From Silke.Reimer at intevation.de Wed Sep 1 18:59:42 2004 From: Silke.Reimer at intevation.de (Silke Reimer) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:59:42 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS packages for Fedora Core 2 Message-ID: <20040901165942.GT16620@intevation.de> Hallo! Some weeks ago I announced some Fedora Core 2 packages (among them GRASS, gdal and Thuban). I would like to inform you that they have now been registered on the official fedora-site [1] and are undergoing a qualitiy assurance by the Fedora QA-team. Hopefully they will be part of official Fedora Core releases in the future. You can follow the progress on Fedora bugzilla (see the list of links below). All packages can be downloaded from our FTP-Site [2] and its FreeGIS mirror [3]. There are three subdirectories: SPEC, SRPMS, and RPMS. They are containing Specfiles, source rpms and binary rpms respectively. Some of the Specfiles are already included in the corresponding projects others will probably included in the near future. I would appreciate to get any comment, suggestion etc. from your side. GRASS, Thuban and gdal are now based on the shapelib and proj packages by David M. Kaplan and Steve Arnold who did register their packages in November and December 2003. Their status on Fedora.us can also be viewed on Fedora bugzilla. Thuban additionally needs python-sqlite. Since this is not yet part of Fedora, I announced it myself. My package is based on the package by Dag Wieers [4]. Thanks Dag! I set up a page which summarizes all the information about the projects including the actual links to the packages. This page will is located at our homepage [5]. Many greetings, Silke Fedora status for various GIS related packages: GRASS: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1965 Thuban: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=2001 gdal: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1964 python-sqlite: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=2000 shapelib: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=937 proj: https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=920 [1] http://www.fedora.us [2] http://ftp.intevation.de/freegis/fedora/2/ [3] http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/freegis/intevation/fedora/2/ [4] http://dag.wieers.com/packages/ [5] http://intevation.net/projects/fedora-gis.en.html You have new mail in /var/mail/silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am learner and java is very difficult for me at this time ?? thanks Thierry http://charlys.homelinux.org From evdakov at iwk.uka.de Fri Sep 3 14:55:34 2004 From: evdakov at iwk.uka.de (Oleg) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:55:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] calling raster calculator from Java Message-ID: <413869C6.4000103@iwk.uka.de> Dear All, Is there software for performing raster calculation which would be possible to call from Java? For example to perform subtraction of 2 GRIDS Thanks a lot in advance Oleg From napo at itc.it Mon Sep 6 10:08:28 2004 From: napo at itc.it (Maurizio Napolitano) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:08:28 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] calling raster calculator from Java In-Reply-To: <413869C6.4000103@iwk.uka.de> References: <413869C6.4000103@iwk.uka.de> Message-ID: <413C1AFC.7080807@itc.it> Oleg ha scritto: > Dear All, > Is there software for performing raster calculation which would be > possible to call from Java? The java binding to grass by jni: GRASS-JNI (aka grass-java) Look here http://lesam.geog.buffalo.edu/staff/sorokine/software.html > For example to perform subtraction of 2 GRIDS > Thanks a lot in advance Probaly you can find another solution by using the api of Landserf (http://www.landserf.org) This is a java-gis application for raster-data. It's free but ... free as a free beer (and not as free speak) From neteler at itc.it Mon Sep 6 12:29:05 2004 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:29:05 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] calling raster calculator from Java In-Reply-To: <413C1AFC.7080807@itc.it> References: <413869C6.4000103@iwk.uka.de> <413C1AFC.7080807@itc.it> Message-ID: <20040906102905.GA19182@thuille.itc.it> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:08:28AM +0200, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > > > Oleg ha scritto: > >Dear All, > >Is there software for performing raster calculation which would be > >possible to call from Java? > > The java binding to grass by jni: GRASS-JNI (aka grass-java) > Look here > http://lesam.geog.buffalo.edu/staff/sorokine/software.html There are new efforts for GRASS-JAVA ongoing: Free and Open Source Software for Geoinformatics: GIS-GRASS User Conference 2004 (Bangkok, Thailand, Sept 12-14, 2004) http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/grass04/viewabstract.php?id=7 JGrass, a multi-platform, multi-session GRASS - the framework and features Regards Markus From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Sep 6 16:09:36 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:09:36 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] calling raster calculator from Java In-Reply-To: <413C1AFC.7080807@itc.it> References: <413869C6.4000103@iwk.uka.de> <413C1AFC.7080807@itc.it> Message-ID: <20040906140936.GJ2675@intevation.de> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:08:28AM +0200, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > Probaly you can find another solution by using the api > of > It's free but ... free as a free beer (and not as free speak) Please do not promote unfree software on this list. There are many places where users can inform themselfs about proprietary software. This list is dedicated to Free Software. Thanks, Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the problem is most prominent today for Java programs, we call it the Java Trap. > I am learner and java is very difficult for me at this time ?? Anybody out there that has more experiences with Degree running on a Free Software java toolchain? Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040906/fea8296b/attachment.bin From jan at intevation.de Tue Sep 7 17:49:15 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:49:15 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS speaker for World Urban Planning Forum, Barcelona, 16th Sept? Message-ID: <20040907154915.GA31017@intevation.de> Hi FreeGIS people, we are looking for a FreeGIS representative for a workshop at UN Habitat Urban World Forum in Barcelona, 16th September 2004. If you feel competent in Free Software and GIS and also in the aspect of commercial Free Software and if you are interested in giving a short introduction at the workshop, please contact me off-list, ie. via private email. Some Details: It's a workshop from 9:30 to 13:00 organized by the MILES consortium (Managing Information for Local Environment in Sri Lanka). The titel is "Managing information for the local environment". A 5-10 minutes presentation as a warm-up is to be given about Free GIS Software. Then an open discussion will follow. I think the bias should be on Free Software to have the later on discussion focus this matter instead of discussing endless on some technical GIS details. More details: http://www.unhabitat.org/wuf/2004/default.asp http://www.unhabitat.org/wuf/2004/networking.asp#Thur and there especially: http://www.unhabitat.org/wuf/2004/documents/n51.pdf A share of the travel costs can be funded, but it is likely that you have some extra costs. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From info at terracopter.com Thu Sep 9 02:11:07 2004 From: info at terracopter.com (Terracopter TS) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Freegis-list] Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format Message-ID: Get it from http://terracopter.com From gpezzuchi at way.com.ar Thu Sep 9 05:06:46 2004 From: gpezzuchi at way.com.ar (Gaston Pezzuchi) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:06:46 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free Districting software References: <200409011944.49709.thierry.charlot@free.fr> <20040906141420.GK2675@intevation.de> Message-ID: <0b0101c4961a$0ff0ec60$0201a8c0@xp3100ecs> Is there anyone aware of a free districting solution (for automated districting). Ideally I would like to be able to optimize a multi criteria objective function, and create a balanced solution. Thanks for your help, Gaston Pezzuchi ---------------------------------------- Mi Bandeja de entrada es protegida por SPAMfighter 6850 hasta ahora los spam correos que han sido bloqueados. ?Descargado libremente www.spamfighter.com (gratis) hoy! From stef at zoomata.com Thu Sep 9 06:15:37 2004 From: stef at zoomata.com (Stefano Maffulli) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 06:15:37 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094703337.2765.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 02:11, Terracopter TS wrote: > Get it from [...] I couldn't find any hint that this is free-as-in-freedom software. From nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de Thu Sep 9 14:22:48 2004 From: nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de (Nils Faerber) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:22:48 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format In-Reply-To: <1094703337.2765.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1094703337.2765.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1094732568.1561.721.camel@localhost> Am Do, den 09.09.2004 schrieb Stefano Maffulli um 6:15: > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 02:11, Terracopter TS wrote: > > Get it from [...] > I couldn't find any hint that this is free-as-in-freedom software. Not only that but you also have to register as a user of their web site to be able to download it. Since personal information has become a good nowadays this could even be considered a payment (you pay with your good name ;) Stefano: A free download does not constitute free software. Especially if the format of the data to be viewed (only) by the application is created with proprietary software then the use of the viewer-only application is limited. Consider releasing the source code under some OSI certified license and we are back in busines ;) CU nils faerber -- kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- From info at terracopter.com Thu Sep 9 17:26:44 2004 From: info at terracopter.com (Terracopter TS) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format References: <1094703337.2765.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1094732568.1561.721.camel@localhost> Message-ID: > I couldn't find any hint that this is free-as-in-freedom software. Sorry if I missed some requirement regarding this mailing list. I was looking for some place on the Internet to post an announcement for "you-do-not- have-to-send-us-money-to-use-it" software. Actually someone else on some forum suggested I should post here. If the moderator of this mailing list feels the way you do I'd would not have any problem whatsoever seeing the post deleted & I will not post announcements here again. Or I'd be happy to edit the post - if that was possible. > Not only that but you also have to register as a user of their web site > to be able to download it. The reason is that we want to have some kind of idea of how many people are sufficiently interested and more or less in which businesses. What on earth is wrong with that? > Since personal information has become a good nowadays this could even be > considered a payment (you pay with your good name ;) Strongly disagree. You "pay" with any name you like, not necessarily the "good one". Some members "pay" with usernames such as "abc def" and email addresses as "abc12345 at hotmail.com". We have no problem with that. Some people WANT to be seen and other do not. We offer both possibilities. The same applies when posting to this mailing list. > Consider releasing the source code under some OSI certified license and > we are back in busines ;) We might to that in time. I'll ask you guys about the phrasing of the announcement ;-) From ben at vterrain.org Fri Sep 10 02:49:38 2004 From: ben at vterrain.org (Ben Discoe) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:49:38 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008b01c496d0$0ce90be0$f400fe0a@TOPP2> > ----- > From: Terracopter TS > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:27 AM > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > > > Not only that but you also have to register as a user > > of their web site to be able to download it. > > The reason is that we want to have some kind of idea of how > many people are sufficiently interested and more or less in > which businesses. What on earth is wrong with that? In my opinion, nothing. The VTP is free (both gratis and libre) and we ask for an email with a person's name and city. However, it _is_ optional. If they send an email like "Hello, i am a paranoid, i am not going to tell you my name or anything about me. Just let me download the software." then i still let them download. > Some members "pay" with usernames such as "abc def" and > email addresses as "abc12345 at hotmail.com". We have no problem > with that. Exactly the same for the VTP. > > Consider releasing the source code under some OSI certified > > license and we are back in busines ;) > > We might to that in time. I'll ask you guys about the phrasing > of the announcement ;-) FWIW, i think it's a very good idea for your Teracopter software, it is well suited to being Open and Free. -Ben From stef at zoomata.com Mon Sep 13 22:43:45 2004 From: stef at zoomata.com (Stefano Maffulli) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:43:45 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Free 3D viewer for maps on Planet format In-Reply-To: References: <1094703337.2765.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1094732568.1561.721.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1095108225.4043.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 17:26, Terracopter TS wrote: > > I couldn't find any hint that this is free-as-in-freedom software. > > Sorry if I missed some requirement regarding this mailing list. The purpose of this list is to support Free Software. Free Software on this list is defined by the four freedom put forward by the FSF in the late 1980s[1]. "Open Source" is a failed marketing term from 1998 trying to describe the same set of software by definition. You can read about why we speak about Free Software [2]. BTW, strictly speaking, it is not against Free Software asking for personal details before allowing the download of software as those that download it the first time receive the right to distribute the program again. regards stefano [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html [2] http://fsfeurope.org/documents/whyfs.en.html From warmerdam at pobox.com Thu Sep 16 22:54:35 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:54:35 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] GDAL 1.2.2 Released Message-ID: <4149FD8B.7000802@pobox.com> Folks, I have cut a GDAL 1.2.2 release, and this is also my "coming out" with the new gdal.org domain. Currently gdal.org is hosted on a kind of crappy web server where I can't even run scripts to update the web site. This means that the web site is updated manually (aka - not so frequently) and email, bugzilla, cvs and ftp services containue to be hosted by others (DMSolutions via maptools.org and ImageLinks and IDS for the remotesensing.org services). But the www.gdal.org web/download service has cheap bandwidth so I am a bit less of a drain on everyone else. I encourage you to grab release downloads from http://www.gdal.org/dl though daily snapshots are still only available from: http://gdal.maptools/org/dl/daily The NEWS file can be read at: http://www.gdal.org/NEWS.html The following are new for 1.2.2: GDAL 1.2.2 - Overview of Changes -------------------------------- GRASS Driver: - Add Radim's version of the driver submitted by Radim. This version uses GRASS 5.7 libraries directly instead of using libgrass. DODS Driver: - Added support for spatial_ref, FlipX and FlipY .das info. CPG Driver: - added new driver for Convair Polarmetric format. HDF Driver: - Significant bugs fixed. USGS DEM Driver: - Support writing UTM projected files. PNG Driver: - Upgraded to libpng 1.2.6. MrSID Driver: - Substantial performance improvements. - Support for DSDK 4.x - Support JPEG2000 files via MrSID SDK. NITF Driver: - Support JPEG2000 compressed files (with Kakadu support) ESRI BIL: - Support .clr color files. VRT Driver: - Added support for describing raw files with VRTRawRasterBand. - Added support for virtual warped files with VRTWarpedRasterBand. GeoTIFF Driver: - Fix support for 16bit image color tables. - Write ExtraSamples tag for files with more samples than expected in photometric interpretation. - External overviews now built for read-only files. Erdas Imagine Driver: - Fixed support for compressed floating point layers. - Various other fixes for compatible with newer Imagine versions. - improved metadata handling. gdal_merge.py: - sets projection on output file. OGR 1.2.2 - Overview of Changes ------------------------------- SQLite Driver: - New read/write driver implemented for SQLite databases. CSV Driver: - New read/write driver implemented for comma seperated value files. S-57 Driver: - Substantial performance improvements. ODBC Driver: - Arbitrary length field values now supported. GEOS: - Integration a series of methods utilizing GEOS when available. Note that Intersect() is still just an envelope comparison. OGRSpatialReference: - Fixed Swiss Oblique Mercator support. A new OpenEV_FW 1.8.2 synced with GDAL 1.2.2 should following within a few hours. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From jburnett at e-masi.com Mon Sep 20 16:46:39 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:46:39 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis Message-ID: <00ef01c49f20$a2c9a3b0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> FREE Visual Basic GIS Library http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040920/de320c8d/attachment.html From mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de Tue Sep 21 16:59:32 2004 From: mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:59:32 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GRASS-News vol. 2 Message-ID: <200409211659.32559.mailinglist2_wegmann@web.de> Dear GRASS user, the second volume of GRASS-News should be published in the middle of November. ? Please submit articles until beginning of november. Have a look at http://grass.itc.it/newsletter for more details and use the submission system for submitting articles. Additionally to the already listed categories, did Paolo Cavallini propose a "GRASS in real-life" section. Feel free to present what you do with GRASS in your every day work. Looking forward to articles covering modelling, animation, analysis with GRASS. regards, Martin P.S.: please forward this mail to national GRASS mailinglists and other GIS/RS ML. Thanks. From jan at intevation.de Wed Sep 22 10:06:09 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:06:09 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis In-Reply-To: <00ef01c49f20$a2c9a3b0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> References: <00ef01c49f20$a2c9a3b0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> Message-ID: <20040922080609.GA15227@intevation.de> Hi Jim, On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:46:39AM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > FREE Visual Basic GIS Library > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ I did not find the source code or a license statement. Is your tool Free Software? Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Wed Sep 22 18:20:52 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:20:52 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis In-Reply-To: <20040922080609.GA15227@intevation.de> References: <00ef01c49f20$a2c9a3b0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> <20040922080609.GA15227@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20040922162052.GA1861@intevation.de> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 10:06:09AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:46:39AM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > > FREE Visual Basic GIS Library > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > I did not find the source code or a license statement. > Is your tool Free Software? got feedback from the author. The tool is no (maybe not yet) Free Software as required for FreeGIS and defined by the FSF. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jburnett at e-masi.com Wed Sep 22 18:38:14 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:38:14 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis References: <00ef01c49f20$a2c9a3b0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP><20040922080609.GA15227@intevation.de> <20040922162052.GA1861@intevation.de> Message-ID: <007b01c4a0c2$8e5a2af0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ You can download it, and its free. Do I need to supply a license saying its free? Its not open source yet, but its free. -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan-Oliver Wagner" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 10:06:09AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:46:39AM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > > > FREE Visual Basic GIS Library > > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > > > I did not find the source code or a license statement. > > Is your tool Free Software? > > got feedback from the author. The tool is no (maybe not yet) Free Software > as required for FreeGIS and defined by the FSF. > > Jan > > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From lists at webmapit.com.br Wed Sep 22 18:48:47 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:48:47 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis In-Reply-To: <007b01c4a0c2$8e5a2af0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> References: <007b01c4a0c2$8e5a2af0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> Message-ID: <20040922164849.7743.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> YES... Because FreeWare is not Free Software. best regards. Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br UIN: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:38:14 -0400, "Jim Burnett" escreveu: > De: "Jim Burnett" > Data: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:38:14 -0400 > Para: "Jan-Oliver Wagner" , > Assunto: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > You can download it, and its free. Do I need to supply a license saying its > free? > Its not open source yet, but its free. > > -Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan-Oliver Wagner" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 10:06:09AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:46:39AM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > > > > FREE Visual Basic GIS Library > > > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > > > > > I did not find the source code or a license statement. > > > Is your tool Free Software? > > > > got feedback from the author. The tool is no (maybe not yet) Free Software > > as required for FreeGIS and defined by the FSF. > > > > Jan > > > > -- > > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freegis-list mailing list > > Freegis-list at intevation.de > > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > From jburnett at e-masi.com Wed Sep 22 20:05:42 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:05:42 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis References: <007b01c4a0c2$8e5a2af0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> <20040922164849.7743.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Message-ID: <009301c4a0ce$c6bdef60$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> ok this is good for me to know. I want to make this 100% free. I want it so people can use it and re-distribute it in their applications commercially or for personal use, all for fee. What kind of license do I need for that? Thanks -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Patto Kanegae" To: "Jim Burnett" ; "Jan-Oliver Wagner" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > YES... > > Because FreeWare is not Free Software. > > best regards. > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > UIN: 303747254 > > Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver > F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum > > ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:38:14 -0400, "Jim Burnett" escreveu: > > > De: "Jim Burnett" > > Data: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:38:14 -0400 > > Para: "Jan-Oliver Wagner" , > > Assunto: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > > > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > > > You can download it, and its free. Do I need to supply a license saying its > > free? > > Its not open source yet, but its free. > > > > -Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan-Oliver Wagner" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 10:06:09AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:46:39AM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > > > > > FREE Visual Basic GIS Library > > > > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > > > > > > > I did not find the source code or a license statement. > > > > Is your tool Free Software? > > > > > > got feedback from the author. The tool is no (maybe not yet) Free Software > > > as required for FreeGIS and defined by the FSF. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > -- > > > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > > > > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > > > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Freegis-list mailing list > > > Freegis-list at intevation.de > > > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freegis-list mailing list > > Freegis-list at intevation.de > > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From jan at intevation.de Wed Sep 22 20:17:34 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:17:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis In-Reply-To: <009301c4a0ce$c6bdef60$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> References: <007b01c4a0c2$8e5a2af0$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> <20040922164849.7743.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <009301c4a0ce$c6bdef60$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> Message-ID: <20040922181734.GA14599@intevation.de> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 02:05:42PM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > ok this is good for me to know. I want to make this 100% free. I want it so > people can use it and re-distribute it in their applications commercially > or for personal use, all for fee. What kind of license do I need for that? the license must grant the 4 freedoms defined for Free Software: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Basically 3 standard license cover the range between Free Software with protection of Freedom and Free Software without protection of freedom: GNU GPL (strong protection), GNU LPGL and MIT/BSD (no protection). If you are the only copyright holder, you can apply the GNU GPL first and may later decide to license it under another as well. However, read about the licenses at the FSF pages to learn the deatils. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From tjmitchell at riverside.bc.ca Fri Sep 24 18:39:52 2004 From: tjmitchell at riverside.bc.ca (Tyler Mitchell) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:39:52 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis In-Reply-To: <009301c4a0ce$c6bdef60$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> Message-ID: > ok this is good for me to know. I want to make this 100% free. I want it so > people can use it and re-distribute it in their applications commercially > or for personal use, all for fee. What kind of license do I need for that? Hi Jim, I assume you meant "...all for fRee". What a difference one letter makes :) Tyler From jburnett at e-masi.com Fri Sep 24 20:06:41 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:06:41 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis References: Message-ID: <007a01c4a261$3e938840$e301a8c0@BURNETTXP> yeah, I meant free and i type fee. LOL!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Mitchell" To: "Jim Burnett" ; Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] visual basic gis > > ok this is good for me to know. I want to make this 100% free. I want it > so > > people can use it and re-distribute it in their applications > commercially > > > or for personal use, all for fee. What kind of license do I need for > that? > > Hi Jim, I assume you meant "...all for fRee". What a difference one > letter makes :) > > Tyler > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From fitzke at lat-lon.de Tue Sep 28 11:33:14 2004 From: fitzke at lat-lon.de (Jens Fitzke) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:33:14 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Space Conference on Free GIS Software (German language only) Message-ID: <41592FDA.7040402@lat-lon.de> All - Business Geomatics, the German GIS "newspaper" has arranged an open space conference on Free GIS Software 10th/11th November 2004 in Bad Soden (near Frankfurt). The remainder of this e-Mail gives some background information on this promising event which will be held *in German language only*. The conference web site is http://www.business-geomatics.com/konferenz/index.html. - Jens Liebe FreeGISler, die nachfolgende Veranstaltungsankuendigung der Business Geomatics scheint es mir wert zu sein, sie auch ueber diesen Verteiler an Sie weiterzuleiten. Mehrfachzustellungen bitte ich zu entschuldigen. Bei der Gelegenheit erlaube ich mir darauf hinzuweisen, dass Sie die vielfaeltige Palette der derzeit verfuegbaren Freie Software-Produkte im GI-Bereich auf der Intergeo in Augenschein nehmen koennen. lat/lon, Intevation und GDF freuen sich ueber Ihren Besuch am Stand B6.130. Beste Gruesse aus Bonn Jens Fitzke #################################### Während Freie Software sich in Mainstream-IT zuletzt immer überzeugender durchsetzt, sind in der Geoinformatik die Einschätzungen noch geteilt. Sind GRASS, UMN Mapserver, deegree & Co. denn nun ausgereifte Anwendungen auf Basis stabiler Technologie? Oder ist das alles längst nicht hinreichend und schon gar nicht praxistauglich? Fakt ist: Es gibt bereits zahlreiche überzeugende GIS-Anwendungen auf Basis freier Software im deutschsprachigen Raum. Das ist eigentlich Grund genug, um bei zukünftigen Investitionsentscheidungen FreeGIS zumindest in Erwägung zu ziehen. Zugleich bleiben zahlreiche Fragen offen. Um diese zu klären, gibt es jetzt das definitive Forum zum Thema. Fachleute, Anwender und Interessenten treffen sich am 10./11. November zur Open Space Konferenz, um alle Fragen rund um FreeGIS zu erörtern. Die Konferenzform ist ideal, um Experten, potenzielle Kooperationspartner, Kunden oder Dienstleister zu finden – und dabei innerhalb kürzester Zeit einen Überblick über den Stand der Dinge in FreeGIS zu erhalten. Open Space ist eine zielorientiert optimierte Konferenzform. Statt Vorträgen oder Podiumsdiskussionen werden ALLE Teilnehmer in höchstem Maße aktiviert. Sie selbst bringen ihre Fragen und Kompetenzen als Themen in die Konferenz ein. So entsteht eine äußerst intensive Arbeitsatmosphäre, in der wirklich alle anstehenden Fragen geklärt werden können. Man findet stets die "richtigen" Menschen, knüpft Netzwerke und initiiert Projekte, die weit über den Open Space hinausgehen. Die Teilnahmegebühr für die zweitägige Veranstaltung beträgt inklusive Übernachtung und Verpflegung 795,00 EUR. Bei Anmeldung bis einschließlich 8.10.2004 reduziert sie sich auf 595,00 EUR. Weitere Informationen und Anmeldung unter www.business-geomatics.com. Auskünfte und Rückfragen bitte unter konferenz at business-geomatics.com, oder telefonisch unter +49 221 921 825-0. #################################### -- l a t / l o n GmbH Meckenheimer Allee 176 53115 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 732838 fax ++49 +228 732153 http://www.lat-lon.de http://www.deegree.org From jan at intevation.de Tue Sep 28 18:19:33 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:19:33 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Space Conference on Free GIS Software (German language only) In-Reply-To: <41592FDA.7040402@lat-lon.de> References: <41592FDA.7040402@lat-lon.de> Message-ID: <20040928161933.GA11225@intevation.de> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 11:33:14AM +0200, Jens Fitzke wrote: > Business Geomatics, the German GIS "newspaper" has arranged an open > space conference on Free GIS Software 10th/11th November 2004 in Bad > Soden (near Frankfurt). The remainder of this e-Mail gives some > background information on this promising event which will be held *in > German language only*. The conference web site is > http://www.business-geomatics.com/konferenz/index.html. I've finally decided to go there. The conference concept is new to me but sounds promising in principle. Maybe even some FreeGIS.org issues could be discussed there. All the best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From porfidia at apat.it Wed Sep 29 12:36:48 2004 From: porfidia at apat.it (benedetto porfidia) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:36:48 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] lingis dependecies problems Message-ID: <200409291236.48945.porfidia@apat.it> Hi all, just downloaded lingis iso image, burned and tried to install pkgs. I'm running SuSe 9.1 personal with default installation and I tried to install the whole lingis suite(checked all the flags) to avoid dependencies problems. Applications that I need are, mainly, Qgis, postgres+postgis (lwgeom)+geos. I followed all directions on how install with yast2 but it returns dependencies problems at libgdal and libxcerses. I tried many versions of rpms of qgis but others installs the program but when i try to load a shpfile, it crash immediately, so I wanted try the rpm provided by lingis. what's going wrong? --B From grass at troja.net Wed Sep 29 18:25:25 2004 From: grass at troja.net (Jens Oberender) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:25:25 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] lingis dependecies problems In-Reply-To: <200409291236.48945.porfidia@apat.it> References: <200409291236.48945.porfidia@apat.it> Message-ID: <20040929182525.10f41f0a@didge.troja.net> Hi benedetto > just downloaded lingis iso image, burned and tried to install pkgs. > I'm running SuSe 9.1 personal with default installation > and I tried to install the whole lingis suite(checked all the flags) to > avoid dependencies problems. > Applications that I need are, mainly, Qgis, postgres+postgis > (lwgeom)+geos. I followed all directions on how install with yast2 but > it returns dependencies problems at libgdal and libxcerses. > I tried many versions of rpms of qgis but others installs the program > but when i try to load a shpfile, it crash immediately, so I wanted try > the rpm provided by lingis. > what's going wrong? Looks like some of the needed rpms are not on the Personal CDs. You can add one of the SUSE mirrors as ftp installation source, then Yast2 should download the needed packages from there. Mirrorlist: http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/ftp/int_mirrors.html Example path: ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/distributions/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.1 Description: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2002/07/yast2_ftp80.html If you have more problems, just write me personal. Ciao, Jens From lists at webmapit.com.br Wed Sep 29 21:07:15 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:07:15 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees Message-ID: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Hi all, I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographies to count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area. The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean, there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for various classification algorithms... Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that? thanks in advance. Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br UIN: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From cavallini at faunalia.it Thu Sep 30 07:23:34 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:23:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees In-Reply-To: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> References: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Message-ID: <200409300723.51244.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 grass 5.7 pc At 21:07, mercoled? 29 settembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably written: > Hi all, > > I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographies > to count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area. > > The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean, > there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for various > classification algorithms... > > Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that? > > thanks in advance. > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > UIN: 303747254 > > Treinamento em UMN MapServer - > http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer > Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum > > ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBW5hh/NedwLUzIr4RAqaFAKCW9FrHXdM8SvcyhlNYGXyIDq6UrwCgtfi9 JM7jzslMzVccxKh0+oF3G7Q= =2c7v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From landconsult at freenet.de Thu Sep 30 16:31:17 2004 From: landconsult at freenet.de (landconsult@freenet.de) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:31:17 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees References: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <200409300723.51244.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <415C18B5.1050208@freenet.de> Another free image classification software (for satellite images, maybe not adequate for high resolution aerial photographs ...) is Silvics. It doesn?t include GIS functianlity ... http://eurolandscape.jrc.it/forest/silvics/ Markus Paolo Cavallini schrieb: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >grass 5.7 >pc > >At 21:07, mercoled? 29 settembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably >written: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographies >>to count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area. >> >>The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean, >>there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for various >>classification algorithms... >> >>Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that? >> >>thanks in advance. >> >>Eduardo Patto Kanegae >>http://www.webmapit.com.br >>UIN: 303747254 >> >>Treinamento em UMN MapServer - >>http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer >>Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum >> >>***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Freegis-list mailing list >>Freegis-list at intevation.de >>https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list >> >> > >- -- >Paolo Cavallini >cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it >Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 >GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html >https://www.biglumber.com >Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFBW5hh/NedwLUzIr4RAqaFAKCW9FrHXdM8SvcyhlNYGXyIDq6UrwCgtfi9 >JM7jzslMzVccxKh0+oF3G7Q= >=2c7v >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040930/a7fc18ed/attachment.html From landconsult at freenet.de Thu Sep 30 16:35:26 2004 From: landconsult at freenet.de (landconsult@freenet.de) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:35:26 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees References: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <200409300723.51244.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <415C19AE.4080204@freenet.de> If I understood you, Eduardo right, you need a image processing software to detect the crown of single trees in your infrared image. Well, if Grass 5.7 can relly do this, please let me know, because I doubt, that there is a free image processing system to delineate tree crowns .... e.cognition is a commercial software package that has been developed to classify images using object and knowledge based algorithms. There is a derivate of it called forester, co-developed by the Forstry Commision in the UK, but the standard version of e.cognition and the forester are too expensive (unfortunately more than some 20K Euros .... but I wouldn?t mention this commercial software here, if the idea behind it wouldn?t be really good and convincing ...) Nevertheless e.cognition is offering a trial version (I think it is limited to a certain size of the files to be processed), and maybe it is good enough to help you with your problem. http://www.definiens-imaging.com/down/trial.htm Markus Paolo Cavallini schrieb: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >grass 5.7 >pc > >At 21:07, mercoled? 29 settembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably >written: > > >>Hi all, >> >>I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographies >>to count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area. >> >>The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean, >>there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for various >>classification algorithms... >> >>Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that? >> >>thanks in advance. >> >>Eduardo Patto Kanegae >>http://www.webmapit.com.br >>UIN: 303747254 >> >>Treinamento em UMN MapServer - >>http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer >>Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum >> >>***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Freegis-list mailing list >>Freegis-list at intevation.de >>https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list >> >> > >- -- >Paolo Cavallini >cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it >Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 >GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html >https://www.biglumber.com >Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFBW5hh/NedwLUzIr4RAqaFAKCW9FrHXdM8SvcyhlNYGXyIDq6UrwCgtfi9 >JM7jzslMzVccxKh0+oF3G7Q= >=2c7v >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you sure it is Free Software? http://www.freegis.org/about.en.html Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. > It doesn?t include GIS functianlity ... > [1]http://eurolandscape.jrc.it/forest/silvics/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040930/b8c2cdd8/attachment.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Sep 30 19:09:32 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:09:32 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees In-Reply-To: <415C19AE.4080204@freenet.de> References: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <200409300723.51244.cavallini@faunalia.it> <415C19AE.4080204@freenet.de> Message-ID: <20040930170932.GG31040@intevation.de> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 04:35:26PM +0200, landconsult at freenet.de wrote: > If I understood you, Eduardo right, you need a image processing > software to detect the crown of single trees in your infrared image. > Well, if Grass 5.7 can relly do this, please let me know, because I > doubt, that there is a free image processing system to delineate tree > crowns .... > e.cognition is a commercial software package that has been developed > to classify images using object and knowledge based algorithms. There > is a derivate of it called forester, co-developed by the Forstry > Commision in the UK, but the standard version of e.cognition and the > forester are too expensive (unfortunately more than some 20K Euros (Note that Free Software can also be "commercial". http://intevation.de/%7Ejan/infos/dont_oppose_commercial_and_free_software.en.html ) > .... but I wouldn?t mention this commercial software here, if the > idea behind it wouldn?t be really good and convincing ...) > Nevertheless e.cognition is offering a trial version (I think it is > limited to a certain size of the files to be processed), and maybe it > is good enough to help you with your problem. GRASS is quite powerful and can be considered commercial, as some people sell support and others use it for business. I do not know about how good it is for the task of delineate tree crowns, but if it is not up to it yet, it can be improved. And if someone does not want to spend the money for the proprietary software, why not contracting someone to extend GRASS for the task? Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040930/7698f4e7/attachment.bin From tim.greenhow at minpost.nu Thu Sep 30 09:55:02 2004 From: tim.greenhow at minpost.nu (Tim Greenhow) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:55:02 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS Message-ID: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." But one, trying to sell me a particularly expensive machine, tells me that of all the copumters he has on stock, this is the only one that has been tested and certified suitable for Linux. Others will have problems with certain Linux commands and functions, he tells me. He assures me that he is not referring to CPU speed, harddisk or RAM size. My question therefore is simply:: what are the basic hardware requirements needed for running Linux? What am I supposed to check for, and how different are the requirements of different Linux versions? Note that I would like to try a variety of GIS programs, among them GRASS. Any help would be gratefully received. Tim From dmorissette at dmsolutions.ca Thu Sep 30 20:42:52 2004 From: dmorissette at dmsolutions.ca (Daniel Morissette) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:42:52 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS In-Reply-To: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> References: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> Message-ID: <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> Tim Greenhow wrote: > I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am > truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop > computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine > can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." > But one, trying to sell me a particularly expensive machine, tells me > that of all the copumters he has on stock, this is the only one that has > been tested and certified suitable for Linux. Others will have problems > with certain Linux commands and functions, he tells me. He assures me > that he is not referring to CPU speed, harddisk or RAM size. > My question therefore is simply:: what are the basic hardware > requirements needed for running Linux? What am I supposed to check for, > and how different are the requirements of different Linux versions? Note > that I would like to try a variety of GIS programs, among them GRASS. I can't speak for the GRASS requirements specifically (I think it should run on any decent machine but I may be wrong), but with respect to running Linux on various laptop models, you'll find tons of useful information at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Most of the times the problems you'll encounter with Linux on laptops is lack of support for power management (hibernation won't work) and possible lack of good drivers for the laptop's builtin modem (WinModem, bad bad), sound card (sometimes), wireless adapter (often), and sometimes lack of an optimized X11 driver for the display. In the worst case scenarios, all of the above will be hard to find or unavailable, but with more recent Linux distributions, and more recent laptops that seems to be standardizing to well-known hardware, you may be able to just load the install CD's, click-click-click and almost everything will be magically be detected and run properly. The best is to look for the model/brand that you plan to purchase on linux-laptop.net before you buy. Daniel -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Morissette dmorissette at dmsolutions.ca DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------ From jan at intevation.de Thu Sep 30 21:01:49 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:01:49 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS In-Reply-To: <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> References: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <20040930190149.GD4923@intevation.de> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > Tim Greenhow wrote: > >I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am > >truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop > >computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine > >can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." > >But one, trying to sell me a particularly expensive machine, tells me > >that of all the copumters he has on stock, this is the only one that has > >been tested and certified suitable for Linux. Others will have problems > >with certain Linux commands and functions, he tells me. He assures me > >that he is not referring to CPU speed, harddisk or RAM size. > >My question therefore is simply:: what are the basic hardware > >requirements needed for running Linux? What am I supposed to check for, > >and how different are the requirements of different Linux versions? Note > >that I would like to try a variety of GIS programs, among them GRASS. > > I can't speak for the GRASS requirements specifically (I think it should > run on any decent machine but I may be wrong), but with respect to > running Linux on various laptop models, you'll find tons of useful > information at: > > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > > Most of the times the problems you'll encounter with Linux on laptops is > lack of support for power management (hibernation won't work) and > possible lack of good drivers for the laptop's builtin modem (WinModem, > bad bad), sound card (sometimes), wireless adapter (often), and > sometimes lack of an optimized X11 driver for the display. > > In the worst case scenarios, all of the above will be hard to find or > unavailable, but with more recent Linux distributions, and more recent > laptops that seems to be standardizing to well-known hardware, you may > be able to just load the install CD's, click-click-click and almost > everything will be magically be detected and run properly. > > The best is to look for the model/brand that you plan to purchase on > linux-laptop.net before you buy. another nice test is to carry a recent Knoppix CD to the shop and boot it. You can at least find out whether all the elements are supported by some Linux drivers. If you then buy it and install you prefereed Linux distribution it might work well out of the box or it is not as current as the Knoppix. In the latter case you have at least the confidence that the drivers are available in principle when you go looking for them ;-) Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From dallas.masters at colorado.edu Thu Sep 30 21:10:07 2004 From: dallas.masters at colorado.edu (Dallas Masters) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:10:07 -0600 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS In-Reply-To: <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> References: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <415C5A0F.2080000@colorado.edu> Daniel Morissette wrote: > The best is to look for the model/brand that you plan to purchase on > linux-laptop.net before you buy. I just purchased a new laptop for running Linux. Looking at linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org and finding laptops which many people have tried or for which some people have had little problems is the best method. My search narrowed to the Sony VAIO and IBM models. Both had good Linux support, lots of folks using them under Linux, and good quality. I finally went with an IBM T41 because I liked the 3 year warranty (my last laptop, a Sager 8500V packed with great features and surprisingly well-supported under Linux had a bad motherboard that finally gave up under loads.). Dallas