From mysoorpa at yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 11:28:45 2004 From: mysoorpa at yahoo.com (gunavant rane) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] unsubcribe me In-Reply-To: <20040930184305.338F5102C2C@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: <20041001092845.33898.qmail@web53807.mail.yahoo.com> freegis-list-request at intevation.de wrote:Send Freegis-list mailing list submissions to freegis-list at intevation.de To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freegis-list-request at intevation.de You can reach the person managing the list at freegis-list-owner at intevation.de When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Freegis-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: free gis for counting trees (landconsult at freenet.de) 2. Re: free gis for counting trees (landconsult at freenet.de) 3. Re: free gis for counting trees (Bernhard Reiter) 4. Re: free gis for counting trees (Bernhard Reiter) 5. hardware requirements for linux-based GIS (Tim Greenhow) 6. Re: hardware requirements for linux-based GIS (Daniel Morissette) > ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:31:17 +0200 To: freegis-list at intevation.de From: "landconsult at freenet.de" Another free image classification software (for satellite images, maybe not adequate for high resolution aerial photographs ...) is Silvics. It doesn´t include GIS functianlity ... http://eurolandscape.jrc.it/forest/silvics/ Markus Paolo Cavallini schrieb: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1grass 5.7pcAt 21:07, mercoledì 29 settembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably written: Hi all,I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographiesto count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area.The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean,there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for variousclassification algorithms...Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that?thanks in advance.Eduardo Patto Kanegaehttp://www.webmapit.com.brUIN: 303747254Treinamento em UMN MapServer -http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver Fórum MapServerBrasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message ***_______________________________________________Freegis-list mailing listFreegis-list at intevation.dehttps://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list - -- Paolo Cavallinicavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.itPiazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.comOnly free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)iD8DBQFBW5hh/NedwLUzIr4RAqaFAKCW9FrHXdM8SvcyhlNYGXyIDq6UrwCgtfi9JM7jzslMzVccxKh0+oF3G7Q==2c7v-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----_______________________________________________Freegis-list mailing listFreegis-list at intevation.dehttps://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:35:26 +0200 To: freegis-list at intevation.de From: "landconsult at freenet.de" If I understood you, Eduardo right, you need a image processing software to detect the crown of single trees in your infrared image. Well, if Grass 5.7 can relly do this, please let me know, because I doubt, that there is a free image processing system to delineate tree crowns .... e.cognition is a commercial software package that has been developed to classify images using object and knowledge based algorithms. There is a derivate of it called forester, co-developed by the Forstry Commision in the UK, but the standard version of e.cognition and the forester are too expensive (unfortunately more than some 20K Euros .... but I wouldn´t mention this commercial software here, if the idea behind it wouldn´t be really good and convincing ...) Nevertheless e.cognition is offering a trial version (I think it is limited to a certain size of the files to be processed), and maybe it is good enough to help you with your problem. http://www.definiens-imaging.com/down/trial.htm Markus Paolo Cavallini schrieb: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1grass 5.7pcAt 21:07, mercoledì 29 settembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably written: Hi all,I need to do some tests using high resolution aero-infrared photographiesto count the number of trees for a given eucalyptus forest area.The hard thing is how to count trees when they are not so young? I mean,there are some case where 2 or 3 trees sounds like 1 only tree for variousclassification algorithms...Can anybody recommend me a free gis that could do that?thanks in advance.Eduardo Patto Kanegaehttp://www.webmapit.com.brUIN: 303747254Treinamento em UMN MapServer -http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver Fórum MapServerBrasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message ***_______________________________________________Freegis-list mailing listFreegis-list at intevation.dehttps://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list - -- Paolo Cavallinicavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.itPiazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.comOnly free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)iD8DBQFBW5hh/NedwLUzIr4RAqaFAKCW9FrHXdM8SvcyhlNYGXyIDq6UrwCgtfi9JM7jzslMzVccxKh0+oF3G7Q==2c7v-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----_______________________________________________Freegis-list mailing listFreegis-list at intevation.dehttps://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:05:09 +0200 To: freegis-list at intevation.de From: Bernhard Reiter On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 04:31:17PM +0200, landconsult at freenet.de wrote: > Another free image classification software (for satellite images, > maybe not adequate for high resolution aerial photographs ...) is > Silvics. The page itself does not offer a license or source code. Are you sure it is Free Software? http://www.freegis.org/about.en.html Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. > It doesnŽt include GIS functianlity ... > [1]http://eurolandscape.jrc.it/forest/silvics/ > ATTACHMENT part 3.3.2 application/pgp-signature > ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:09:32 +0200 To: freegis-list at intevation.de From: Bernhard Reiter On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 04:35:26PM +0200, landconsult at freenet.de wrote: > If I understood you, Eduardo right, you need a image processing > software to detect the crown of single trees in your infrared image. > Well, if Grass 5.7 can relly do this, please let me know, because I > doubt, that there is a free image processing system to delineate tree > crowns .... > e.cognition is a commercial software package that has been developed > to classify images using object and knowledge based algorithms. There > is a derivate of it called forester, co-developed by the Forstry > Commision in the UK, but the standard version of e.cognition and the > forester are too expensive (unfortunately more than some 20K Euros (Note that Free Software can also be "commercial". http://intevation.de/%7Ejan/infos/dont_oppose_commercial_and_free_software.en.html ) > .... but I wouldnŽt mention this commercial software here, if the > idea behind it wouldnŽt be really good and convincing ...) > Nevertheless e.cognition is offering a trial version (I think it is > limited to a certain size of the files to be processed), and maybe it > is good enough to help you with your problem. GRASS is quite powerful and can be considered commercial, as some people sell support and others use it for business. I do not know about how good it is for the task of delineate tree crowns, but if it is not up to it yet, it can be improved. And if someone does not want to spend the money for the proprietary software, why not contracting someone to extend GRASS for the task? Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html > ATTACHMENT part 3.4.2 application/pgp-signature > ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:55:02 +0200 To: freegis-list at intevation.de From: Tim Greenhow I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." But one, trying to sell me a particularly expensive machine, tells me that of all the copumters he has on stock, this is the only one that has been tested and certified suitable for Linux. Others will have problems with certain Linux commands and functions, he tells me. He assures me that he is not referring to CPU speed, harddisk or RAM size. My question therefore is simply:: what are the basic hardware requirements needed for running Linux? What am I supposed to check for, and how different are the requirements of different Linux versions? Note that I would like to try a variety of GIS programs, among them GRASS. Any help would be gratefully received. Tim > ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822 Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:42:52 -0400 To: Tim Greenhow CC: freegis-list at intevation.de From: Daniel Morissette Tim Greenhow wrote: > I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am > truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop > computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine > can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." > But one, trying to sell me a particularly expensive machine, tells me > that of all the copumters he has on stock, this is the only one that has > been tested and certified suitable for Linux. Others will have problems > with certain Linux commands and functions, he tells me. He assures me > that he is not referring to CPU speed, harddisk or RAM size. > My question therefore is simply:: what are the basic hardware > requirements needed for running Linux? What am I supposed to check for, > and how different are the requirements of different Linux versions? Note > that I would like to try a variety of GIS programs, among them GRASS. I can't speak for the GRASS requirements specifically (I think it should run on any decent machine but I may be wrong), but with respect to running Linux on various laptop models, you'll find tons of useful information at: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Most of the times the problems you'll encounter with Linux on laptops is lack of support for power management (hibernation won't work) and possible lack of good drivers for the laptop's builtin modem (WinModem, bad bad), sound card (sometimes), wireless adapter (often), and sometimes lack of an optimized X11 driver for the display. In the worst case scenarios, all of the above will be hard to find or unavailable, but with more recent Linux distributions, and more recent laptops that seems to be standardizing to well-known hardware, you may be able to just load the install CD's, click-click-click and almost everything will be magically be detected and run properly. The best is to look for the model/brand that you plan to purchase on linux-laptop.net before you buy. Daniel -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Morissette dmorissette at dmsolutions.ca DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041001/5e99730a/attachment.html From neteler at itc.it Fri Oct 1 11:49:23 2004 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:49:23 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS In-Reply-To: <20040930190149.GD4923@intevation.de> References: <415BBBD6.6070404@minpost.nu> <415C53AC.4000606@dmsolutions.ca> <20040930190149.GD4923@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20041001094923.GH23577@thuille.itc.it> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:01:49PM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > > Tim Greenhow wrote: > > >I am very interested in exploring open-source GIS on Linux, but I am > > >truly a newbie when it comes to Linux. In my search for a new laptop > > >computer I find some salesmen blithely tell me that "sure, this machine > > >can run Linux, though we don't normally sell it with that OS installed." [...] > > I can't speak for the GRASS requirements specifically (I think it should > > run on any decent machine but I may be wrong), Even old machines are fine. Just OpenGL support is recommended and lots of RAM for computations on large data sets (the software itself doesn't require much). [...] > another nice test is to carry a recent Knoppix CD to the shop > and boot it. You can at least find out whether all the elements > are supported by some Linux drivers. Right. And you can go further and take a Knoppix derivate containing even GRASS, Mapserver etc! Some options are listed here: http://grass.itc.it/demo.html Best Markus (Free GIS/GRASS-on-laptop users for years :-) From landconsult at freenet.de Fri Oct 1 12:14:54 2004 From: landconsult at freenet.de (landconsult@freenet.de) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:14:54 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] free gis for counting trees References: <20040929190716.24749.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <200409300723.51244.cavallini@faunalia.it> <415C18B5.1050208@freenet.de> <20040930170509.GF31040@intevation.de> Message-ID: <415D2E1E.40309@freenet.de> .... well, in this sense Silvics is probably not Free Software, the code has not been published, but maybe you can convince Niall, the developer, to contribute to the FreeGIS, project. Niall is working at the European Commission's Joint Research Center (JRC) in Italy which spending a lot of European tax money to do useful (and less useful...) research, so why not contributing to the FreeGIS project, they are also strongly engaged in the OpenGIS activities, so maybe Niall is interested (NIALL.MCCORMICK at jrc.it) .... Bernhard Reiter schrieb: >On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 04:31:17PM +0200, landconsult at freenet.de wrote: > > >> Another free image classification software (for satellite images, >> maybe not adequate for high resolution aerial photographs ...) is >> Silvics. >> >> > >The page itself does not offer a license or source code. >Are you sure it is Free Software? > >http://www.freegis.org/about.en.html > > Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, > distribute, study, change and improve the software. > > > > >> It doesnZ(t include GIS functianlity ... >> [1]http://eurolandscape.jrc.it/forest/silvics/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041001/924337ab/attachment.html From tim.greenhow at minpost.nu Sun Oct 3 20:32:09 2004 From: tim.greenhow at minpost.nu (Tim Greenhow) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:32:09 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] hardware requirements for linux-based GIS Message-ID: <416045A9.9090703@minpost.nu> I would like to publicly thank Daniel Morissette, Kevin Yam and Dave Stevens for providing helpful and useful information in response to my questions on this subject. If others have also posted items since I've seen my mail, thank you too. It is great to have access to a discussion list where questions get clear and useful answers! I will be following up the suggestions you three have provided. :-) Tim From jburnett at e-masi.com Wed Oct 6 23:03:09 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 17:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET Message-ID: <000801c4abe7$e2ad4da0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> Today I released the first version of the visual basic GIS library for .NET. Its licensed under the GNU General Public License license. http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ -Jim p.s. The old VB6 library wont be supported and developed anymore. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041006/62469afe/attachment.html From napoogle at gmail.com Thu Oct 14 11:21:29 2004 From: napoogle at gmail.com (Maurizio Napolitano) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:21:29 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] UDIG : User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS Message-ID: <49456d7404101402215a6ccf0@mail.gmail.com> UDIG is an open source spatial data viewer/editor, with special emphasis on the OpenGIS standards for internet GIS, the Web Map Server and Web Feature Server standards. UDIG will provide a common Java platform for building spatial applications with open source components. http://udig.refractions.net/ License: LGPL From cavallini at faunalia.it Mon Oct 18 13:05:06 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:05:06 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] freegis printing Message-ID: <200410181305.09420.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi, I'd like to implement printing function in QGis (as an easy way to print form GRASS) and I need to know if there is someone who is doing that already. I need also to know from users if they have some particular requirement (in http://www.faunalia.com/grass/print.html) we set up a provisional list of user requirements) and any ideas for some graphic interfaces. All the best. Michela Corda corda at cli.di.unipi.it - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBc6Ni/NedwLUzIr4RAvQQAJsG2RGqGE5M497T3uy6jDkjG1b0mgCeNqx/ cm7ZGy8uu2vEGY4bVqpPf7M= =agRl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de Wed Oct 20 18:39:46 2004 From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:39:46 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] No Software Patents In-Reply-To: <200410181305.09420.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200410181305.09420.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <417694D2.1030804@ccgis.de> Sorry for the cross posting. There was some on and off discussion on software patents before. Find a comprehensive multilingual summary here: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ Again I must say that software patents are NOT a problem for Free Software and Open Source only, but for all software development, including closed source. It just seems like the FS community is a little more receptive to recognizing strategic trouble. :-) Best regards, Arnulf. From jburnett at e-masi.com Wed Oct 20 20:00:45 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] No Software Patents References: <200410181305.09420.cavallini@faunalia.it> <417694D2.1030804@ccgis.de> Message-ID: <02c301c4b6ce$b98a18d0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> Thanks, that was very interesting. Think SCO will be a Campaign Partner? Anyone developing open source software should read the content of that site. -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnulf Christl" To: ; "mapbender list" ; "FreeGIS" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: [Freegis-list] No Software Patents > Sorry for the cross posting. There was some on and off discussion on > software patents before. Find a comprehensive multilingual summary here: > http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ > > Again I must say that software patents are NOT a problem for Free > Software and Open Source only, but for all software development, > including closed source. It just seems like the FS community is a little > more receptive to recognizing strategic trouble. > > :-) > > Best regards, > Arnulf. > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From jan at intevation.de Wed Oct 20 21:34:26 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:34:26 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Best Practice award for a web mapping application based on Free Software Message-ID: <20041020193426.GC29539@intevation.de> Hi, recently a Free Software Best Practice Award was granted to a number of projects in Germany. A Web-Mapping application of the city of Munich and IHK Munich placed third in the category 'Public Sector': [ sorry, only in german: ] http://soss.lightwerk.com/content/award/alleprojekte/index_ger.html#ihk http://soss.lightwerk.com/content/award/index_ger.html Congratulations to Markus and Andreas, the developers of this Portal which is using UMN MapServer! Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From cavallini at faunalia.it Fri Oct 22 12:55:16 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:55:16 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] MySQL goes spatial Message-ID: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Does anybody have experience on the spatial extension of freegis? Info at: http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/4.1/gis-with-mysql.html especially interesting would be a comparison with postGIS/GEOS. All the best. pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBeOcU/NedwLUzIr4RAhqbAKC6VceTzbMGGS20yVm/TL/Qxl3FDQCeKAj3 ju2a+JNegbb6V0nQc/tI8XQ= =j8OH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jan at intevation.de Fri Oct 22 13:10:50 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:10:50 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] MySQL goes spatial In-Reply-To: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <20041022111050.GA23931@intevation.de> On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 12:55:16PM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Does anybody have experience on the spatial extension of freegis? > Info at: > http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/4.1/gis-with-mysql.html > especially interesting would be a comparison with postGIS/GEOS. Read here: http://postgis.refractions.net/pipermail/postgis-users/2003-June/002651.html for some insights. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From geoffrey.rowland at noaa.gov Fri Oct 22 13:26:10 2004 From: geoffrey.rowland at noaa.gov (Geoffrey Rowland) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:26:10 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] JUMP (Open Source / Free GIS program) Message-ID: <4178EE52.9010903@noaa.gov> Not sure if this has been discussed here before, but I recently came across JUMP, which is a suite of open source applications that "provide an extensible API and GUI for viewing and manipulating sptial data-sets". It opens and saves as both shape files and GML files....very nice http://www.jump-project.org/ -- Geoffrey Rowland Technical Officer Climate Information Project NOAA Research Office of Global Programs http://www.cip.ogp.noaa.gov Contractor, RGII Technologies, Inc., a Computer Horizons Company http://www.rg2.com Phone: 301-427-2089x186 Fax : 301-427-2082 geoffrey.rowland at noaa.gov From hubert.froehlich at bvv.bayern.de Fri Oct 22 13:33:02 2004 From: hubert.froehlich at bvv.bayern.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hubert_Fr=F6hlich?=) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:33:02 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] MySQL goes spatial In-Reply-To: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <4178EFEE.3070205@bvv.bayern.de> Hi Paolo, > Hi all. > Does anybody have experience on the spatial extension of freegis? > Info at: > http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/4.1/gis-with-mysql.html > especially interesting would be a comparison with postGIS/GEOS. > All the best. > pc no experience, but ... .. when I read the article above, I found In addition to the above, there is also a need for GIS metadata, and in some cases for using different coordinate systems. MySQL currently supports a planar coordinate system. The other major coordinate system in use is the geocentric one, i.e. a coordinate system on the Earth's surface, which is not yet supported by MySQL. This might be quite a big practical restriction. The earth *** is not a planar surface *** , and lots of esp. numerical calculations, e.g. * area calculations, such as Area() in postgis * topological questions (think of functions e.g. PointOnSurface() in postgis) have to respect that, otherwise your results are false. You always depend on a special spatial reference system (SRS) , and there are lots of them ... Of course, this does not hold for low accuracy and small areas etc, but you have to be aware and in case of doubt leave these calculations to an application. (BTW: How are these cases handled in PostGIS: Does PostGIS calculate in a planar way or truly on the ellipsoid chosen with the SRS? I screened the postgis docs and the OGC specs, but I did not get the information) Greetings, Hubert _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr.-Ing. Hubert Fr?hlich Bezirksfinanzdirektion M?nchen Alexandrastr. 3, D-80538 M?nchen, GERMANY Tel. :+49 (0)89 / 2190 - 2980 Fax :+49 (0)89 / 2190 - 2997 hubert dot froehlich at bvv dot bayern dot de From Silke.Reimer at intevation.de Fri Oct 22 13:46:38 2004 From: Silke.Reimer at intevation.de (Silke Reimer) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:46:38 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET In-Reply-To: <000801c4abe7$e2ad4da0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> References: <000801c4abe7$e2ad4da0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> Message-ID: <20041022114638.GH30783@intevation.de> Hi Jim, On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:03:09PM -0400, Jim Burnett wrote: > Today I released the first version of the visual basic GIS library > for .NET. Its licensed under the GNU General Public License license. > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ Thank you for your contribution! I did a short look on your projects and couldn't find any possibility to get the source code of your project. This is a requirement to be classified as Free Software. See for example the preamble of the GPL: ------------------------ [...] For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. [...] ------------------------- Please add a link to your source code (or give me a hint where I can get it) and then I will check it again. Many greetings, Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Its licensed under the GNU General Public License license. > > > > http://www.visualbasicgis.com/ > > Thank you for your contribution! > [...] > > Please add a link to your source code (or give me a hint where I can > get it) and then I will check it again. Please ignore my last email concerning this thread. I learned now that the source code is indeed available in some of your zip-files but that they are in a .NET-specific format so this is the reason why I couldn't open them. Sorry for the confusion. Again many thanks for your contribution and have a nice weekend, Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is "availible" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silke Reimer" To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From jburnett at e-masi.com Fri Oct 22 14:52:54 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:52:54 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET References: <000801c4abe7$e2ad4da0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> <20041022114638.GH30783@intevation.de> Message-ID: <002c01c4b836$0c7a4160$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> Oh one more thing. If you goto the site http://www.visualbasicgis.com the link to the source is on there. Its right before you download the demo. Thanks again -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silke Reimer" To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From jburnett at e-masi.com Fri Oct 22 14:59:39 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET References: <000801c4abe7$e2ad4da0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP><20041022114638.GH30783@intevation.de> <20041022124810.GK30783@intevation.de> Message-ID: <007c01c4b836$fd6b02d0$ee01a8c0@BURNETTXP> Your welcome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silke Reimer" To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Visual Basic GIS for .NET > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From cavallini at faunalia.it Fri Oct 22 15:21:18 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:21:18 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] MySQL goes spatial In-Reply-To: <4178EFEE.3070205@bvv.bayern.de> References: <200410221255.20989.cavallini@faunalia.it> <4178EFEE.3070205@bvv.bayern.de> Message-ID: <200410221521.21138.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Many thanks. Very fast and good replies (another example of the advantages of the open approach to software!). pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBeQlO/NedwLUzIr4RAvSaAKCWWrw9xjNhBCh/9S6uhSL6rtL4cACgu9Tt 1VvbMFx2pR1LYWq/kUaDs4U= =7WFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lists at webmapit.com.br Fri Oct 22 18:37:55 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:37:55 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] how to publish 3D-views using via web? Message-ID: <41793763.5070908@webmapit.com.br> Is there any free software technology that could put raster files over DEM files using the web? ps.: user must be able to move mouse and then get a diferent point of view of the 3D window. best -- Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Servi?os em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software UIN: 303747254 +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From fgnievinski at terra.com.br Fri Oct 22 23:04:26 2004 From: fgnievinski at terra.com.br (Felipe G. Nievinski) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:04:26 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: DebianGis Message-ID: <417975DA.2020400@terra.com.br> (sorry for cross-posting) Debian GIS Sub-Project started. Francesco Lovergine [5]announced the launch of DebianGis as new Debian sub-project. The goal is to create a [6]custom Debian distribution oriented to serious [7]Geographical Information Systems (GIS) users and applications. Coordination currently takes place on [8]Alioth. 5. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/10/msg00007.html 6. http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian 7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gis 8. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-grass-general From viveka.weiley at gmail.com Sat Oct 23 06:47:28 2004 From: viveka.weiley at gmail.com (Viveka Weiley) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:47:28 +1000 Subject: [Freegis-list] how to publish 3D-views using via web? In-Reply-To: <41793763.5070908@webmapit.com.br> References: <41793763.5070908@webmapit.com.br> Message-ID: <3517424c04102221473afeaa5a@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:37:55 -0200, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > Is there any free software technology that could put raster files over > DEM files using the web? > > ps.: user must be able to move mouse and then get a diferent point of > view of the 3D window. Why, yes :) http://www.surak.com.au/~chris/vrml/RezIndex.html Rez is part of 3map, a Free/Open Source assemblage of tools for geospatial VR. It's behind http://www.planet-earth.org This is the work of Chris Thorne; our company is called Ping. http://www.ping.com.au It will output a multiresolution VRML file, suitable for viewing in web browsers as you suggest. I'd be interested to know what you use it for. Regards, V. > > best > > -- > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > Treinamento & Servi?os em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software > UIN: 303747254 > +55(16)9994-2928 > > ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > -- Viveka Weiley, Karmanaut.http://www.karmanaut.com For a Free Geospace: http://www.planet-earth.org VR on the Mac: http://www.MacWeb3D.org From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Oct 25 19:57:12 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:57:12 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] JUMP In-Reply-To: <4178EE52.9010903@noaa.gov> References: <4178EE52.9010903@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <20041025175712.GB19953@intevation.de> On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 07:26:10AM -0400, Geoffrey Rowland wrote: > Not sure if this has been discussed here before, but I recently came > across JUMP, which is a suite of open source applications that "provide > an extensible API and GUI for viewing and manipulating sptial > data-sets". It opens and saves as both shape files and GML > files....very nice > > http://www.jump-project.org/ http://www.freegis.org/details.en.html?name=JUMP+Unified+Mapping+Platform known Free Software in there since about a year. ;) But be aware of the Java-trap: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041025/a0cf9c2e/attachment.bin From lists at webmapit.com.br Fri Oct 29 16:17:40 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:17:40 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Google Acquires Keyhole Corp - a Mountain View, Calif.-based digital mapping company. Message-ID: <41825104.9020503@webmapit.com.br> original at http://www.google.com/press/pressrel/keyhole.html Return to Google homepage. Google Press Release Home About Google *Press Center * *Media Resources* *Press Releases* Images and B-roll Media Coverage Case Studies Permissions *Corporate Overview* Fast Facts History Timeline Executive Bios Awards *Products & Technology * Product Descriptions Technology Overview Google Labs *Financial Info* Investor Relations *Corporate Citizenship* Governance Software Principles Privacy Policy *Google Acquires Keyhole Corp* MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. - October 27, 2004 - Google Inc. (Nasdaq: GOOG) today announced it acquired Keyhole Corp., a Mountain View, Calif.-based digital mapping company. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. "With Keyhole, you can fly like a superhero from your computer at home to a street corner somewhere else in the world - or find a local hospital, map a road trip or measure the distance between two points," said Jonathan Rosenberg, vice president, Product Management. "This acquisition gives Google users a powerful new search tool, enabling users to view 3D images of any place on earth as well as tap a rich database of roads, businesses and many other points of interest. Keyhole is a valuable addition to Google's efforts to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." With an Internet connection, users enter an address or other location information and Keyhole's software accesses the database and takes them to a digital image of that location on their computer screen. The interactive software then gives users many options, including the ability to zoom in from space-level to street-level, tilt and rotate the view or search for other information such as hotels, parks, ATMs or subways. Unlike traditional mapping technologies, Keyhole creates a dynamic 3D interface for geographic information. Keyhole's technology combines a multi-terabyte database of mapping information and images collected from satellites and airplanes with easy-to-use software. Google also announced, effective immediately, a price reduction for Keyhole 2 LT from $69.95 to $29.95. Keyhole was founded in 2001. Keyhole customers include consumers, large and small businesses and public agencies. Current Keyhole users will benefit from the expanded resources and operational scale made possible by the integration into Google. Their service will continue uninterrupted. For a free, seven-day trial of Keyhole, please go to www.keyhole.com . *About Google Inc. * Google's innovative search technologies connect millions of people around the world with information every day. Founded in 1998 by Stanford Ph.D. students Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Google today is a top web property in all major global markets. Google's targeted advertising program, which is the largest and fastest growing in the industry, provides businesses of all sizes with measurable results, while enhancing the overall web experience for users. Google is headquartered in Silicon Valley with offices throughout North America, Europe, and Asia. For more information, visit www.google.com . ?2004 Google - Home - About Google - We're Hiring - Site Map -- Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software UIN: 303747254 +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** -- Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software UIN: 303747254 +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From jo at frot.org Fri Oct 29 18:03:25 2004 From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:03:25 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] proposed EC Directive on spatial data infrastructure Message-ID: <20041029160325.GF29470@vishnu.tridity.org> hello, other EU open-source GIS hackers might be interested in the upcoming proposed EC Directive on establishing a common spatial data infrastructure. It lives at http://ec-gis.org/inspire/ , is in the committee codecision stages right now and may get first reading in the EU parliament in spring 2005. http://space.frot.org/docs/inspire_directive.html is my analysis of the worst bits. INSPIRE ensures public 'viewing' of all data freely available. (but not street/address data, which was removed from the original thematic data list) Licensing and cost terms for state-collected data will be imposed by the European Commission and their expert advisory group whih is conveniently composed of natioanl mapping agency representatives. Work is well underway at http://eurogeographics.org/ - the Directive is taken for granted. http://space.frot.org/docs/uninspired.html are my notes towards an overview document on 'why the INSPIRE terms are broken, and why European geographic data should be free' which i'd like to get in front of sympathetic national and Euro MPs. The geodata licensing industry is pretty much stitched up by the semiprivatised agency here in the UK, they are leading the EU effort, the government environment agency is lobbying industry to support the Directive, and i'm not sure how much hope i have. Elsewhere in the EU the public sector understanding of open source and standards seems better (e.g. the netherlands, germany, denmark) and perhaps better opposition to this propsed Directive, and the imposition of a common cost recovery policy for spatial data, can be managed. Please, at least, consider contacting your national representatives on the Environment Committee in the EU parliament, and a national MP who may have an understanding of what is at stake here. I am looking to get organisations affected by this to make statements, and try to collate research about different countries policies and attitudes towards open geographic data, and how it's affected by the Public Sector Information Directive, on a multilingual wiki... i know this is just another skirmish in the digital rights offensive, but i really think we might have a chance if we fight it hard. -jo -- http://frot.org/devlog/ From dgadoury at dmsolutions.ca Fri Oct 29 22:00:14 2004 From: dgadoury at dmsolutions.ca (Dean Gadoury) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] wind barb font Message-ID: <4182A14E.7050700@dmsolutions.ca> Hi, Does anyone know of a font set that contains wind barbs that is completely free of restrictions on distribution? I know that ESRI has one but I don't know the license restrictions on it. Here is an example of the kind of wind barbs I'm looking for: http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/info/about_windbarb.html Dean From pcreso at pcreso.com Sun Oct 31 01:04:21 2004 From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? Message-ID: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? I know the GRASS book is there, v2 just out... With Open Source GIS suites available, Open-EV, FGS, LinGis, Debian GIS, etc, including GRASS, PostGIS, R, GDAL, QGIS, JUMP, GEOS, Proj4, mapserver, deegree, Chameleon, etc., all interoperating as a GIS suite with data storage/management, local access/analysis/visualisation & LAN/WAN/web delivery tools, has anyone considered a text on OS GIS, with perhaps a chapter per package, & some history/background? Brent Wood From dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca Sun Oct 31 19:09:59 2004 From: dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca (Dave McIlhagga) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:09:59 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices Message-ID: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm looking for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. I've searched around and haven't found anything. If this doesn't already exist -- is there anyone interested in working towards development of this technology? I'd be happy to hear of any ideas people on the list may have. Dave -- Dave McIlhagga DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca EMail : dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca From bartvde at xs4all.nl Sun Oct 31 21:41:52 2004 From: bartvde at xs4all.nl (Bart van den Eijnden) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:41:52 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices In-Reply-To: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> References: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: Hi Dave, maybe this is of interest: http://grass.itc.it/grasshandheld.html which I found through the following site: http://gis.vsb.cz/Zamestnanci/Stankovic/stankovicEN.htm Best regards, Bart On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:09:59 -0500, Dave McIlhagga wrote: > Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open > source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm looking > for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. > > I've searched around and haven't found anything. > > If this doesn't already exist -- is there anyone interested in working > towards development of this technology? I'd be happy to hear of any > ideas people on the list may have. > > Dave -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/