From gis at patswrapper.com  Sat Apr  2 12:18:44 2005
From: gis at patswrapper.com (Mike Diplock)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:18:44 +0100
Subject: [Freegis-list] Fw: Viewing GIS In Web
Message-ID: <000e01c5376d$59e99390$0100a8c0@MikeNew>

>>Is there a(php or Perl or CGI) Code for just viewing any kind of GIS 
>>vector and raster files without the need for web mapping server
>>Thanks pro

I have developed a PHP/GD shape file renderer that will display '.SHP' 
vector files without needing a web mapping server. It does not support 
raster files yet. You can view demo and download at 
http://www.patswrapper.com/GIS/

Mike 



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From bernhard at intevation.de  Sat Apr  2 15:38:15 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:38:15 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Tool for OpenEV Beta release
In-Reply-To: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
References: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>

Am 24. Mar 2005 um 22:41:17 schrieb Mario Beauchamp:
> This is to announce the release of my (long awaited!) WMS Tool for OpenEV.
> All the infos are here:
> http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/wmstool/home.htm

Do you think this is worth its own entry in FreeGIS or will it be
easily found from the Open EV pages?

> This is a beta version as it still needs to be thoroughly tested before any 
> "official" release can happen...
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From fwarmerdam at gmail.com  Sat Apr  2 20:18:07 2005
From: fwarmerdam at gmail.com (Frank Warmerdam)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:18:07 -0500
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Tool for OpenEV Beta release
In-Reply-To: <20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>
References: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
	<20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <931f8ea9050402101860d80859@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 2, 2005 8:38 AM, Bernhard Reiter <bernhard at intevation.de> wrote:
> Am 24. Mar 2005 um 22:41:17 schrieb Mario Beauchamp:
> > This is to announce the release of my (long awaited!) WMS Tool for OpenEV.
> > All the infos are here:
> > http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/wmstool/home.htm
> 
> Do you think this is worth its own entry in FreeGIS or will it be
> easily found from the Open EV pages?

Bernhard, 

I will add a link for both of Mario's new tools from the OpenEV
page.  

Best regards,
-- 
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
I set the clouds in motion - turn up   | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
and watch the world go round - Rush    | Geospatial Programmer for Rent



From fulton at cmu.edu  Sun Apr  3 19:20:14 2005
From: fulton at cmu.edu (Sean Fulton)
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:20:14 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: VMAP0/TIGER/SRTM30 data via BitTorrent
In-Reply-To: <931f8ea90503121422c6cbafe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <931f8ea90503121422c6cbafe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d2p8hc$dri$1@sea.gmane.org>

Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> A few of us have been thinking about use of the BitTorrent protocol 
> in the geospatial area.  Our conclusion is that it's greatest use is
> in distributing large public (free) geospatial datasets.  To that 
> end we have setup a modest experiment to see how useful and popular
> such a service might be.  
> 
> BitTorrent, for those not familiar with it, is a peer-to-peer file
> sharing protocol.  It's distinguishing factor is that the "server" can
> scale to handle large numbers of clients without a large increase in 
> bandwidth by virtue of forcing clients to trade parts of the downloaded
> files with each other rather than having to send a full copy of the file
> to all clients.
> 
> To test out the utility of BitTorrent in this field we have prepared and
> "seeded" a few fairly large, and reasonably popular datasets.  These include:
> 
>  o TIGER 2004fe: Full Tiger data for the full USA. 
>  o VMAP0: All 4 VMAP0 CDs - various vector data for the whole world. 
>  o SRTM30+: SRTM derived DEM data at 30 second postings plus Bathymetry data. 
> 
> The torrents can be found at:
> 
>   http://uo.space.frot.org/?GeodataTorrents
> 
> I welcome feedback, suggestions, additions, and even boos and hisses. 
> 
> Best regards,

This is very cool, by the way. However, the problem with Bittorrent is 
that it only to work well with popular files, i.e. files that with a lot 
of downloaders. I tried downloading the vmap0 data via those torrents 
and it was taking an excrutiatingly long time. I gave up and downloaded 
directly from NIMA.

Perhaps you could get a couple other sites to help seed(is that the 
right word?) the torrents?

	Sean



From fwarmerdam at gmail.com  Sun Apr  3 21:05:10 2005
From: fwarmerdam at gmail.com (Frank Warmerdam)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:05:10 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: VMAP0/TIGER/SRTM30 data via BitTorrent
In-Reply-To: <d2p8hc$dri$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <931f8ea90503121422c6cbafe@mail.gmail.com>
	<d2p8hc$dri$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <931f8ea9050403120557816de@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 3, 2005 1:20 PM, Sean Fulton <fulton at cmu.edu> wrote:
> This is very cool, by the way. However, the problem with Bittorrent is
> that it only to work well with popular files, i.e. files that with a lot
> of downloaders. I tried downloading the vmap0 data via those torrents
> and it was taking an excrutiatingly long time. I gave up and downloaded
> directly from NIMA.
> 
> Perhaps you could get a couple other sites to help seed(is that the
> right word?) the torrents?

Sean,

There are 3 seeds for the VMAP0 data, 2 for the tiger data, and
4 for the SRTM30+.  I doubt the problem is a lack of seeding.
However, there are definately performance aspects of BitTorrent
that I don't understand.  I have been getting terrible performance
via bittorrent at home since I switched to Cable instead of DSL.
But occationally it will pick right up to full speed, then it drops 
back to approximately 1KB/s. 

My geodatatorrents bittorrent server is limited to 100KB/s but
given the light loading and the other seeds, someone with
a good bittorrent client configuration should be able to pull stuff
down at 200-300 KB/s. 

However, your point about BitTorrent working best for popular
files is certainly true.  Downloads from of the torrents have
generally been just a matter of the seeds dumping to the 
"leeches" with very little peer-to-peer data sharing because we
so seldom have more than one or two leeches pulling data at a
time. 

All in all, the "geodatatorrent" experiment has been educational
but not terrible successful at distributing data efficiently.  I think it
might be more useful for big *new* datasets that might attract
alot of downloaders at the same time. 

Best regards,
-- 
---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
I set the clouds in motion - turn up   | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
and watch the world go round - Rush    | Geospatial Programmer for Rent



From fulton at cmu.edu  Mon Apr  4 02:03:53 2005
From: fulton at cmu.edu (Sean Fulton)
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:03:53 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: VMAP0/TIGER/SRTM30 data via BitTorrent
In-Reply-To: <931f8ea9050403120557816de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <931f8ea90503121422c6cbafe@mail.gmail.com>	<d2p8hc$dri$1@sea.gmane.org>
	<931f8ea9050403120557816de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d2q06c$vc$1@sea.gmane.org>

Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 1:20 PM, Sean Fulton <fulton at cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
>>This is very cool, by the way. However, the problem with Bittorrent is
>>that it only to work well with popular files, i.e. files that with a lot
>>of downloaders. I tried downloading the vmap0 data via those torrents
>>and it was taking an excrutiatingly long time. I gave up and downloaded
>>directly from NIMA.
>>
>>Perhaps you could get a couple other sites to help seed(is that the
>>right word?) the torrents?
> 
> 
> Sean,
> 
> There are 3 seeds for the VMAP0 data, 2 for the tiger data, and
> 4 for the SRTM30+.  I doubt the problem is a lack of seeding.
> However, there are definately performance aspects of BitTorrent
> that I don't understand.  I have been getting terrible performance
> via bittorrent at home since I switched to Cable instead of DSL.
> But occationally it will pick right up to full speed, then it drops 
> back to approximately 1KB/s. 

Frank,

I may have spoken too soon. I tried the vmap0 data shortly before your 
original e-mail (heard about it through mapping hacks) and the download 
speed was incredibly slow. I just now tried the TIGER data and I'm 
getting it as fast as I can take it. It's actually showing 3 seeds.

> My geodatatorrents bittorrent server is limited to 100KB/s but
> given the light loading and the other seeds, someone with
> a good bittorrent client configuration should be able to pull stuff
> down at 200-300 KB/s. 
> 
> However, your point about BitTorrent working best for popular
> files is certainly true.  Downloads from of the torrents have
> generally been just a matter of the seeds dumping to the 
> "leeches" with very little peer-to-peer data sharing because we
> so seldom have more than one or two leeches pulling data at a
> time. 
> 
> All in all, the "geodatatorrent" experiment has been educational
> but not terrible successful at distributing data efficiently.  I think it
> might be more useful for big *new* datasets that might attract
> alot of downloaders at the same time. 
> 
> Best regards,

Agreed. Also, I think it can be useful as sort of distributed mirror of 
data which is how it's behaving for me now.

I think it's a worthwhile effort. I'd like to see the GLCF and other 
clearinghouses, especially those distributing raster data, do something 
with bittorrent.

	Sean



From starged at videotron.ca  Mon Apr  4 20:35:27 2005
From: starged at videotron.ca (Mario Beauchamp)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Tool for OpenEV Beta release
In-Reply-To: <20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>
References: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
	<20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <425188EF.9090804@videotron.ca>

Hi Bernhard,

Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> Am 24. Mar 2005 um 22:41:17 schrieb Mario Beauchamp:
> 
>>This is to announce the release of my (long awaited!) WMS Tool for OpenEV.
>>All the infos are here:
>>http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/wmstool/home.htm
> 
> 
> Do you think this is worth its own entry in FreeGIS or will it be
> easily found from the Open EV pages?

First of all, I am flattered that it would deserve an entry in FreeGIS :)
As Frank told you, there is now a link on the OpenEV page. He also mentioned "both" tools: the 
other one is a histogram-based image enhancement tool which will also have its own help page.
Also, I understand that they will be part of the next FWTools release.

I am currently working on other tools and the links will eventually be grouped together on an 
index page.

Thank you for your interest.
--
Mario B.



From bernhard at intevation.de  Mon Apr  4 20:43:08 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:43:08 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Tool for OpenEV Beta release
In-Reply-To: <425188EF.9090804@videotron.ca>
References: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
	<20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de>
	<425188EF.9090804@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <20050404184308.GK13408@intevation.de>

Am  4. Apr 2005 um 14:35:27 schrieb Mario Beauchamp:
> Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> >Am 24. Mar 2005 um 22:41:17 schrieb Mario Beauchamp:
> >
> >>This is to announce the release of my (long awaited!) WMS Tool for OpenEV.
> >>All the infos are here:
> >>http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/wmstool/home.htm
> >
> >
> >Do you think this is worth its own entry in FreeGIS or will it be
> >easily found from the Open EV pages?
> 
> First of all, I am flattered that it would deserve an entry in FreeGIS :)

Well, we try to be comprehensive and need the suggestions of you all
to keep the categories and entries in good shape. ;)
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From starged at videotron.ca  Wed Apr  6 04:33:01 2005
From: starged at videotron.ca (Mario Beauchamp)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:33:01 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Tool for OpenEV Beta release
In-Reply-To: <20050404184308.GK13408@intevation.de>
References: <4243885D.4010202@videotron.ca>
	<20050402133815.GF8823@intevation.de> <425188EF.9090804@videotron.ca>
	<20050404184308.GK13408@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <42534A5D.3060909@videotron.ca>

Hi Bernhard,

Bernhard Reiter wrote:
>>First of all, I am flattered that it would deserve an entry in FreeGIS :)
> 
> 
> Well, we try to be comprehensive and need the suggestions of you all
> to keep the categories and entries in good shape. ;)

That's good :)

You guys have been doing a good job for a long time as the FreeGIS site was very helpful when I 
got into the GIS stuff 3 years ago.

So keep up the good work!
--
Mario B.



From superbla3000 at gmx.net  Wed Apr  6 22:36:48 2005
From: superbla3000 at gmx.net (joerg pfeiffer)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:36:48 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] free toscana data
Message-ID: <42544860.5020004@gmx.net>

hello,

I am searching free toscana shape / vector files. Where should I search 
first?

Joerg



From andy at megalithic.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 22:35:46 2005
From: andy at megalithic.co.uk (Andy Burnham)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:35:46 +0100
Subject: [Freegis-list] Another satisfied mapserver user
In-Reply-To: <smtpd.881.42521b7d.82480.4@mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu>
References: <smtpd.881.42521b7d.82480.4@mtaout-m.tc.umn.edu>
Message-ID: <425599A2.9050109@megalithic.co.uk>

Hello,

I've not posted before but I thought you'd like to know of another 
satisfied mapserver user (or very many if you include our web visitors). 
You'll be pleased to hear I managed to get it installed and running on 
my Linux box with only a minimum loss of hair, with the aid of the list 
archives

Announcing the new Megalith Map from the Megalithic Portal

   * The world's first interactive multi-country map of megalithic and 
other prehistoric sites
   * Covers the whole of Europe. Other areas are under construction
   * Over 10000 locations plotted and over 12000 photographs
   * Each monument listing approved by our team of editors
   * More than just megaliths. Also Pictish stones, Holy Wells, Ancient 
Crosses and other selected 'Dark Ages' sites
   * Around 1500 more French sites are on the way in the next few weeks
   * Created and supported entierely by amateur enthusiasts with no
government, lottery or other external funding
   * Choice of frames or no-frames
   * Pure HTML, running on our server. No nasty plug-ins required

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/mapserv

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
==================================================================
The Megalithic Portal
http://www.megalithic.co.uk
The huge ancient site database with maps, news, community features
"a wonderful guide" - the New York Times
"useful, fun, and accurate" - Archaeology Magazine
==================================================================
An independent web site funded totally by our Online Shop http://www.megalithic.co.uk/shop
==================================================================



From martin at vigerske.de  Fri Apr  8 09:54:18 2005
From: martin at vigerske.de (Martin Vigerske)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:54:18 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Isometric perspective
Message-ID: <d35d6s$9er$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hi,

I am working with GRASS and want to make a large picture of my area in 
an isometric perspective. But in NVIZ I can't shift the 
perspective-value beneath three, so there is always a perspective 
distortion, no real isometric.
Maybe outthere is an alternative software capable to make an 
high-resolution picture of altitude maps with texture - in isometric 
perspective.

Greetings,
Martin Vigerske



From jo at frot.org  Fri Apr  8 15:43:46 2005
From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 06:43:46 -0700
Subject: [Freegis-list] Announce: Forum on Open Geodata
Message-ID: <20050408134346.GA10703@vishnu.tridity.org>

A reminder, for those who have an interest in access to geographic
data and in open cartography projects, about the Open Knowledge Forum
on Open Geodata to be held in central London next Thursday evening. 


== Where and When ==
  * When: next Thursday April 14th 2005, 7-9pm
  * Where:  Stanhope Centre, Marble Arch, London.
  * [http://www.stanhopecentre.org/about/directions.shtml Directions]
  * Who can attend: public. Registration is optional but useful so
  * please notify us if you can via okforums-info at okfn.org.
  * Who is speaking:
   * Steve Coast ([http://openstreetmap.org openstreetmap])
   * Roger Longhorn ([http://i-dra.org geodata policy expert])
   * Giles Lane ([http://socialtapestries.net social tapestries])
   * Chris Lightfoot ([http://mysociety.org/] mysociety)
   * Gesche Schmid ([http://www.medway.gov.uk/maps/] medway)
   * Jo Walsh ([http://mappinghacks.com mapping hacks]) 
   

== Subject Matter ==

''One thing the projects in the civic information forum share, is a
dependency for spatial information in their service; even if that's as
simple as 'enter my postcode'...''

The Open Knowledge Forum on geo-data brings together those who wish to
use such data, for example in local government or at NGOs, with those
working to produce it (for example by creating free of copyright
maps).

The UK is one of the best-mapped surfaces on the planet, but our
national mapping resources are highly-priced and administered by a
semi-private company that acts as a monopoly based on Crown Copyright.

The Public Sector Information Directive emphasises the benefits and
importance of access to geographic information. But local governments
don't own the information they gather, and arguably millions are
wasted providing expensive "viewing" services which present pictures
of the data, instead of raw information.

This forum will be a discussion about different applications with a
civic society focus, such as participatory planning or problem
reporting, which could be initially built using free base maps and
geocoding facilities.

For more information please see:
  * http://www.okfn.org/geo/
  * http://okfn.org/wiki/OpenKnowledgeForums


The Open Knowledge Forums are organized by the Open Knowledge Foundation: 
http://www.openknowledgefoundation.org/



From cavallini at faunalia.it  Wed Apr 13 09:00:52 2005
From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:00:52 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] 3D shapefiles
Message-ID: <200504130900.53613.cavallini@faunalia.it>

Hi all.
Does anybody know whether it is possible to work (import-export) with 3D 
shapefiles, with gass or other free software?
Thanks.
pc
-- 
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953



From strk at keybit.net  Wed Apr 13 10:10:33 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:10:33 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] 3D shapefiles
In-Reply-To: <200504130900.53613.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200504130900.53613.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <20050413081033.GD16661@freek.keybit.net>

PostGIS is able to use every dimension of shapefile geometries.
http://postgis.refractions.net
--strk;

On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:00:52AM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all.
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to work (import-export) with 3D 
> shapefiles, with gass or other free software?
> Thanks.
> pc
> -- 
> Paolo Cavallini
> cavallini at faunalia.it   www.faunalia.it   www.faunalia.com
> Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy   Tel: (+39)348-3801953
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Freegis-list mailing list
> Freegis-list at intevation.de
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From neteler at itc.it  Wed Apr 13 18:16:15 2005
From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:16:15 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] 3D shapefiles
In-Reply-To: <200504130900.53613.cavallini@faunalia.it>
References: <200504130900.53613.cavallini@faunalia.it>
Message-ID: <20050413161615.GD6914@thuille.itc.it>

On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:00:52AM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all.
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to work (import-export) with 3D 
> shapefiles, with gass or other free software?

Funny - I tried the same yesterday.
Generally yes for GRASS 6:

Note: import into any location (e.g., Spearfish sample location)

################ 3D DXF/DWG example
#Example: 3D DXF from http://www.3dcafe.com/asp/architex.asp#DXF
v.in.dwg -z in=dxf/WATRTOWR.DXF out=watertower

v.info watertower
...
 |  Map is 3D:              1
 |            N: 584.584       S: -599.734    
 |            E: 579.789        W: -584.248  
 |            B: -1873.830        T: 594.000  
...

# -> unprojected DXF (use v.transform to geocode it)

g.region vect=watertower res=10 -pa

#take B (bottom) as minimum elevation:
r.mapcalc "plane=-1873.830"
r.colors plane col=gyr

#look at it:
nviz plane vect=watertower

#Result, something like this:
# http://mpa.itc.it/markus/grass60/nviz_watertower3D.png


#############

3D SHAPE: If PolygonZ is properly used it should
work as well (v.in.ogr). Currently I don't have
and true 3D SHAPE file to try.

Best

 Markus



From ari.jolma at hut.fi  Fri Apr 15 08:48:03 2005
From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:48:03 +0300
Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Geo::Shapelib
In-Reply-To: <4B8F50430DC6D611875E00508BE14DF215521334@pasmail.office.tmcs>
References: <4B8F50430DC6D611875E00508BE14DF215521334@pasmail.office.tmcs>
Message-ID: <425F63A3.7090607@hut.fi>

Emad Fanous wrote:

>Ari,
>
>Thanks for creating your module.  I just have 1 suggestion:
>It slurps everything into memory (push the shape records onto
>$self->{Shapes}) which, as you can imagine, isn't a good thing for a large
>file.  Perhaps handling this another way would be better.
>  
>

In fact there is a LoadAll (default is true) parameter for the 
constructor, which, if set to false, prevents this slurping.

I have not played with that feature a lot (can't even remember if it was 
my idea to put it there), maybe I have fast machines with lots of memory 
or my shapefiles are small (perhaps not really, currently I play with 
shapefiles of size ~25 MB) but I haven't had the need.

In the latest version I added R-trees (Perl-only solution, using 
Tree::R, which I made up) but they are too slow for files with many 
(>1000) shapes, so I started looking at the indexing in the C-code, 
which would mean not loading the data into Perl structures.

I haven't also been using Geo::Shapelib much myself until very recently. 
I made a GUI with Perl Gtk2 modules (called Gtk2::Ex::Geo and to be 
released soon -- there is a preliminary version with different name in 
libral.sf.net) which can load and show Geo::Raster and Geo::Shapelib 
objects and that has got me interested in Geo::Shapelib again.

One more thing. We need an email list for discussing Perl Geo::  and 
Geography:: modules (there is already a good selection of those). I hope 
you don't mind if I cc this to the freegis-list, which is the best 
existing list for this purpose I know, but not Perl-specific. Anybody 
have any ideas? Are there any Perl geeks on this list?

Cheers,

Ari

>Thanks
>Emad
>  
>



From juergen.mischker at boku.ac.at  Thu Apr 14 12:11:46 2005
From: juergen.mischker at boku.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Mischker?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:11:46 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Presenting GIS data
Message-ID: <s25e5e0d.073@gwdata.boku.ac.at>

I am looking for a way to present a GIS project in a way like the WMS style. I only need some basic functions like zoom, turn on/off layers. 
The criteria are that the everything should run from a CD under Win, so I need a pure client solution, without any installation process and big GIS knowledge.  
Does somebody has any experience doing that...

Cheers
J?rgen



From bernhard at intevation.de  Mon Apr 18 13:04:08 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:04:08 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Presenting GIS data
In-Reply-To: <s25e5e0d.073@gwdata.boku.ac.at>
References: <s25e5e0d.073@gwdata.boku.ac.at>
Message-ID: <20050418110408.GV16925@intevation.de>

Am 14. Apr 2005 um 12:11:46 schrieb J?rgen Mischker:
> I am looking for a way to present a GIS project in a way like the WMS style. I only need some basic functions like zoom, turn on/off layers. 
> The criteria are that the everything should run from a CD under Win, so I need a pure client solution, without any installation process and big GIS knowledge.  
> Does somebody has any experience doing that...

Yes, we at Intevation have done LIVE-CDs and CDs with software
that you can start right away.
We usually would use UMN Mapserver or Thuban to implement such a solution.

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From jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca  Mon Apr 18 16:44:47 2005
From: jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:44:47 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Presenting GIS data
In-Reply-To: <s25e5e0d.073@gwdata.boku.ac.at>
References: <s25e5e0d.073@gwdata.boku.ac.at>
Message-ID: <4263C7DF.5090202@dmsolutions.ca>

Take a look at GIS-Knoppix live CD: 
http://www.sourcepole.com/sources/software/gis-knoppix/index.xml.

jeff




J?rgen Mischker wrote:
> I am looking for a way to present a GIS project in a way like the WMS style. I only need some basic functions like zoom, turn on/off layers. 
> The criteria are that the everything should run from a CD under Win, so I need a pure client solution, without any installation process and big GIS knowledge.  
> Does somebody has any experience doing that...
> 
> Cheers
> J?rgen
> 


-- 
Jeff McKenna
DM Solutions Group Inc.
http://www.dmsolutions.ca



From pcreso at pcreso.com  Mon Apr 18 20:17:08 2005
From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] Presenting GIS data
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050418181708.55566.qmail@web31703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



> Jürgen Mischker wrote:
> I am looking for a way to present a GIS project in a way like the WMS
> style. I only need some basic functions like zoom, turn on/off layers. 
> The criteria are that the everything should run from a CD under Win, so I
> need a pure client solution, without any installation process and big GIS
> knowledge.  
>
> Does somebody has any experience doing that...


I have built a LiveCD with over 1Gb of shapefiles & geotiffs as data, & using
QGIS as the GIS viewing tool.

As a Live CD it doesn't run under Windows, but you boot the PC off the CD
itself, so it is totally self contained. GIS-Knoppix & the AIT STAR CD are two
other good examples.

I used PCLinuxOS as the enabling Linux distro, steps are:

boot off the PCLinuxOS LiveCD
click the "install to hard drive" icon & install wit a 2Gb root partition & 2Gb

swap



From pcreso at pcreso.com  Mon Apr 18 20:31:01 2005
From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Freegis-list] Presenting GIS data
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050418183101.27164.qmail@web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


AArrgghh! My apologies, sent the last one before I'd finished typing...


> Jürgen Mischker wrote:
> I am looking for a way to present a GIS project in a way like the WMS
> style. I only need some basic functions like zoom, turn on/off layers. 
> The criteria are that the everything should run from a CD under Win, so I
> need a pure client solution, without any installation process and big GIS
> knowledge.  
> Does somebody has any experience doing that...

I have just built a LiveCD with >1Gb of data using QGIS as the GIS data viewer.
Sounds like your needs are pretty similar to mine.

See GIS-Knoppix & the AIT Star CD as other examples.

I used PCLinuxOS as the enabling Linux distro as it makes it so easy:

boot off the PCLinuxOS CD
click the "install to hard disk" icon
   (use a 2Gb swap partition)
remove the CD & reboot
open the package manager & remove all the games & stuff you don't need
install the software you want
install the data
tweak any startup options, (autologon, etc)
 (I created a QGIS project to auto load some data on startup)
open a terminal window & su to root (if you are not root)
type "mklivecd demo1.iso"


done. Burn the iso to a CD & you have a GIS live CD. It uses squashfs to create
a compressed filesystem on the CD, so you can fit about 2Gb onto a standard
700Mb CD ROM.


I believe you could install a Windows binary of QGIS on a CD to run under
Windows from the CD instead, which may be simpler in your case. Check the QGIS
site for info on the Windows version, I haven't used that.


Cheers,

  Brent Wood




From tagitgis at gmail.com  Tue Apr 19 18:09:58 2005
From: tagitgis at gmail.com (TAG Information Technology)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:09:58 -0500
Subject: [Freegis-list] AVL GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800
Message-ID: <522d365d05041909093e9e9464@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for a Vehicle Tracking System (AVL). The system should work with
GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800.
The project would be implemented in N. Africa.
Any idea, past experience, or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for you quick response.

Regards,
Tarig Ahmed
TAG Information Technology
GIS/IT Consultants
469-261-0849



From nico.deblauwe at vub.ac.be  Wed Apr 20 09:11:21 2005
From: nico.deblauwe at vub.ac.be (Nico Deblauwe)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:21 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] AVL GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800
In-Reply-To: <522d365d05041909093e9e9464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <522d365d05041909093e9e9464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050420085920.01a08cc8@pop.vub.ac.be>

Hi,

I'm Nico Deblauwe, researcher at the Vrije Universiteit Brussels. We 
developed a tool for making GSM measurements with mobile phones, including 
a connection with a NMEA compatible GPS. This sounds like the building 
blocks you need for your project.

More information can be found at www.deblauwe.be/bmsc, in the second 
presentation there. If you are interested or want/need more information, 
please don't hesistate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Nico

At 06:09 PM 4/19/2005, TAG Information Technology wrote:
>Vehicle Tracking System (AVL). The system should work with
>GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800.
>The project would be implemented in N. Africa.
>Any idea, past experience, or advice would be appreciated.

--
Nico Deblauwe
VUB - dept ELEC

Email: Nico.Deblauwe at vub.ac.be
Tel: +32 2 629 29 79   Fax: +32 2 629 28 50  GSM: +32 486 84 08 93

VUB, gebouw K, Pleinlaan 2, 1050 Brussel, Belgium
http://wwwtw.vub.ac.be/elec/ndeblauwe.htm

"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." (Niels 
Bohr) 



From strk at keybit.net  Wed Apr 20 21:31:39 2005
From: strk at keybit.net (strk)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:31:39 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] PostGIS-1.0.0 Released
Message-ID: <20050420193139.GA922@freek.keybit.net>

PostGIS-1.0.0 is out.
More on postgis.refractions.net
--strk;



From Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org  Thu Apr 21 18:00:39 2005
From: Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org (Jeroen Ticheler)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:00:39 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] AVL GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050420085920.01a08cc8@pop.vub.ac.be>
References: <522d365d05041909093e9e9464@mail.gmail.com>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050420085920.01a08cc8@pop.vub.ac.be>
Message-ID: <4bac181a201d89a5b6ef1c3740c4d77d@fao.org>

Hi,
I just met Jorge, copied, at the GSDI-8 conference who was presenting 
the GeoWiki. I am sure you should connect to see how his SVG based 
system could be of use in this. He is able to read in GPS records and 
display them as a WMS or WFS through GeoServer. These systems together 
couls prove very valuable, also outside of the Vehicle tracking 
environment.
Ciao,
Jeroen

On 20 Apr 2005, at 09:11, Nico Deblauwe wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm Nico Deblauwe, researcher at the Vrije Universiteit Brussels. We
> developed a tool for making GSM measurements with mobile phones, 
> including
> a connection with a NMEA compatible GPS. This sounds like the building
> blocks you need for your project.
>
> More information can be found at www.deblauwe.be/bmsc, in the second
> presentation there. If you are interested or want/need more 
> information,
>  please don't hesistate to contact me.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nico
>
> At 06:09 PM 4/19/2005, TAG Information Technology wrote:
>  >Vehicle Tracking System (AVL). The system should work with
>  >GPS & GSM modem using SMS-900-1800.
>  >The project would be implemented in N. Africa.
>  >Any idea, past experience, or advice would be appreciated.
>
> -- 
>  Nico Deblauwe
>  VUB - dept ELEC
>
> Email: Nico.Deblauwe at vub.ac.be
> Tel: +32 2 629 29 79?? Fax: +32 2 629 28 50? GSM: +32 486 84 08 93
>
> VUB, gebouw K, Pleinlaan 2, 1050 Brussel, Belgium
>  http://wwwtw.vub.ac.be/elec/ndeblauwe.htm
>
> "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." 
> (Niels
> Bohr)
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Freegis-list mailing list
>  Freegis-list at intevation.de
> https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list


From Michael.Blume at iw.uni-karlsruhe.de  Wed Apr 20 11:18:02 2005
From: Michael.Blume at iw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Blume, Michael)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:18:02 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] shape of USA
Message-ID: <BC50800DFE0AEC49B2B8222EAF0CD963379E5B@ibwsrvp22.iw.uni-karlsruhe.de>

Hello,

 

I am looking for a "political" map of the United States. I just need it to plot the states in the background of other (financial) information. These are all located via latitude and longitude. So it would be great if there is any map just giving borders and coast shape in latitude and longitude information. 

 

Do you have thing similar? Or do you know a website where I can look for similar data?

 

Thank you so much and sorry for my English,

 

best regards

   Michael Blume

 

Hallo,

 

ich suche eine politische Karte der USA. Es geht nur um Grenzverl?ufe zwischen den einzelnen Staaten und der K?ste. Wenn m?glich w?re es genial wenn die Daten als L?ngen- und Breiten-Angaben vorl?gen, da die (Finanz)-Daten die ich darauf projezieren m?chte, ebenfalls als solche vorliegen.

 

Hat jemand eine Idee, wo man solche Informationen bekommen kann? Links/Website, etc?

 

Vielen Dank und viele Gr??e

            Michael Blume

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From jan at intevation.de  Fri Apr 22 08:19:36 2005
From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:19:36 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] shape of USA
In-Reply-To: <BC50800DFE0AEC49B2B8222EAF0CD963379E5B@ibwsrvp22.iw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <BC50800DFE0AEC49B2B8222EAF0CD963379E5B@ibwsrvp22.iw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Message-ID: <20050422061936.GA8290@intevation.de>

Hello Michael,

On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 11:18:02AM +0200, Blume, Michael wrote:
> I am looking for a political map of the United States. I just need it to plot
> the states in the background of other (financial) information. These are all
> located via latitude and longitude. So it would be great if there is any map
> just giving borders and coast shape in latitude and longitude information.
>  
> Do you have thing similar? Or do you know a website where I can look for
> similar data?

I once created a test set for Thuban which you can download here:
http://thuban.intevation.org/download.html#samples

It is Shapefile formant and 1.2 MB. This means it is a reduced
set of coordinates. IIRC the official set is much bigger.

Best

	Jan
-- 
Jan-Oliver Wagner               http://intevation.de/~jan/

Intevation GmbH                      http://intevation.de/
FreeGIS                                http://freegis.org/



From vivelinux at laposte.net  Fri Apr 22 09:05:49 2005
From: vivelinux at laposte.net (vivelinux)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:05:49 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS image library
Message-ID: <IFC6DP$42887950D2FCE4827E17C9B3A87B983A@laposte.net>

Hello everyone,
I 'm looking for an opensource library wich can read the
metadata of spot, ers, quickbird,etc. images.
Thanks if you can help and thanks anyway for reading :)

Acc?dez au courrier ?lectronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 
3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34?/mn) ; t?l : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34?/mn)





From jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca  Fri Apr 22 15:21:54 2005
From: jmckenna at dmsolutions.ca (Jeff McKenna)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:21:54 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
 Software - Call for Nominations
Message-ID: <4268FA72.1000505@dmsolutions.ca>

The organizing committee for the upcoming Open Source Geospatial '05 
conference would like to open nominations for the inaugural Sol Katz 
Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software.

The Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software (GFOSS) 
will be given to individuals who have demonstrated leadership in the 
GFOSS community. Recipients of the award will have contributed 
significantly through their activities to advance open source ideals in 
the geospatial realm.

Sol Katz was an early pioneer of GFOSS and left behind a large body of 
work in the form of applications, format specifications, and utilities 
while at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.  This early GFOSS archive 
provided both source code and applications freely available to the 
community.  Sol was also a frequent contributor to many geospatial list 
servers, providing much guidance to the geospatial community at large.

Sol unfortunately passed away in 1999 from Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, but 
his legacy lives on in the open source world. Those interested in making 
a donation to the American Cancer Society, as per Sol's family's 
request, can do so at
https://www.cancer.org/asp/donate/don_multi_donate.asp?navToScreen=don_1.

Nominations for the Sol Katz Award should be sent to 
sol.katz.award at gmail.com with a brief description of the reasons for 
this nomination.  Please place "Sol Katz Award" inthe subject of the 
email.  Nominations will be accepted until Saturday April 30th 
@midnight.  A recipient will be decided from the nomination list by a 
selection committee.

The winner of the Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source 
Software will be announced at the Open Source Geospatial conference in 
June.  The hope is that the award will both acknowledge the work of 
community members, and pay tribute to one of its founders, for years to 
come.




-- 
Organizing Committee
Open Source Geospatial '05
http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/mum/mtg2005.html



From arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info  Fri Apr 22 20:39:16 2005
From: arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info (arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info)
Date: 22 Apr 2005 18:39:16 -0000
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
Message-ID: <elmvEMlo.1114195156.0581400.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>


dear list

i have problem converting the VMAP0/Eurnasia dataset into shapefiles
using the ogr2ogr utility program.

i know that a problem with identical symptoms already has been solved on
this mailing list (see
http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2003-June/001411.html )
but the "tricks" mentioned there seem not to work in my case.

the ogr utility programs (ogrinfo / ogr2ogr) i use came with the
FWTools-linux-0.9.6 package and include OGDI support.

ogr2ogr works without complaining, but the resulting shapefiles are
almost empty.

ogrinfo tells me that all layers except 4 contain 0 features.
the 4 that contain features are:

feature count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line
feature count: 28   - tileref at tileref(*)_area
feature count: 107  - libreft at libref(*)_text
feature count: 28   - tilereft at tileref(*)_text

I tried with removing all trailing dots of the vpf files and i do not
access the dataset via nfs, but nothing worked so far.

i use commands like this:

ogr2ogr polbnda.shp gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \
'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'

and always get the same unsatisfying results without any errors or
warnings.

thanks for any hint

arthur



From Martin.Spott at mgras.net  Sat Apr 23 15:14:25 2005
From: Martin.Spott at mgras.net (Martin Spott)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:14:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Freegis-list] shape of USA
References: <BC50800DFE0AEC49B2B8222EAF0CD963379E5B@ibwsrvp22.iw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Message-ID: <d4dhng$jv2$1@osprey.mgras.de>

"Blume, Michael" wrote:

> I am looking for a "political" map of the United States.

You should have a look at this site:

  http://www.nationalatlas.gov/atlasftp.html?openChapters=chpbound#chpbound

Cheers,
	Martin.
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
--------------------------------------------------------------------------



From timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de  Sat Apr 23 17:53:12 2005
From: timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de (Tim Michelsen)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:53:12 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS for economical analysis
Message-ID: <200504231753.12382.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de>

Hi,
I got introduced to CommonGIS (http://www.commongis.com/).

This system is programmed in Java and features
- thematic mapping
- spatio-temporal mapping
- decition making support (ideal-point analysis)
- various statistic analysis

It is developed by the German research institute Fraunhofer Gesellschaft.
They have a university/ research licence free of charge.
Single desk costs about 1.200 Euro, multi-user 5.00 Euro.

The program mainly amis to serve decition supported analysis e. g. location 
finding for stores, regional marketing analysis ...

My question here:
Does anyone know a similar programm or  setup with FOSS?

(I know *GRASS can do this all* but imagine a tarditional economist sitting 
infront of a command line terminal to compute the weight of a multi criteria 
analysis...)

Greetings,
Tim



From Martin.Spott at mgras.net  Fri Apr 22 15:35:10 2005
From: Martin.Spott at mgras.net (Martin Spott)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:35:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Freegis-list] shape of USA
References: <BC50800DFE0AEC49B2B8222EAF0CD963379E5B@ibwsrvp22.iw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Message-ID: <d4auie$1cdi$1@osprey.mgras.de>

"Blume, Michael" wrote:

> I am looking for a "political" map of the United States.

You should have a look at this site:

  http://www.nationalatlas.gov/atlasftp.html?openChapters=chpbound#chpbound

Cheers,
	Martin.
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
--------------------------------------------------------------------------



From Silke.Reimer at intevation.de  Wed Apr 27 11:40:42 2005
From: Silke.Reimer at intevation.de (Silke Reimer)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:40:42 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
In-Reply-To: <elmvEMlo.1114195156.0581400.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>
References: <elmvEMlo.1114195156.0581400.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>
Message-ID: <20050427094042.GB23745@intevation.de>

Dear Arthur,

On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 06:39:16PM -0000, arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info wrote:
> 
> dear list
> 
> i have problem converting the VMAP0/Eurnasia dataset into shapefiles
> using the ogr2ogr utility program.
> 
> i know that a problem with identical symptoms already has been solved on
> this mailing list (see
> http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2003-June/001411.html )
> but the "tricks" mentioned there seem not to work in my case.
> 
> the ogr utility programs (ogrinfo / ogr2ogr) i use came with the
> FWTools-linux-0.9.6 package and include OGDI support.
> 
> ogr2ogr works without complaining, but the resulting shapefiles are
> almost empty.
> 
> ogrinfo tells me that all layers except 4 contain 0 features.
> the 4 that contain features are:
> 
> feature count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line
> feature count: 28   - tileref at tileref(*)_area
> feature count: 107  - libreft at libref(*)_text
> feature count: 28   - tilereft at tileref(*)_text
> 
> I tried with removing all trailing dots of the vpf files and i do not
> access the dataset via nfs, but nothing worked so far.
> 
> i use commands like this:
> 
> ogr2ogr polbnda.shp gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \
> 'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'

I tried exactly same (only replacing /absolute/path/to/v0eur/ by /cdrom/ ;-)
and it works great.  I used an ogr2ogr version 1.2.1 compiled with
ogdi-support.

What happens if you type
ogrinfo gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia  'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'

It should give some general information about the layer and
afterwards some information about each feature.

If this doesn't give a clou you should perhaps ask on gdal-dev again
since there are normally more people who are competent with the
usage of ogr.

Many greetings,

	Silke

-- 
Intevation GmbH

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From arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info  Wed Apr 27 13:13:49 2005
From: arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info (arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info)
Date: 27 Apr 2005 11:13:49 -0000
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
In-Reply-To: <20050427094042.GB23745@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <k49ZG7qs.1114600429.5936760.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>


Dear Silke,

i succeeded to convert the dataset using the FWTools binaries for windows.
so i got the data now and it's not so urgent anymore (but still a
mystery).

on debian
ogrinfo gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia 
'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'
tells me:

ERROR 4: OGDI Driver doesn't support update.
Had to open data source read-only.
INFO: Open of `gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia'
using driver `OGDI' successful.

Layer name: polbnda at bnd(*)_area
Geometry: Polygon
Feature Count: 0
Layer SRS WKT:
GEOGCS["NAD83",
    DATUM["North_American_Datum_1983",
        SPHEROID["GRS 1980",6378137,298.257222101,
            AUTHORITY["EPSG","7019"]],
        TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0],
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","6269"]],
    PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","8901"]],
    UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433,
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","9108"]],
    AXIS["Lat",NORTH],
    AXIS["Long",EAST],
    AUTHORITY["EPSG","4269"]]
id: Integer (10.0)
f_code: String (5.0)
nam: String (64.0)
na2: String (2.0)
na3: String (1.0)
tile_id: Integer (5.0)
fac_id: Integer (10.0)


opening the data "read-only" is ok i guess, but "Feature Count: 0"
isn't.

on windows ogrinfo tells me "Feature Count: 5847" and starts listing
them.
the ogr version is 1.2.5 for both FWTools packages.

anyway
thanks very much for your help

arthur


On 4/27/2005, "Silke Reimer" <Silke.Reimer at intevation.de> wrote:

>Dear Arthur,
>
>On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 06:39:16PM -0000, arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info wrote:
>> 
>> dear list
>> 
>> i have problem converting the VMAP0/Eurnasia dataset into shapefiles
>> using the ogr2ogr utility program.
>> 
>> i know that a problem with identical symptoms already has been solved on
>> this mailing list (see
>> http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2003-June/001411.html )
>> but the "tricks" mentioned there seem not to work in my case.
>> 
>> the ogr utility programs (ogrinfo / ogr2ogr) i use came with the
>> FWTools-linux-0.9.6 package and include OGDI support.
>> 
>> ogr2ogr works without complaining, but the resulting shapefiles are
>> almost empty.
>> 
>> ogrinfo tells me that all layers except 4 contain 0 features.
>> the 4 that contain features are:
>> 
>> feature count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line
>> feature count: 28   - tileref at tileref(*)_area
>> feature count: 107  - libreft at libref(*)_text
>> feature count: 28   - tilereft at tileref(*)_text
>> 
>> I tried with removing all trailing dots of the vpf files and i do not
>> access the dataset via nfs, but nothing worked so far.
>> 
>> i use commands like this:
>> 
>> ogr2ogr polbnda.shp gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \
>> 'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'
>
>I tried exactly same (only replacing /absolute/path/to/v0eur/ by /cdrom/ ;-)
>and it works great.  I used an ogr2ogr version 1.2.1 compiled with
>ogdi-support.
>
>What happens if you type
>ogrinfo gltp:/vrf/absolute/path/to/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia  'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'
>
>It should give some general information about the layer and
>afterwards some information about each feature.
>
>If this doesn't give a clou you should perhaps ask on gdal-dev again
>since there are normally more people who are competent with the
>usage of ogr.
>
>Many greetings,
>
>	Silke
>
>-- 
>Intevation GmbH
>
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From neteler at itc.it  Wed Apr 27 15:31:59 2005
From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:31:59 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
In-Reply-To: <20050427094042.GB23745@intevation.de>
References: <elmvEMlo.1114195156.0581400.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>
	<20050427094042.GB23745@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <20050427133159.GG19598@thuille.itc.it>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 11:40:42AM +0200, Silke Reimer wrote:
...
> I used an ogr2ogr version 1.2.1 compiled with
> ogdi-support.

[ This might be a bit old ]

arthur wrote:
> opening the data "read-only" is ok i guess, but "Feature Count: 0"
> isn't.

To solve this, add '-ro' (read only) to the parameter/flags list:

VMAP0DIR=grass0/warmerdam/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia

ogrinfo -ro -summary gltp:/vrf/${VMAP0DIR} 'polbnda at bnd(*)_area'
INFO: Open of `gltp:/vrf/grass0/warmerdam/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia'
using driver `OGDI' successful.

Layer name: polbnda at bnd(*)_area
Geometry: Polygon
Feature Count: 5847
Extent: (-31.265751, 30.000000) - (179.999900, 81.857361)
Layer SRS WKT:
GEOGCS["NAD83",
    DATUM["North_American_Datum_1983",
        SPHEROID["GRS 1980",6378137,298.257222101,
            AUTHORITY["EPSG","7019"]],
        TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0],
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","6269"]],
    PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","8901"]],
    UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433,
        AUTHORITY["EPSG","9108"]],
    AXIS["Lat",NORTH],
    AXIS["Long",EAST],
    AUTHORITY["EPSG","4269"]]
id: Integer (10.0)
f_code: String (5.0)
nam: String (64.0)
na2: String (2.0)
na3: String (1.0)
tile_id: Integer (5.0)
fac_id: Integer (10.0)

Now feature count is 5847.

I assume that GDAL/OGR >= 1.2.5 works ok with a
recent OGDI version.

Markus



From arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info  Wed Apr 27 19:34:35 2005
From: arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info (arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info)
Date: 27 Apr 2005 17:34:35 -0000
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
In-Reply-To: <20050427133159.GG19598@thuille.itc.it>
Message-ID: <5fCOU703.1114623275.9637720.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>


so finally i found out, what my problem was ..
i had some uppercase letters in this "/absolute/path/TO/v0eur"  !!
this seems to be a confirmed bug for the VRF driver

sorry for bothering

arthur



From blazek at itc.it  Thu Apr 28 11:07:36 2005
From: blazek at itc.it (Radim Blazek)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:07:36 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS for economical analysis
In-Reply-To: <200504231753.12382.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de>
References: <200504231753.12382.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de>
Message-ID: <4270A7D8.7000809@itc.it>

Tim Michelsen wrote:
> (I know *GRASS can do this all* but imagine a tarditional economist sitting 
> infront of a command line terminal to compute the weight of a multi criteria 
> analysis...)

I don't say that you should use GRASS, just for others so that they 
don't get a wrong impression.

GRASS does not necessarily mean command line. GRASS modules can be used 
from QGIS (http://qgis.org/), via GUI:
http://mpa.itc.it/radim/qgis/grass-tools2.png
http://mpa.itc.it/radim/qgis/grass-tools3.png

Configuration of the menu and modules is written in XML files and it can 
be easily modified for specialised tasks and users.

Radim



From neteler at itc.it  Thu Apr 28 12:36:41 2005
From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:36:41 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] vmap0 and ogr2ogr
In-Reply-To: <5fCOU703.1114623275.9637720.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>
References: <20050427133159.GG19598@thuille.itc.it>
	<5fCOU703.1114623275.9637720.arthur@sirius-cybernetics.info>
Message-ID: <20050428103640.GB7258@thuille.itc.it>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 05:34:35PM -0000, arthur at sirius-cybernetics.info wrote:
> 
> so finally i found out, what my problem was ..
> i had some uppercase letters in this "/absolute/path/TO/v0eur"  !!
> this seems to be a confirmed bug for the VRF driver

Yes.
See also this one on OGDI version:
  http://xserve.flids.com/pipermail/gdal-dev/2005-February/008192.html

I am currently writing an article on SRTM and VMAP0 for the GRASS Newsletter.
Should appear soon if accepted.

Markus



From starged at videotron.ca  Fri Apr 29 03:02:33 2005
From: starged at videotron.ca (Mario Beauchamp)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:02:33 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Fusion tool for OpenEV and GDAL
Message-ID: <427187A9.4080503@videotron.ca>

Hi all,

The Beta version of my fusion tool for OpenEV is available here:

http://pages.infinit.net/starged/openev/fusion.py

There is also a command-line version only requiring GDAL and Numeric:

http://pages.infinit.net/starged/gdal/fusion-gdal.py

Fusion, also known as pansharpening or pan merging is the sharpening of an enlarged RGB 
composite image using a higher resolution panchromatic greyscale image to obtain a sharper color 
image. The most common use is the fusion of Landsat panchromatic 15m band-8 with an RGB 30m 
bands 3,2,1. It is undetermined how this tool will perform on other types of imagery (ie SPOT, 
Ikonos, Quickbird) as I don't have access to any of those...

Enjoy!
--
Mario B.
For a demo of Landsat pansharpened images see:
http://pages.infinit.net/starged/landsat/home.htm



From neteler at itc.it  Fri Apr 29 16:14:25 2005
From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:14:25 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Announced NGA Map Sale Change: TCP, ONC, JNC, GNC
Message-ID: <20050429141425.GI2373@thuille.itc.it>

Hi all,

is the FreeGIS community aware of this story (just found it by
chance):

http://www.gismonitor.com/news/newsletter/archive/010605.php
"NGA Map Sale Change

 Back in November 2004, NGA stated (pdf [1]) in the Federal Register that
 it intends to end sales of its Tactical Pilotage Chart, a 1:500,000
 map designed to provide worldwide coverage for tactical reconnaissance
 missions and Operational Navigation Chart, a 1:1,000,000 map designed
 to provide worldwide coverage for high-speed radar navigation.
[...]
 NGA states that international deals for data sharing require this
 change since these products compete with in-country efforts (public
 and private) to develop and sell such maps. In addition, there is
 mention of increased security, since after October sales will be
 limited to Department of Defense players.
[...]
 The sales policy change has prompted one person to set up NGAMaps.com,
 a website to trade CDs of the data in question (almost none has
 copyright). The goal is to purchase as many of the $14 CDs as
 possible, so that all of the data is available in the civilian
 community before it's no longer available. There are no sales at the
 website, nor is it a profit making scheme, says its creator. The data
 are in ARC Digitized Raster Graphic (ADRG)...
"
- end of citation.

GDAL can do the ADRG conversion to other raster formats:
 http://www.gdal.org/frmt_ogdi.html


If this is all true, how to rescue the maps...? Some
sort of FreeGIS server collection might be nice. I found some
TCP maps here
 http://www.hiciraq.org/mapcentre/geographic/500k/index.asp
Search engines will know more archives.

Opinions? Worth the efforts? 

Markus


[1] http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/FR-04-25631.pdf



From bernhard at intevation.de  Fri Apr 29 17:15:54 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:15:54 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Announced NGA Map Sale Change: TCP, ONC, JNC, GNC
In-Reply-To: <20050429141425.GI2373@thuille.itc.it>
References: <20050429141425.GI2373@thuille.itc.it>
Message-ID: <20050429151554.GB8915@intevation.de>

Am 29. Apr 2005 um 16:14:25 schrieb Markus Neteler:
> is the FreeGIS community aware of this story (just found it by
> chance):

At least not me, thanks for posting it.

>	NGAMaps.com,
>  a website to trade CDs of the data in question (almost none has
>  copyright). The goal is to purchase as many of the $14 CDs as
>  possible, so that all of the data is available in the civilian
>  community before it's no longer available. 

> GDAL can do the ADRG conversion to other raster formats:
>  http://www.gdal.org/frmt_ogdi.html
> 
> 
> If this is all true, how to rescue the maps...? 

First we would need to find out about how much data we are looking at.
Then we can think about a strategy.
Burning DVDs or have two harddisks can be very helpful
in many cases. 
We then would need someone to donate the bandwidth for serving it.

> Some sort of FreeGIS server collection might be nice. I found some
> TCP maps here
>  http://www.hiciraq.org/mapcentre/geographic/500k/index.asp
> Search engines will know more archives.
> 
> Opinions? Worth the efforts? 
> [1] http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/FR-04-25631.pdf

I guess it can be worth the effort.

	Bernhard

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From fwarmerdam at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 18:07:09 2005
From: fwarmerdam at gmail.com (Frank Warmerdam)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:07:09 -0400
Subject: [Freegis-list] Announced NGA Map Sale Change: TCP, ONC, JNC, GNC
In-Reply-To: <20050429151554.GB8915@intevation.de>
References: <20050429141425.GI2373@thuille.itc.it>
	<20050429151554.GB8915@intevation.de>
Message-ID: <931f8ea90504290907476baa68@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/29/05, Bernhard Reiter <bernhard at intevation.de> wrote:
> First we would need to find out about how much data we are looking at.
> Then we can think about a strategy.
> Burning DVDs or have two harddisks can be very helpful
> in many cases.
> We then would need someone to donate the bandwidth for serving it.

Bernhard, 


From bernhard at intevation.de  Fri Apr 29 20:13:46 2005
From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:13:46 +0200
Subject: [Freegis-list] Announced NGA Map Sale Change: TCP, ONC, JNC, GNC
In-Reply-To: <931f8ea90504290907476baa68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050429141425.GI2373@thuille.itc.it>
	<20050429151554.GB8915@intevation.de>
	<931f8ea90504290907476baa68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050429181346.GG695@intevation.de>

Frank,

Am 29. Apr 2005 um 12:07:09 schrieb Frank Warmerdam:
> On 4/29/05, Bernhard Reiter <bernhard at intevation.de> wrote:
> >From a scan of the NGA catalog it would seem there are approximately:
> 
>  GNC (1:5000000): 25
>  JNC (1:2000000): 108
>  ONC (1:1000000): 250
>  TPC (1:500000): 700
> 
> I'm not clear on how much disk space that amounts ot, but it
> would appear to take appoximately $15000 USD to purchase
> all the datasets.  I gather that they have limited supplies and
> are not producing new CDs, so some of these are likely already
> unavailable. 

I know that some US libraries keep many data CDs.
They might have a few and copying would we cheap for a person on site.
(E.g. the map library of the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee.)

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