'ISO concernant l'information 
g?ographique. Il est pr?vu dans un futur proche que GeOxygene impl?mente 
les interfaces Java d?velopp?es par le projet GeoAPI 
(http://geoapi.sourceforge.net).

Les donn?es sont stock?es dans un SGBD relationnel pour permettre un 
acc?s rapide et s?r au syst?me. N?anmoins, les utilisateurs n'ont pas ? 
manipuler les donn?es au travers de SQL : Ils mod?lisent leurs 
applications en UML et les codent en Java. Le "mapping" entre les 
environnements objet et relationnel est assur? par un composant open 
source, OJB. Les fichiers de "mapping" pour le stockage flexible des 
objets g?ographiques dans Oracle et PostGIS sont fournis.

En esp?rant que vous prendrez plaisir ? utiliser GeOxygene.

Thierry Badard et Arnaud Braun
Administrateurs de GeOxygene

et Anne Ruas
Chef du laboratoire COGIT

----------

After two years of development, testing and debug, version 1.0 of 
GeOxygene is released, see: http://oxygene-project.sourceforge.net .

GeOxygene aims at providing an open framework compliant with Open 
Geospatial Consortium (OGC)/ISO specifications for the development and 
deployment of geographic (GIS) applications. It is a open source 
contribution of the COGIT laboratory (http://recherche.ign.fr) at the 
IGN (Institut G?ographique National, http://www.ign.fr), the French 
National Mapping Agency. It is released under the terms of the LGPL (GNU 
Lesser General Public License) license.

GeOxygene is based on Java and open source technologies and provides 
users with an extensible object data model (geographic features, 
geometry, topology and metadata) compliant with OGC specifications and 
ISO standards in the geographic information domain. The support of the 
Java interfaces developped by the open source GeoAPI project 
(http://geoapi.sourceforge.net) is planned in a near future.

Data are stored in a relational DBMS (RDBMS) to ensure a rapid and 
reliable access to the system but users do not have to worry about any 
SQL statements: they model their applications in UML and code in Java. 
Mapping between object and relational environments is performed with 
open source software. At present, OJB is supported and the mapping files 
for the storage of geographic information in Oracle or PostGIS are 
provided to users.

Hoping you will enjoy using GeOxygene.

Thierry Badard and Arnaud Braun
GeOxygene administrators

and Anne Ruas
Chief of the COGIT lab.

-- 
Dr. Thierry Badard.
____________________________________________________________

Professeur au D?partement des sciences g?omatiques
Chercheur r?gulier au Centre de Recherche en G?omatique
Chercheur r?gulier du R?seau de Centres d'Excellence GEOIDE

Universit? Laval
Pavillon Louis-Jacques Casault, local 1343
Qu?bec, Qc, G1K 7P4 Canada

T?l.: (418) 656-7116 - Fax: (418) 656-7411
Courriel : Thierry.Badard at scg.ulaval.ca
Web: http://www.scg.ulaval.ca
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From cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu  Thu May 26 03:33:05 2005
From: cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu (Christopher Jon Jursa)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] any free data for georeferencing/geocoding?
Message-ID: <GBEMLFFCFKANEMNMLHNHGEIICEAA.cjursa@mail.sis.pitt.edu>

Hello,

This may sound like a vague question but I need to make a small tutorial on
georeferencing or geocoding free demographic data.  I was recommended
geographynetwork.com.

However, much of the data on the site is either not free or is already in
shapefile format (geocoded/georeferenced).

I am looking for some ASCII data that I can reference with TIGER data.

I need to do this with ArcGIS 9.0 Desktop (no ArcInfo Workstation).

Does anyone have any recommendations about what data would be approprate for
a geocoding or georeferencing tutorial in ArcGIS 9.0 desktop?

Sincerely,

Christopher Jon Jursa
Geoinformatics Laboratory
School of Information Sciences
University of Pittsburgh
Email: cjursa at sis.pitt.edu
Web: http://gis.sis.pitt.edu



From cavallini at faunalia.it  Mon May 30 08:06:45 2005
From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:06:45 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] gis meeting
Message-ID: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>

Hi all.
Last thursday I had a public meeting with major GIS players in Italy (esri, 
intergraph, autodesk, etc). It was a bit hard, but I consider it a success: 
all admitted that "open source" software will increase in the near future, 
and that its presence is a positive one.
A funny note: esri tried to say that they offer "guarantee" for their 
products, but the public easily pointed out this is not true.
In the afternoon, we had a more technical workshop that was well attended; the 
potential of qgis, grass, maopserver etc was shown.
All the best.
pc
-- 
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From f.badet at free.fr  Mon May 30 10:28:46 2005
From: f.badet at free.fr (Francois Badet)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:28:46 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] gis meeting
In-Reply-To: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <429ACEBE.7060605@free.fr>

Hi Paolo,

It looks like a very interesting experience to have on the one hand the 
major GIS players and to demonstrate on the other hand the technical 
capabilities of available Open Source solutions.

In your opinion what do the major GIS players mean when they say that 
the presence (and expected increase) of Open Source is positive ? Do 
they see some opportunities for their business ? Don't they see some 
clear threats for their current business model ?

Also, you mention that Esri claims to offer "guarantee" but that the 
public pointed out that it is not true. I would be interested to know 
what the public did say. I suspect that some participant mentioned some 
difficulties in their  customer-provider relationnship with Esri. Am I 
wrong ?

Best regards,

Francois Badet
f.badet at free.fr
+33 6 33 69 36 83



Paolo Cavallini wrote:

>Hi all.
>Last thursday I had a public meeting with major GIS players in Italy (esri, 
>intergraph, autodesk, etc). It was a bit hard, but I consider it a success: 
>all admitted that "open source" software will increase in the near future, 
>and that its presence is a positive one.
>A funny note: esri tried to say that they offer "guarantee" for their 
>products, but the public easily pointed out this is not true.
>In the afternoon, we had a more technical workshop that was well attended; the 
>potential of qgis, grass, maopserver etc was shown.
>All the best.
>pc
>  
>



From jrbtech at gmail.com  Mon May 30 15:21:25 2005
From: jrbtech at gmail.com (JRB Technology)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:21:25 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] gis meeting
In-Reply-To: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <e14c93a1050530062136c31ea3@mail.gmail.com>

Wow thats great news. We ( usa gis community ) need to do the same
here in the US. At least raise awareness thatthe open source GIS
software is ready. Glad to see you pushing open source in Italy.

-Jim

http://www.gisforums.com/


On 5/30/05, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
> Hi all.
> Last thursday I had a public meeting with major GIS players in Italy (esri,
> intergraph, autodesk, etc). It was a bit hard, but I consider it a success:
> all admitted that "open source" software will increase in the near future,
> and that its presence is a positive one.
> A funny note: esri tried to say that they offer "guarantee" for their
> products, but the public easily pointed out this is not true.
> In the afternoon, we had a more technical workshop that was well attended; the
> potential of qgis, grass, maopserver etc was shown.
> All the best.
> pc
> --
> Paolo Cavallini
> cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
> Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Freegis-list mailing list
> Freegis-list at intevation.de
> https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list
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From cavallini at faunalia.it  Tue May 31 08:29:01 2005
From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:29:01 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] gis meeting
In-Reply-To: <429ACEBE.7060605@free.fr>
References: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
	<429ACEBE.7060605@free.fr>
Message-ID: <200505310829.02539.cavallini@faunalia.it>

At 10:28, luned? 30 maggio 2005, Francois Badet has probably written:
> Hi Paolo,
>
> It looks like a very interesting experience to have on the one hand the
> major GIS players and to demonstrate on the other hand the technical
> capabilities of available Open Source solutions.
>
> In your opinion what do the major GIS players mean when they say that
> the presence (and expected increase) of Open Source is positive ? Do
> they see some opportunities for their business ? Don't they see some
> clear threats for their current business model ?

I think they just had to admit it. It does not seem they are embracing GFOSS 
in any way.

> Also, you mention that Esri claims to offer "guarantee" but that the
> public pointed out that it is not true. I would be interested to know
> what the public did say. I suspect that some participant mentioned some
> difficulties in their  customer-provider relationnship with Esri. Am I
> wrong ?
The public asked whether esri guarantee that the software is bug-free, and 
whether they are liable for any data loss. Of course esri had to admit their 
"guarantee" is only in VERY general terms (a large company will make a better 
product, and will remain forever). Overall, not very convincing for the 
general public, I think.

All the best.
pc
-- 
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From dcalvelo at minag.gob.pe  Tue May 31 20:22:08 2005
From: dcalvelo at minag.gob.pe (Daniel Calvelo Aros)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:22:08 -0500
Subject: [Freegis-list] gis meeting
In-Reply-To: <200505310829.02539.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200505300806.47083.cavallini@faunalia.it>
	<429ACEBE.7060605@free.fr>
	<200505310829.02539.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <20050531181334.M68724@minag.gob.pe>

From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:29:01 +0200
>
> At 10:28, luned? 30 maggio 2005, Francois Badet has probably written:
> > Hi Paolo,
> >
> > It looks like a very interesting experience to have on the one hand the
> > major GIS players and to demonstrate on the other hand the technical
> > capabilities of available Open Source solutions.
> >
> > In your opinion what do the major GIS players mean when they say that
> > the presence (and expected increase) of Open Source is positive ? Do
> > they see some opportunities for their business ? Don't they see some
> > clear threats for their current business model ?
> 
> I think they just had to admit it. It does not seem they are 
> embracing GFOSS in any way.

What was in your opinion their general attitude? 

I know it's a question bordering stupidity, but I's like to get some sense of
what goes on in GFOSS. Not *within* GFOSS, of course, that's what we are doing
here. I'd like to have a feel about what does the GIS world "say" currently
about FOSS. And that discourse is led mainly by commercial GISmakers.

In server and desktop computing, the respective positions of FOSS and
propietary offerings are quite clear, IMHO. But I have no idea what kind of
discourses the propietary GIS makers have about GFOSS, or FOSS for that
matter, other the obvious facts: there is no commmercial major GIS for linux;
ESRI dropped UNIX completely; interoperation between propietary GIS is done
through files mostly. And yet, there is a contributing user base (for ESRI at
least, is it so with mapinfo?) with which they could have stronger bonds.

On another note, was there any final note on continuing the debate on some
public forum, mailing list, private list, anything pointing to further planned
debate? Any plans of doing so?

Daniel.



From editor at gisuser.com  Wed May 25 20:00:44 2005
From: editor at gisuser.com (GISuser.com - Glenn)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:00:44 -0000
Subject: [Freegis-list] GeOxygene 1.0 disponible - GeOxygene 1.0 released
	!!!
In-Reply-To: <4294465D.2050301@scg.ulaval.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c56153$a5762390$0302a8c0@SPATIALGRAPHIC>

Thanks for the info Thierry, very nice work!

FYI, we've taken the liberty of adding some brief details and a pointer
to your project from our extensive directory of Free/Open Source GIS
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project along with many others.

Please feel free to send along future suggested additions

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de 
> [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of 
> Thierry Badard
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 AM
> To: geomatique at georezo.net; APPLIED-GIS-RS at LISTES.ULAVAL.CA; 
> bull_i3 at univ-tln.fr; cartonet_dev at georezo.net; 
> dbworld at cs.wisc.edu; freegis-list at intevation.de; 
> sig_quebec at georezo.net; cassini at lirmm.fr; gazettebd3 at imag.fr
> Subject: [Freegis-list] GeOxygene 1.0 disponible - GeOxygene 
> 1.0 released !!!
> 
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting ! English version follows ...
> 
> Apr?s deux ann?es de d?veloppement, de test et de correction 
> de bogues, 
> la version 1.0 de GeOxygene est disponible : 
> http://oxygene-project.sourceforge.net .
> 
> GeOxygene vise ? fournir un cadre ouvert de d?veloppement, compatible 
> avec les sp?cifications ?dict?es par l'Open Geospatial 
> Consortium (OGC) 
> et l'ISO, pour la conception et le d?ploiement d'applications 
> s'appuyant 
> sur des donn?es g?ographiques (SIG). Il s'agit d'une 
> contribution "open 
> source" du laboratoire COGIT (http://recherche.ign.fr) de l'IGN 
> (Institut G?ographique National, http://www.ign.fr). GeOxygene est 
> diffus? selon les termes de la licence LGPL (GNU Lesser 
> General Public 
> License).
> 
> GeOxygene est bas? sur Java et les technologies open source. Il met ? 
> disposition des utilisateurs un mod?le de donn?es objet et extensible 
> (permettant la mod?lisation des objets g?ographiques, de la 
> g?om?trie, 
> de la topologie et des m?ta-donn?es) compatible avec les 
> sp?cifications 
> de l'OGC et les standards de l'ISO concernant l'information 
> g?ographique. Il est pr?vu dans un futur proche que GeOxygene 
> impl?mente 
> les interfaces Java d?velopp?es par le projet GeoAPI 
> (http://geoapi.sourceforge.net).
> 
> Les donn?es sont stock?es dans un SGBD relationnel pour permettre un 
> acc?s rapide et s?r au syst?me. N?anmoins, les utilisateurs 
> n'ont pas ? 
> manipuler les donn?es au travers de SQL : Ils mod?lisent leurs 
> applications en UML et les codent en Java. Le "mapping" entre les 
> environnements objet et relationnel est assur? par un composant open 
> source, OJB. Les fichiers de "mapping" pour le stockage flexible des 
> objets g?ographiques dans Oracle et PostGIS sont fournis.
> 
> En esp?rant que vous prendrez plaisir ? utiliser GeOxygene.
> 
> Thierry Badard et Arnaud Braun
> Administrateurs de GeOxygene
> 
> et Anne Ruas
> Chef du laboratoire COGIT
> 
> ----------
> 
> After two years of development, testing and debug, version 1.0 of 
> GeOxygene is released, see: http://oxygene-project.sourceforge.net .
> 
> GeOxygene aims at providing an open framework compliant with Open 
> Geospatial Consortium (OGC)/ISO specifications for the 
> development and 
> deployment of geographic (GIS) applications. It is a open source 
> contribution of the COGIT laboratory (http://recherche.ign.fr) at the 
> IGN (Institut G?ographique National, http://www.ign.fr), the French 
> National Mapping Agency. It is released under the terms of 
> the LGPL (GNU 
> Lesser General Public License) license.
> 
> GeOxygene is based on Java and open source technologies and provides 
> users with an extensible object data model (geographic features, 
> geometry, topology and metadata) compliant with OGC 
> specifications and 
> ISO standards in the geographic information domain. The 
> support of the 
> Java interfaces developped by the open source GeoAPI project 
> (http://geoapi.sourceforge.net) is planned in a near future.
> 
> Data are stored in a relational DBMS (RDBMS) to ensure a rapid and 
> reliable access to the system but users do not have to worry 
> about any 
> SQL statements: they model their applications in UML and code 
> in Java. 
> Mapping between object and relational environments is performed with 
> open source software. At present, OJB is supported and the 
> mapping files 
> for the storage of geographic information in Oracle or PostGIS are 
> provided to users.
> 
> Hoping you will enjoy using GeOxygene.
> 
> Thierry Badard and Arnaud Braun
> GeOxygene administrators
> 
> and Anne Ruas
> Chief of the COGIT lab.
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Thierry Badard. 
> ____________________________________________________________
> 
> Professeur au D?partement des sciences g?omatiques
> Chercheur r?gulier au Centre de Recherche en G?omatique 
> Chercheur r?gulier du R?seau de Centres d'Excellence GEOIDE
> 
> Universit? Laval
> Pavillon Louis-Jacques Casault, local 1343
> Qu?bec, Qc, G1K 7P4 Canada
> 
> T?l.: (418) 656-7116 - Fax: (418) 656-7411
> Courriel : Thierry.Badard at scg.ulaval.ca
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