From lists at webmapit.com.br Mon Nov 1 00:01:24 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:01:24 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS web router Message-ID: <20041031230124.4770.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Hello, does anybody recommend any free software API for computing routes at web enviroment ? ( e.g.: PHP, Perl or Python ) thanks in advance. Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From jo at frot.org Mon Nov 1 03:33:48 2004 From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041101023348.GL29470@vishnu.tridity.org> On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:04:21PM -0700, Brent Wood wrote: > Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? > > With Open Source GIS suites available, Open-EV, FGS, LinGis, Debian GIS, etc, > including GRASS, PostGIS, R, GDAL, QGIS, JUMP, GEOS, Proj4, mapserver, deegree, our "Mapping Hacks" book, due out in february, covers maybe 2/3 of these but it's intended, as is the rest of the ORA "Hacks" series, to be web-oriented, easy for power-user types to get into, cover introductory cartographic essentials, so it may be a mild disappointment to domain specialists. http://mappinghacks.com/ (non-free words, of course :/) When Schuyler and Rich originally pitched it to ORA, it was as "Open Source GIS Essentials", but ORA decided they didn't know enough about the GIS publishing market and to test it out with a 'Hacks' book. They have a Mapserver/PostGIS book being written by Tyler Mitchell, which will presumably cover GDAL, proj4 etc in more depth... we'll see - jo From ari.jolma at hut.fi Mon Nov 1 09:44:15 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:44:15 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices In-Reply-To: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> References: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <4185F75F.3030903@hut.fi> Dave McIlhagga wrote: > Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open > source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm > looking for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. Take a look at this: http://gimodig.fgi.fi/index.php I'm not working in the project but I know, and you can find it out from that website, that they are using FOSS (PostGIS for example). I'm not sure if they will publish the prototype they are producing as FOSS but at least part of the deliverables are available as pdf's. Ari > > I've searched around and haven't found anything. > > If this doesn't already exist -- is there anyone interested in working > towards development of this technology? I'd be happy to hear of any > ideas people on the list may have. > > Dave -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma From werchowyna at pf.pl Mon Nov 1 13:11:03 2004 From: werchowyna at pf.pl (Maciek Sieczka) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:11:03 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] free digitizing software References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> <20041101023348.GL29470@vishnu.tridity.org> Message-ID: <000e01c4c00b$ded08fc0$de5a4cd5@podyadeck> Hi! Does anybody know of a no-cost or a low-cost software for semi-automatic digitizing (Linux or Windows)? I mean that I pick a starting point on the line (e.g. elevation contour on a scanned topo), then it is automatically traced until it intersects with other line or ends and then I should be allowed to tell it if/where to continue. Thanks. Maciek From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Nov 1 18:12:40 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:12:40 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041101171240.GV12879@intevation.de> On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:04:21PM -0700, Brent Wood wrote: > Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? > > I know the GRASS book is there, v2 just out... The FreeGIS tutorial was a start, but only on German so far. http://www.freegis.org/freegis_tutorial/index.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041101/2ad3dcf0/attachment.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Nov 1 18:21:03 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:21:03 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices In-Reply-To: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> References: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <20041101172103.GX12879@intevation.de> On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:09:59PM -0500, Dave McIlhagga wrote: > Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open > source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm looking > for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. > > I've searched around and haven't found anything. Apard from GRASS (which was already mentioned in an answer to this post) the chances are high that other FreeSoftware components can easily be made to run on modile devices. E.g. changes are high for Thuban (uses wxwidgets having an embedded page), Quantum GIS (uses QT which also has embedded uses) or Jump with Java. GPSDrive is confirmed to work on mobile devices. So the compoments are there to take and to adaopt to you use. (I must admit that I do not know ArcPad, so I cannot say how close the mentioned components are to its funcationality.) Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041101/f9bc83ec/attachment.bin From ram_sankaran at rediffmail.com Tue Nov 2 08:58:31 2004 From: ram_sankaran at rediffmail.com (raaj ram sankaran) Date: 2 Nov 2004 07:58:31 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] reg: research in GIS Message-ID: <20041102075831.29981.qmail@webmail27.rediffmail.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041102/e027f46f/attachment.txt From blazek at itc.it Tue Nov 2 09:50:47 2004 From: blazek at itc.it (Radim Blazek) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:50:47 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices In-Reply-To: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> References: <41852A77.50905@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <200411020850.iA28olC15854@janacek.itc.it.> It is not difficult to get QGIS running on PDA: http://mpa.itc.it/radim/qgis/qgis-0.0.9-grass/ipaq1.png http://mpa.itc.it/radim/qgis/qgis-0.0.9-grass/ipaq2.png Currently the problem is, that it is not a systematic effort. It would be necessary to modify dialogs to PDA screen (GUI designer), maintain the micro version in QGIS CVS and follow desktop version development. There is certainly will to port QGIS to PDA: http://www.google.it/search?q=zaurus+site:mrcc.com&hl=en&lr=&output=search Radim On Sunday 31 October 2004 19:09, Dave McIlhagga wrote: > Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open > source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm looking > for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. > > I've searched around and haven't found anything. > > If this doesn't already exist -- is there anyone interested in working > towards development of this technology? I'd be happy to hear of any > ideas people on the list may have. > > Dave From sholl at gmx.net Tue Nov 2 09:54:35 2004 From: sholl at gmx.net (Stephan Holl) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:54:35 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS web router In-Reply-To: <20041031230124.4770.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> References: <20041031230124.4770.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Message-ID: <20041102095435.579a630d.sholl@gmx.net> Hello Eduardo, On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:01:24 -0300 "Eduardo Patto Kanegae" wrote: > Hello, > > does anybody recommend any free software API for computing routes at > web enviroment ? ( e.g.: PHP, Perl or Python ) with a little (php) scripting you could use the network-analysis-tools inside GRASS GIS 5.7 for routing, displayed with UMN. However, the results depend highly on your data. Regards Stephan Holl -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de From blazek at itc.it Tue Nov 2 11:20:42 2004 From: blazek at itc.it (Radim Blazek) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:20:42 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS web router In-Reply-To: <20041102095435.579a630d.sholl@gmx.net> References: <20041031230124.4770.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <20041102095435.579a630d.sholl@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200411021020.iA2AKgj16155@janacek.itc.it.> On Tuesday 02 November 2004 09:54, Stephan Holl wrote: > Hello Eduardo, > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:01:24 -0300 "Eduardo Patto Kanegae" > > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > does anybody recommend any free software API for computing routes at > > web enviroment ? ( e.g.: PHP, Perl or Python ) > > with a little (php) scripting you could use the network-analysis-tools > inside GRASS GIS 5.7 for routing, displayed with UMN. > However, the results depend highly on your data. What does that mean? Radim PS: this is not a solution for today, because GRASS server is not yet released, (I have to polish that a bit) just an example: http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/grass04/viewabstract.php?id=30 and video of the application running on PDA (32M !, sound is important as it is moltimodal): http://mpa.itc.it/radim/grass-server/grass-server-divx.avi From ral at alum.mit.edu Tue Nov 2 21:10:05 2004 From: ral at alum.mit.edu (Roger Longhorn) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 20:10:05 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: UK government endorses open source software Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20041102200813.01251710@pop.freeserve.com> But does the UK government endorsement of "open source" software extend beyond the "Linux v. Windows" debate, into application software, such as the various non-ESRI, non-MapInfo, non-Integraph GIS packages available from the "open source" community? One suspects not. Kind regards Roger Longhorn ral at alum.mit.edu Roger A. Longhorn Director, Info-Dynamics Research Associates Ltd EC Projects Office 1A Potters Cross, Wootton Bedfordshire MK43 9JG, U.K. Computer voicemail & Fax +44 (0)870 134 6492 E-mail: ral at alum.mit.edu Mobile +44 (0)7879 875288 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041102/f306524a/attachment.html From mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de Wed Nov 3 11:32:58 2004 From: mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:32:58 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: [GRASS5] GRASS Users Survey 2004 Message-ID: <200411031132.58936.mailinglist2_wegmann@web.de> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [GRASS5] GRASS Users Survey 2004 Dear all, In order to collect up-to-date information on the GRASS user base and evaluate the current releases of GRASS, we are launching the GRASS Users Survey 2004. You can find the questionnaire at http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass_survey/ It should take around 10 min. Please take this time in order to help us know your needs and make GRASS even better ! Please forward this mail to any localized GRASS mailing list you might be subscribed to subscribed to one of the lists as well as to any individual GRASS users that are not subscribed to any list. The results will published in the next issue of GRASS News (http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/index.html). Thank you ! Martin Wegmann and Moritz Lennert _______________________________________________ grass5 mailing list grass5 at grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grass5 ------------------------------------------------------- From cavallini at faunalia.it Wed Nov 3 15:53:01 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:53:01 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison Message-ID: <200411031553.06384.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Is anybody aware of a comparison between a free software and the commercial equivalent? I am thinking especially of: GRASS vs Arc/INFO and PostgreSQL+PostGIS+GEOS vs Oracle+Spatial I suspect in several respects free software is just better (not only cheaper and/or ethically better), and it would be good to show this with real examples. All the best. pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBiPDN/NedwLUzIr4RAn9JAJ9LB5WvQ+10dbXizsXDF5KOe4rK9wCgpnh1 1tojrZJixN7dWjO5hqSRwlw= =Qaut -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bernhard at intevation.de Wed Nov 3 16:21:08 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:21:08 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison In-Reply-To: <200411031553.06384.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200411031553.06384.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <20041103152108.GG26180@intevation.de> On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 03:53:01PM +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Is anybody aware of a comparison between a free software and the commercial > equivalent? Those are no opposites, you have probably meant free version proprietary software. ;) > I am thinking especially of: > GRASS vs Arc/INFO > and > PostgreSQL+PostGIS+GEOS vs Oracle+Spatial > I suspect in several respects free software is just better (not only cheaper > and/or ethically better), and it would be good to show this with real > examples. Unfortunately I am not aware of good comparisons and case studies, the problem is that unless you are really trying to set up a solution everything else is often too theoretically. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041103/53b166c6/attachment.bin From ari.jolma at hut.fi Wed Nov 3 17:32:16 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:32:16 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <20041101023348.GL29470@vishnu.tridity.org> References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> <20041101023348.GL29470@vishnu.tridity.org> Message-ID: <41890810.3040506@hut.fi> Jo Walsh wrote: >On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:04:21PM -0700, Brent Wood wrote: > > >>Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? >> >>With Open Source GIS suites available, Open-EV, FGS, LinGis, Debian GIS, etc, >>including GRASS, PostGIS, R, GDAL, QGIS, JUMP, GEOS, Proj4, mapserver, deegree, >> >> > > >When Schuyler and Rich originally pitched it to ORA, it was as "Open Source GIS Essentials", but ORA decided they didn't know enough about the GIS publishing market and to test it out with a 'Hacks' book. They have a Mapserver/PostGIS book being written by Tyler Mitchell, which will presumably cover GDAL, proj4 etc in more depth... we'll see > > It's interesting that there are no books with the word "geoinformatics" in the title (amazon gives one, but that's a conference proceedings). ORA has several books on "bioinformatics". The GIS books are often about business, about GI science, or about GIS as a product or one tool. Maybe the OS model and tools like those mentioned above and Perl and Python would be more suitable something under the geoinformatics title? I'm currently teaching (and learning on the way) a new course of mine called "programming in GIS" and using a lot of Perl there and OS tools (gdal, proj4, PostGIS, ...) in general. As one of my students said, a comprehensive textbook would be very useful. I'm surely going to look for those two books mentioned when they come out. Ari -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma/ From mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de Wed Nov 3 17:54:17 2004 From: mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:54:17 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison In-Reply-To: <200411031553.06384.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200411031553.06384.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <200411031754.17592.mailinglist2_wegmann@web.de> Hello Paolo, On Wednesday 03 November 2004 15:53, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Hi all. > Is anybody aware of a comparison between a free software and the commercial > equivalent? I am thinking especially of: > GRASS vs Arc/INFO I am not aware of a book which targeted a real comparison of GRASS and ArcInfo but a book by Wadsworth and Treweek, Geographical Information Systems for Ecology. Addison Wesley Longman (1999) compared GRASS, ArcInfo and ... IdRisi (?) for GIS usage (ecology related). it is not 100% what you are looking for but perhaps a nice start, cheers Martin > and > PostgreSQL+PostGIS+GEOS vs Oracle+Spatial > I suspect in several respects free software is just better (not only > cheaper and/or ethically better), and it would be good to show this with > real examples. > All the best. > pc From WHarms at bfs.de Wed Nov 3 17:59:58 2004 From: WHarms at bfs.de (WHarms@bfs.de) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 18:59:58 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices Message-ID: several older gis applicatioan used to run on computers with less power that a modern embedded (mobile) device has now. regrads, walter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Bernhard Reiter Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Free GIS for Mobile Devices Date: 11/01/04 18:21 On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:09:59PM -0500, Dave McIlhagga wrote: > Is anyone aware of any current efforts or plans to develop an open > source lightweight GIS for mobile devices? Essentially what I'm looking > for is an open source equivalent to ArcPad. > > I've searched around and haven't found anything. Apard from GRASS (which was already mentioned in an answer to this post) the chances are high that other FreeSoftware components can easily be made to run on modile devices. E.g. changes are high for Thuban (uses wxwidgets having an embedded page), Quantum GIS (uses QT which also has embedded uses) or Jump with Java. GPSDrive is confirmed to work on mobile devices. So the compoments are there to take and to adaopt to you use. (I must admit that I do not know ArcPad, so I cannot say how close the mentioned components are to its funcationality.) Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! In business since 1999: http://intevation.net/services/gis/webmapping.en.html Pay for FreeGIS if you like it: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html From WHarms at bfs.de Wed Nov 3 18:08:59 2004 From: WHarms at bfs.de (WHarms@bfs.de) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:08:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison Message-ID: there is no real comparisson possible since the targets and requierements are different. The simplest way is to write down what you want now and in future and can invest. The next problem free/open souftware is a moving target. features you may need now can be available in the next release. the opposit: you will provide code that the maintainer dont like. re, walter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Paolo Cavallini Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison Date: 11/03/04 15:53 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Is anybody aware of a comparison between a free software and the commercial equivalent? I am thinking especially of: GRASS vs Arc/INFO and PostgreSQL+PostGIS+GEOS vs Oracle+Spatial I suspect in several respects free software is just better (not only cheaper and/or ethically better), and it would be good to show this with real examples. All the best. pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBiPDN/NedwLUzIr4RAn9JAJ9LB5WvQ+10dbXizsXDF5KOe4rK9wCgpnh1 1tojrZJixN7dWjO5hqSRwlw= =Qaut -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From I.J.Turton at leeds.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 17:51:30 2004 From: I.J.Turton at leeds.ac.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:51:30 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? Message-ID: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE8018620EB@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> > It's interesting that there are no books with the word > "geoinformatics" > in the title (amazon gives one, but that's a conference proceedings). Try looking for GeoComputation - an earlier and still prefered in many places. I'm thinking of writing a book on OGC standard web mapping (WMS/WFS etc) using OS programs for a course I'm doing next semester unless any one else can suggest a book for the course. Ian Centre for Computational Geography, University of Leeds From cavallini at faunalia.it Wed Nov 3 18:30:35 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 18:30:35 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison In-Reply-To: <=?utf-8?q?vines=2EsxdD+f0F=C3=97?=,A@SZKOM.BFS.DE> References: Message-ID: <200411031830.38579.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In what sense you write that targets and requirements are different? Do not you think that free GIS aims to be equivalent to non-free GIS, in the way that, e.g., OpenOffice is equivalent to Microsoft Office (with their respective strangths and weaknesses)? I ma thinking e.g. to a professional that wants to build up a GIS and has to decide which one. Most probably he/she will be interested in cost as well as in feature comparison. Thanks for your comments. pc At 18:08, mercoled? 03 novembre 2004, Walter Harms has probably written: > there is no real comparisson possible since the targets and > requierements are different. The simplest way is to write down > what you want now and in future and can invest. > The next problem free/open souftware is a moving target. features > you may need now can be available in the next release. > the opposit: you will provide code that the maintainer dont like. > > re, > walter > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > From: Paolo Cavallini > Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison > Date: 11/03/04 15:53 > > Hi all. > Is anybody aware of a comparison between a free software and the commercial > equivalent? I am thinking especially of: > GRASS vs Arc/INFO > and > PostgreSQL+PostGIS+GEOS vs Oracle+Spatial > I suspect in several respects free software is just better (not only > cheaper and/or ethically better), and it would be good to show this with > real examples. > All the best. > pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 GPG key @: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html https://www.biglumber.com Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBiRW7/NedwLUzIr4RAs94AJ4nbFRs9o0fSjhhs8SQp/vhXGVe3QCdE4b9 tdtXEolVxieU4RPx3y5yn8s= =+8Rw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ari.jolma at hut.fi Wed Nov 3 18:32:01 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:32:01 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE8018620EB@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE8018620EB@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <41891611.2050601@hut.fi> Ian Turton wrote: >>It's interesting that there are no books with the word >>"geoinformatics" >>in the title (amazon gives one, but that's a conference proceedings). >> >> > >Try looking for GeoComputation - an earlier and still prefered in many >places. > > Yes, but not too many books with that term in title either, the main one is also a sort of conference proceedings. OS is perhaps more used GeoComputation field --maybe because it is rather research oriented. Maybe the term Geoinformatics is also more sexy (and more broad) than GeoComputation? ;-) Ari -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma/ From timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de Wed Nov 3 20:17:43 2004 From: timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de (Tim Michelsen) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:17:43 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <20041101171240.GV12879@intevation.de> References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> <20041101171240.GV12879@intevation.de> Message-ID: <200411031917.43409.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> Am Montag, 1. November 2004 17:12 schrieb Bernhard Reiter: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:04:21PM -0700, Brent Wood wrote: > > Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? > > > > I know the GRASS book is there, v2 just out... > > The FreeGIS tutorial was a start, but only on German so far. > http://www.freegis.org/freegis_tutorial/index.en.html I have a idea: Why not set the site up in a manner that erverybody can contribute and add chapters? In a WiKI-like from. Then experts could be assigned to every chapter or topic who check for errors and mistakes. When we have enough new material we could release a new version of the Tutorial which may then grow in a small book. The WiKi or webpages could be converted in pdf for printing. Greetings Tim From fitzke at lat-lon.de Wed Nov 3 19:56:14 2004 From: fitzke at lat-lon.de (Jens Fitzke) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:56:14 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] OS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE8018620EB@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE8018620EB@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <418929CE.6080705@lat-lon.de> perhaps the Open Geospatial Consortium's Cookbook program is an interesting starting point for you: http://www.opengeospatial.org/resources/?page=cookbooks unfortunately both the WMS and WFS cookbooks are not available at the moment (the one being updated and the other in preparation), but both cover relevant free software implementations. Here are snapshots from both TOCs: 3. WMS Recipes ................................................................................................................................................... 3.1. Recipe 1: The ArcIMS OGC WMS Connector: .......................................................................................... 3.1.1. Step 1: Preliminary Requirements ..................................................................................................... 3.1.2. Step 2: Installation of the ESRI OGC WMS Connector ..................................................................... 3.1.3. Step 3: Configure the WMS Connector.............................................................................................. 3.1.4. Step 4: Setup a MapService and Client for your WMS...................................................................... 3.1.5. Step 5: Test your WMS Service......................................................................................................... 3.2. Recipe 2: deegree Web Map Server.......................................................................................................... 3.2.1. Step 1: Preliminary Requirements ..................................................................................................... 3.2.2. Step 2: Installation of deegree WMS ................................................................................................. 3.3. Recipe 3: University of Minnesota (UMN) MapServer ............................................................................... 3.3.1. Recipe 3A: UMN Mapserver HOWTO for Setting Up a WMS Server with Mapserver ...................... 3.4. Recipe 3B: UMN MapServer HOW TO for Setting Up a WMS Client with Mapserver .............................. 3.4.1. Step 1: Compilation / Installation ....................................................................................................... 3.4.2. Step 2: Check your MapServer executable ....................................................................................... 3.4.3. Limitations/To Do ............................................................................................................................... 3.4.4. Additional Information: Using ArcExplorer 4 as a Client for WMS-compliant UMN Mapserver ......... 3.5. Recipe 4: Intergraph GeoMedia WebMap WMS Adapter Kit..................................................................... 3.5.1. Step 1: Preliminary Requirements ..................................................................................................... 3.5.2. Step 2: Creating your WMS using the GeoMedia WebMap WMS Adapter Kit.................................. 3.6. Recipe 5: How to build a WMS from Free Parts ........................................................................................ 3.7. Recipe 6: GeoServNet (GSN) 3D Client .................................................................................................... 3.7.1. Steps for Installing the OGC 3D Viewer............................................................................................. 3.7.2. 2D Viewer Operation.......................................................................................................................... 4.WFS Recipes 329 4.1.Recipe 1: GeoServer (Contributor: The Open Planning Project) 329 4.1.1. Preliminary Requirements 329 4.1.2. Installing GeoServer 330 4.1.3. Testing GeoServer 337 4.2.Recipe 2: How to Add a New Data Format to GeoServer (Contributor: Refractions) 337 4.2.1. GeoServer Datastore Tutorial 338 4.2.2. PropertyDataStore Implementation 338 4.3.Recipe 3: deegree WFS 346 4.3.1. Step 1: Preliminary Requirements 347 4.3.2. Step 2: Installation of degree WFS 348 4.3.3. Step 3: deegree WFS Configuration 350 4.3.4. deegree WFS Configuration Example 365 4.4.Recipe 4: CARIS Spatial Fusion WFS (Contributor: CARIS) 375 4.4.1. Preliminary Requirements 376 4.4.2. Data Preparation 376 4.4.3. Installing the CARIS Spatial Fusion WFS 380 4.4.4. Test the WFS Service 381 4.5.Recipe 5: GeoMedia WebMap WFS Adapter Kit (Contributor: Intergraph) 382 4.5.1. Pre-requisites 382 4.5.2. Adapter Kit Setup 382 4.5.3. WFS Setup 384 4.5.4. WFS Testing 384 4.5.5. Customization of WFS Website 384 4.6.Recipe 6: UMN MapServer WFS Client HOW-TO (Source: DM Solutions Group, Inc.) 385 4.6.1. Preliminary Requirements 385 4.6.2. Setting-Up a WFS Layer in Your Mapfile 385 4.6.3. Special Build Considerations 386 4.7.Recipe 7: UMN MapServer WFS Server HOW-TO (Source: DM Solutions Group, Inc.) 386 4.7.1. Preliminary Requirements 387 4.7.2. Configuring your MapFile to serve WFS layers 388 4.7.3. LAYER object METADATA parameters 389 4.7.4. Rules for Handling SRS in a MapServer WFS 389 4.7.5. To-do Items and Known Limitations 389 4.8.Recipe 8: WFS Connector for ArcIMS 4.0.1 (Contributor: ESRI) 390 4.8.1. The WFS Connector 390 4.9.Recipe 9: CarbonTools – OpenGIS Toolkit for Windows Developers (Contributor: Nuke Goldstein) 401 4.10.Recipe 10: CarbonTools Recipe for a Simple .NET WFS Client (Contributor: Nuke Goldstein) 428 4.10.1. Step 1: New Project and GUI Setting 428 4.10.2. Step 2: Query Parameters 428 4.10.3. Step 3 : Setting the Query String 428 4.10.4. Step 4 : Sending the Query 429 4.10.5. Step 5 : User Activation 430 4.11.Recipe 11: HOW-TO Make a GIDB Portal System Server (Contributor: Naval Research Laboratory) 431 4.11.1. HOW-TO Make a GIDB Thick-Client File Input Plugin 436 4.11.2. HOW-TO Make a GIDB Thick-Client File Output Plugin 441 4.11.3. HOW-TO Make a GIDB Thick-Client Visualization Plugin 441 Ian Turton schrieb: >>It's interesting that there are no books with the word >>"geoinformatics" >>in the title (amazon gives one, but that's a conference proceedings). > > > Try looking for GeoComputation - an earlier and still prefered in many > places. > > I'm thinking of writing a book on OGC standard web mapping (WMS/WFS etc) > using OS programs for a course I'm doing next semester unless any one > else can suggest a book for the course. > > > Ian > Centre for Computational Geography, University of Leeds > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From jan at intevation.de Wed Nov 3 20:14:05 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:14:05 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] comparison In-Reply-To: <200411031830.38579.cavallini@faunalia.it> References: <200411031830.38579.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <20041103191405.GB15877@intevation.de> On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 06:30:35PM +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > In what sense you write that targets and requirements are different? Do not > you think that free GIS aims to be equivalent to non-free GIS, in the way > that, e.g., OpenOffice is equivalent to Microsoft Office (with their > respective strangths and weaknesses)? > I ma thinking e.g. to a professional that wants to build up a GIS and has to > decide which one. Most probably he/she will be interested in cost as well as > in feature comparison. Usually Free Software looses against a proprietary software if it comes to a feature-by-feature comparison. The reason is that the Free Software is needs-driven and for proprietary software updates are sold only if there are new features (though sometimes noone needs them). Take GRASS for example. A extremely powerful GIS. But all the users where quite comfortable with the command line for a long time. At least noone invested into a full-blown GUI - money or man-power was invested in further algorithms instead. Nowadays the user basis has grown and GRASS starts to have nice GUIs. So, the best approach for a user is to write down all the needs as a first step. The second is to check whether the alternative tools do fulfil the needs (maybe weithed in someway to reflect adequacy). The third step would be to analysis the costs for adding the mssing features or fixing other drawbacks of the Free Software. Then compare it with the costs for a proprietary software and you get the first idea. Unfortunately that is not yet all as you have to calculate or estimate the Total Cost of Operation (TOC) to really have a solid decision basis. Also let me note that many people say that the GIS market is more solution oriented than product oriented (with a growing tendency). So, actually the product counts only partly and the solution provider is important too. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From gisdude at hotpop.com Thu Nov 4 16:00:34 2004 From: gisdude at hotpop.com (Rajkumar Singh) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 10:00:34 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <200411031917.43409.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> References: <20041030230421.67451.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> <20041101171240.GV12879@intevation.de> <200411031917.43409.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> Message-ID: <418A4412.7040502@hotpop.com> This sounds like a very good idea. In this way, everyone participating can focus on their area of expertise or specialization. It should also move along at a relatively fast pace if enough contributors are involved, but then again it might not if there are too many different opinions. Cheers. Raj Tim Michelsen wrote: >Am Montag, 1. November 2004 17:12 schrieb Bernhard Reiter: > > >>On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:04:21PM -0700, Brent Wood wrote: >> >> >>>Has anyone compiled a book on OS GIS? >>> >>>I know the GRASS book is there, v2 just out... >>> >>> >>The FreeGIS tutorial was a start, but only on German so far. >>http://www.freegis.org/freegis_tutorial/index.en.html >> >> > >I have a idea: >Why not set the site up in a manner that erverybody can contribute and add >chapters? >In a WiKI-like from. >Then experts could be assigned to every chapter or topic who check for errors >and mistakes. > >When we have enough new material we could release a new version of the >Tutorial which may then grow in a small book. > >The WiKi or webpages could be converted in pdf for printing. > >Greetings >Tim > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > From I.J.Turton at leeds.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 16:31:24 2004 From: I.J.Turton at leeds.ac.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:31:24 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? Message-ID: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Rajkumar Singh wrote: > This sounds like a very good idea. In this way, everyone > participating > can focus on their area of expertise or specialization. It > should also > move along at a relatively fast pace if enough contributors are > involved, but then again it might not if there are too many different > opinions. OK what's the best way to move this forward, should we just hijack the GIS section of wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_information_system? or do we want to run a separate site? I'd been thinking about publishing the book as an Open Source book (like the svn book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/) what do people think? Ian From warmerdam at pobox.com Thu Nov 4 17:11:53 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <418A54C9.2020104@pobox.com> Ian Turton wrote: > OK what's the best way to move this forward, should we just hijack the > GIS section of wikipedia > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_information_system? or do we > want to run a separate site? > > I'd been thinking about publishing the book as an Open Source book (like > the svn book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/) what do people think? Ian, I don't think it should be developed within the Wikipedia wiki. Wikipedia has alot of rules and conventions that would be inappropriate for an indepth FS GIS technical book. I would suggest either setting up a new wiki instance somewhere or working within a less structured existing wiki that wouldn't mind the extra material. Setting up a wiki isn't really too hard. I thinking working towards a form like the svnbook would be great, though in the meantime an evolving wiki can be a good community resource before things are cleaned up into a more publishable format. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From bwilson at clickshift.com Thu Nov 4 18:29:23 2004 From: bwilson at clickshift.com (Brian Wilson) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:29:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <418A54C9.2020104@pobox.com> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <418A54C9.2020104@pobox.com> Message-ID: FreeGIS'ers, A few months ago I put up a Wiki on http://www.seafloor.org/ as a repository for stuff related to my interest in GIS/GPS especially as related to marine sciences. I would be honored to have you all use it. It's running the same software as the wikipedia which seems to be about the best out there right now. I've been using it as a personal spot but I'd love to have it become a focus for more. I even started a Grass book outline even though I have almost zero Grass experience so far. Feel free to connect and edit pages, even if you just want a sandbox to try out mediawiki ideas. --Brian On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Ian Turton wrote: > > OK what's the best way to move this forward, should we just hijack the > > GIS section of wikipedia > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_information_system? or do we > > want to run a separate site? > > > > I'd been thinking about publishing the book as an Open Source book (like > > the svn book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/) what do people think? > > Ian, > > I don't think it should be developed within the Wikipedia wiki. Wikipedia > has alot of rules and conventions that would be inappropriate for an indepth > FS GIS technical book. I would suggest either setting up a new wiki instance > somewhere or working within a less structured existing wiki that wouldn't mind > the extra material. Setting up a wiki isn't really too hard. > > I thinking working towards a form like the svnbook would be great, though in > the meantime an evolving wiki can be a good community resource before things > are cleaned up into a more publishable format. > > Best regards, > -- Brian Wilson Corvallis, Oregon 541-368-4120 From adoyle at eogeo.org Fri Nov 5 16:26:24 2004 From: adoyle at eogeo.org (Allan Doyle) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:26:24 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <418A54C9.2020104@pobox.com> Message-ID: <0DFE23D8-2F3F-11D9-9415-000A95DA2B18@eogeo.org> EOGEO.org would also be happy to host this. We can use the existing Plone site or can set up a separate instance. We have Zwiki running under Plone. We can also set up MoinMoin, which I'm familiar with. Or we can set up a subversion repository for a docbook version of the book. Our system is backed up nightly and we have plenty of spare cycles and bandwidth. For now :) In any case, if people want to help set up a decent environment, we can provide user accounts. It's a Debian system. http://www.eogeo.org is the main site. Allan On Nov 4, 2004, at 12:29, Brian Wilson wrote: > FreeGIS'ers, > > A few months ago I put up a Wiki on http://www.seafloor.org/ > as a repository for stuff related to my interest in GIS/GPS > especially as related to marine sciences. > > I would be honored to have you all use it. > > It's running the same software as the wikipedia which seems to > be about the best out there right now. > > I've been using it as a personal spot but I'd love to have > it become a focus for more. > > I even started a Grass book outline even though I have almost zero > Grass experience so far. > > Feel free to connect and edit pages, even if you just want a sandbox > to try out mediawiki ideas. > > --Brian > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > >> Ian Turton wrote: >>> OK what's the best way to move this forward, should we just hijack >>> the >>> GIS section of wikipedia >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_information_system? or do we >>> want to run a separate site? >>> >>> I'd been thinking about publishing the book as an Open Source book >>> (like >>> the svn book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/) what do people think? >> >> Ian, >> >> I don't think it should be developed within the Wikipedia wiki. >> Wikipedia >> has alot of rules and conventions that would be inappropriate for an >> indepth >> FS GIS technical book. I would suggest either setting up a new wiki >> instance >> somewhere or working within a less structured existing wiki that >> wouldn't mind >> the extra material. Setting up a wiki isn't really too hard. >> >> I thinking working towards a form like the svnbook would be great, >> though in >> the meantime an evolving wiki can be a good community resource before >> things >> are cleaned up into a more publishable format. >> >> Best regards, >> > > -- > Brian Wilson > Corvallis, Oregon > 541-368-4120 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From eduardo at webmapit.com.br Fri Nov 5 15:29:51 2004 From: eduardo at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:29:51 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] [off-topic] free database modeler Message-ID: <20041105132952.3932.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Last year I used to have Sybase PowerDesigner to create data dictionaries... It's a very powerfull tool where you can create tables, domains, rules, types, relatioships and field definitions. It's possible to see and model the table diagram and also generate SQL create commands. Do you know a similar free software tool that runs under Linux? thanks in advance Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 phone:+55(16)9994-2928 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de Fri Nov 5 20:53:19 2004 From: timmichelsen at gmx-topmail.de (Tim Michelsen) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:53:19 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <0DFE23D8-2F3F-11D9-9415-000A95DA2B18@eogeo.org> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <0DFE23D8-2F3F-11D9-9415-000A95DA2B18@eogeo.org> Message-ID: <200411051953.19526.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> Am Freitag, 5. November 2004 15:26 schrieb Allan Doyle: > EOGEO.org would also be happy to host this. We can use the existing > Plone site or can set up a separate instance. What about a redirect? E. g. www.freegisbook.eogeo.org > We have Zwiki running > under Plone. We can also set up MoinMoin, which I'm familiar with. Why not start on your site to develop the structure and then move towards a setup that leads to a well structured and edited book? We should start develop a table of contents - which could be extended in future, of course and the assign editor for the chapters. Maybe we could translate parts of the freegis tutorial to have a start and then complete missing parts or add new topics. > Or > we can set up a subversion repository for a docbook version of the > book. > Our system is backed up nightly and we have plenty of spare cycles and > bandwidth. For now :) Sound great. Tim From adoyle at eogeo.org Fri Nov 5 20:11:06 2004 From: adoyle at eogeo.org (Allan Doyle) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:11:06 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] FS GIS book? In-Reply-To: <200411051953.19526.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> References: <7D3CC6609ECDB64A949E1096E2CA6BE801862231@VEX1.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <0DFE23D8-2F3F-11D9-9415-000A95DA2B18@eogeo.org> <200411051953.19526.timmichelsen@gmx-topmail.de> Message-ID: <71E7BB6E-2F5E-11D9-9415-000A95DA2B18@eogeo.org> On Nov 5, 2004, at 14:53, Tim Michelsen wrote: > Am Freitag, 5. November 2004 15:26 schrieb Allan Doyle: >> EOGEO.org would also be happy to host this. We can use the existing >> Plone site or can set up a separate instance. > What about a redirect? > E. g. www.freegisbook.eogeo.org Yes, I can do that... >> We have Zwiki running >> under Plone. We can also set up MoinMoin, which I'm familiar with. > Why not start on your site to develop the structure and then move > towards a > setup that leads to a well structured and edited book? I put an initial page here http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/FreeGISBook You need an account. Set one up on the "join" or "new user" links. People can put in ideas here and we can add more structure as we go. I'd rather not be the "editor by default". Are there volunteers? And, here's a mailing list people can join. http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/freegisbook Allan > > We should start develop a table of contents - which could be extended > in > future, of course and the assign editor for the chapters. > > Maybe we could translate parts of the freegis tutorial to have a start > and > then complete missing parts or add new topics. > >> Or >> we can set up a subversion repository for a docbook version of the >> book. > > >> Our system is backed up nightly and we have plenty of spare cycles and >> bandwidth. For now :) > Sound great. > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From lists at webmapit.com.br Fri Nov 5 23:39:02 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:39:02 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] [off-topic] free database modeler Message-ID: <20041105223902.22262.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Last year I used to have Sybase PowerDesigner to create data dictionaries... It's a very powerfull tool where you can create tables, domains, rules, types, relatioships and field definitions. It's possible to see and model the table diagram and also generate SQL create commands. Do you know a similar free software tool that runs under Linux? thanks in advance Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From rory.temp at gmail.com Mon Nov 8 02:15:28 2004 From: rory.temp at gmail.com (Rory Kingan) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 01:15:28 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Suggestions for web mapping system? In-Reply-To: <163d9eaf04110716565798157c@mail.gmail.com> References: <163d9eaf04110716565798157c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <163d9eaf04110717151ffbcbdb@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm new to gis and a little overwhelmed by all the freegis systems, data, etc available so I'm looking for some pointers for a system I'd like to build. What I want to make is a (non-commercial) website to display Wifi coverage in the UK, in particular London. Assuming I gather a list of all these wireless transmitter nodes and information about where they are and their approximate coverage range I want to draw maps showing the nodes and their coverage zones, overlaid upon a street map of london. People should be able to click on a node to get various details about it, zoom in and out, pan, etc. They should also be able to enter their location and see a map showing the nearby nodes. People might also want to filter out nodes based on properties like whether they're free, whether they're in a cafe / bar, etc. There are some sites out there that pretty much do this, for example www.totalhotspots.com. However, they all seem a bit dumb in some way or another, and/or they're oriented towards pay-for services instead of free wireless. So my questions are: - Anyone know anything exactly like this? - Anyone know of similar applications using freegis that I could look at? - What freegis software should I use to do this? - What free data is available for street maps in london? (preferably whole of the UK) - If full streetmap data isn't freely available, how about just some coarse features like parks, main roads, anything that will be better than just circles on a blank background? - Any recommended reference material for a newbie to GIS that would be useful for this sort of application? - Anything else I should know or questions I should have asked? thanks in advance, Rory From jo at frot.org Mon Nov 8 02:57:51 2004 From: jo at frot.org (Jo Walsh) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:57:51 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Suggestions for web mapping system? In-Reply-To: <163d9eaf04110717151ffbcbdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <163d9eaf04110716565798157c@mail.gmail.com> <163d9eaf04110717151ffbcbdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20041108015751.GW14781@vishnu.tridity.org> hello rory, just seen your posts here and to consume-resources ... > What I want to make is a (non-commercial) website to display Wifi > coverage in the UK, in particular London. Assuming I gather a list of > all these wireless transmitter nodes and information about where they > are and their approximate coverage range I want to draw maps showing > the nodes and their coverage zones, overlaid upon a street map of > london. People should be able to click on a node to get various > details about it, zoom in and out, pan, etc. > - Anyone know anything exactly like this? we're just starting work on something exactly like this at the moment, as part of a Wireless London project - http://informal.org.uk/wiki/index.php/WirelessLondonTechnicalOverview . It is in consume.net but not of it, ideally i want to make something that can replace the current consume.net node database, and at least stay current with it... expect more detailed braindumps / plans on consume-resources tomorrow > - Anyone know of similar applications using freegis that I could look at? You could do worse than look at wifimaps.com, which has a lot of pointers to the free GIS packages it was built from: though wifimaps is not source-available, and is US-only. They're interested in collabing on a london project, i think. > - What freegis software should I use to do this? we're planning to use PostGIS + mapserver, then the pile of libraries like GDAL and Proj4 that underpin them. The other week i put up an experimental Web Feature Server of the consume nodedb - http://frot.org:8080/geoserver/wfs?request=GetCapabilities shows it. This was my first hands-dirty WFS/GML experiment, and so far i have not found a decent lightweight WFS/WMS client, so i can't send you an instant-gratification URL to view the map - i'd love to find small funding to get an SVG WFS client written for consume. pointers appreciated... > - What free data is available for street maps in london? (preferably > whole of the UK) rotflmao. UK map data is 0wned, Crown Copyright by the Ordnance Survey, which is a Trading Fund, a self-supporting company wholly owned by the government. But geographic data is exempt from the Freedom of Information act because it is a "Commercial Interest". There is no free data. http://www.geowiki.co.uk/ were compiling their own (but not copyright-free?) UK maps, but they seem to have gone dead in the last year :/ as a free-time project we are starting work on a free-of-copyright London map and data repository, concentrating on Tower Hamlets and Hackney for now, made from GPS traces with probably a Mapserver interface for annotating and editing features wiki-style. I don't know if there's much prior art on this (we don't want to reinvent the wheel if nesc, but are also quite java-averse). Come help us! We have some nice historic east london maps to digitise, too. > - If full streetmap data isn't freely available, how about just some > coarse features like parks, main roads, anything that will be better > than just circles on a blank background? These streets are made for walking. Also i'd like to get hold of GIS data on such features held (and owned) by local authorities. Problematically, they're so intertwined with Ordnance Survey products like Mastermap, and ESRI backends, that i don't think local authorities know what they do in fact own. There is http://londongreenmap.org , but i want to build a convincing basic demo before we talk to them... The Open Guide to London - http://london.openguides.org/ - is a wiki spatial recommendation site, which we're hoping to use as both map context and also for a simplest-useful-thing local information service to run with NoCatSplash on the nodes themselves (with the same interface available via the web)... > - Any recommended reference material for a newbie to GIS that would > be useful for this sort of application? There's the start of a project at http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/FreeGISBook/ - check the recent archives for an OGC tutorial thread. Our dead trees book, due out next year, has a pile of stuff on wireless network mapping and GPS. > - Anything else I should know or questions I should have asked? to me this is pretty much perfect timing... pls get in touch offlist ;) xoxo -jo From warmerdam at pobox.com Mon Nov 8 23:17:31 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:17:31 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] GDAL 1.2.4 Released Message-ID: <418FF07B.4080309@pobox.com> Folks, GDAL 1.2.4 has been officially released. http://www.gdal.org/dl/gdal-1.2.4.tar.gz http://www.gdal.org/dl/gdal124.zip The NEWS is below, but I wanted to highlight a copy things: 1) There were some very serious bugs in the OGR VRT driver which resulted in crashes in some common scenarios where it is used as a front to an ODBC database in MapServer. Please update as soon as possible if you are using OGR VRT datasources. 2) Libtiff is under active revision lately, and I believe there may have been some signficant bugs in 1.2.3 with building overviews. Consider upgrading to 1.2.4 if you might be doing this (even for non-GeoTIFF formats since the overviews are stored as TIFFs). Enjoy! GDAL 1.2.4 - Overview of Changes -------------------------------- gdalwarp: - Fixed some issues with only partially transformable regions. - Added Alpha mask generation support (-dstalpha switch). HFA/Imagine Driver: - bug fix in histogram handling. - improved support for large colormaps. Envi Driver: - Capture category names and colormaps when reading. SAR CEOS Driver: - Added support for PALSAR/ALOS Polarmetric Datasets. RadarSat 2 Driver: - New. Reads RadarSat 2 Polarmetric datasets with a "product.xml" and imagery in TIFF files. OGDI Driver: - Important bug fix for downsampled access. GeoTIFF Driver: - Lots of libtiff upgrades, including some quite serious bug fixes. - Added better support for 16bit colormaps. - Write projection information even if we don't have a geotransform or GCPs. - Improved alpha support. - Generate graceful error message for BigTIFF files. DODS Driver: - Almost completely reimplemented. Uses chunk-by-chunk access. Supports reading several bands from seperate objects. Some new limitations too. NetCDF Driver: - Seperated out a GMT NetCDF driver and a more generic but partially broken NetCDF driver (Radim). JP2KAK Driver: - Added alpha support, including greyscale+alpha. AirSAR Driver: - New, reads AirSAR Polarmetric Radar format. OGR 1.2.4 - Overview of Changes ------------------------------- epsg_tr.py: - Added escaping rules when generating PostGIS output. tigerpoly.py: - Discard dangles and degenerate rings. VRT Driver: - Fixed serious error in handling cleanup of VRT datasources, was often causing a crash. SQLLite Driver: - Fixed substantial memory leaks. MySQL Driver: - New readonly non-spatial MySQL driver implemented. MITAB Driver: - Updated from upstream, several fixes. TIGER/Line Driver: - Fixed serious bug with handling "full" records at end of .RT2 file. OCI/Oracle Driver: - Added OCI_FID environment support to control FID selection. OGRGeometry: - Added Centroid() implementation (from GEOS?) -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From napoogle at gmail.com Tue Nov 9 10:16:01 2004 From: napoogle at gmail.com (Maurizio Napolitano) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:16:01 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Hidrogis Message-ID: <49456d7404110901161016827b@mail.gmail.com> HidroSIG is a GIS that supports raster and vectorial maps with modules oriented to the hydrological analysis, time series, remote sensing and more. It has been made 100% in java using VisAD for data visualization and using MySQL to storage all data. Web site: http://cancerbero.unalmed.edu.co/~hidrosig/ingles/ Note: - the project is hosted on sourceforge and is under GPL license http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidrosig/ - the software is in java (so http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html) From roland at gisplan.com.br Tue Nov 9 16:05:07 2004 From: roland at gisplan.com.br (Roland G.) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:05:07 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client Message-ID: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> Hello, I'm searching for a good, free software WMS client. It should be SLD enabled. There is a list at the freegis website but are there clients who are not on that list? Also, which of the WMS clients on that list are SLD enabled? I did a search for SLD on the freegis software page and it returned 0 results. I know some companies offer free clients, but most of them are not free software(source code is available under a free software license). Thanks for any feedback, Roland From jt at mapmedia.de Wed Nov 10 12:10:50 2004 From: jt at mapmedia.de (=?windows-1252?Q?J=F6rg_Thomsen?=) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:10:50 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Freegis-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <20041110110002.76534102C08@lists.intevation.de> References: <20041110110002.76534102C08@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: <4191F73A.7080607@mapmedia.de> Hello Roland, some Chameleon widgets are sld-enabled (ROI, OGC and 'Other'): http://www.maptools.org/chameleon/index.phtml They are also included in ms4w: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml Joerg freegis-list-request at intevation.de wrote: > Send Freegis-list mailing list submissions to > freegis-list at intevation.de > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freegis-list-request at intevation.de > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freegis-list-owner at intevation.de > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freegis-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Seeking free software WMS client (Roland G.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:05:07 -0200 > From: "Roland G." > Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > Message-ID: <4190DCA3.5090401 at gisplan.com.br> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Hello, > > I'm searching for a good, free software WMS client. It should be SLD > enabled. There is a list at the freegis website but are there clients > who are not on that list? Also, which of the WMS clients on that list > are SLD enabled? I did a search for SLD on the freegis software page and > it returned 0 results. > > I know some companies offer free clients, but most of them are > not free software(source code is available under a free software license). > > Thanks for any feedback, > > Roland > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > End of Freegis-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 10 > ******************************************** -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Jörg Thomsen _________________________________________________ MapMedia Kartographie und raumbezogene Informationssysteme Heilbronner Straße 10 D-10711 Berlin fon: +49.(0)30.89 06 82 70 fax: +49.(0)30.89 06 82 73 mail: jt at mapmedia.de net: www.mapmedia.de pgp: on demand _________________________________________________ From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 11 22:36:51 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:36:51 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Hidrogis In-Reply-To: <49456d7404110901161016827b@mail.gmail.com> References: <49456d7404110901161016827b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20041111213651.GB4828@intevation.de> Hi Maurizio, On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:16:01AM +0100, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > HidroSIG is a GIS that supports raster and vectorial maps with modules > oriented to the hydrological analysis, time series, remote sensing and > more. It has been made 100% in java using VisAD for data visualization > and using MySQL to storage all data. > Web site: > http://cancerbero.unalmed.edu.co/~hidrosig/ingles/ > Note: > - the project is hosted on sourceforge and is under GPL license > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidrosig/ > - the software is in java (so http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html) thanks for the hint. I just added it to FreeGIS.org. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From lists at webmapit.com.br Fri Nov 12 02:53:29 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:53:29 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Hidrogis In-Reply-To: <20041111213651.GB4828@intevation.de> References: <20041111213651.GB4828@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20041112015329.24402.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> I'm downloading the software manual ( and will take some time :-) , but I wanted to know if the "Hydrological balances, estimation of maximum discharges and minimum discharges in river basins from maps of climatic variables." characteristic refers to Penman-Monteith techniques or something similar . thanks in advance. Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:36:51 +0100, Jan-Oliver Wagner escreveu: > De: Jan-Oliver Wagner > Data: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:36:51 +0100 > Para: freegis-list at intevation.de > Assunto: Re: [Freegis-list] Hidrogis > > Hi Maurizio, > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:16:01AM +0100, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > > HidroSIG is a GIS that supports raster and vectorial maps with modules > > oriented to the hydrological analysis, time series, remote sensing and > > more. It has been made 100% in java using VisAD for data visualization > > and using MySQL to storage all data. > > Web site: > > http://cancerbero.unalmed.edu.co/~hidrosig/ingles/ > > Note: > > - the project is hosted on sourceforge and is under GPL license > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hidrosig/ > > - the software is in java (so http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html) > > thanks for the hint. > I just added it to FreeGIS.org. > > Jan > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > From expert at scs-net.org Fri Nov 12 12:32:40 2004 From: expert at scs-net.org (Mr.Labani) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:32:40 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] I need MapServer & MapScript Web Hosting Message-ID: <000f01c4c8ab$73116860$6003010a@EXPERT2> Can you help me please I need free or low cost MapServer & MapScript Web Hosting From yyxxuu at gmail.com Sat Nov 13 02:20:16 2004 From: yyxxuu at gmail.com (s liu) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:20:16 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL format Message-ID: Hi guys, I am writing my own terrain rendering engine in C/Linux. But I need some helps in reading the BIL or GeoTiff format. I found it a formidable task to tackle this problem from scratch. I wonder if there is any existing open source readers for these formats that I can use? Any suggestions? Thanks, yxu From pramsey at refractions.net Sat Nov 13 02:34:44 2004 From: pramsey at refractions.net (Paul Ramsey) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:34:44 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <322CB19D-3514-11D9-A32C-000D933AAB34@refractions.net> http://gdal.maptools.org On 12-Nov-04, at 5:20 PM, s liu wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am writing my own terrain rendering engine in C/Linux. But I need > some helps in reading the BIL or GeoTiff format. I found it a > formidable task to tackle this problem from scratch. I wonder if > there is any existing open source readers for these formats that I can > use? > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > yxu > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From aharries at landmarkgeomatics.com Fri Nov 12 16:20:32 2004 From: aharries at landmarkgeomatics.com (Landmark Geomatics Inc.) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] xyz to arcgis grid conversion? Message-ID: <000801c4c8cb$340314f0$32059044@Landmark> Wondering if anyone had any info, on finding a script that might do this. I've been looking but haven't found anything. Thanks Andrew Andrew Harries Landmark Geomatics Inc. Tel: (403) 990-3636 Fax: (403) 398-0664 aharries at landmarkgeomatics.com www.landmarkgeomatics.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041112/02fc5d8c/attachment.html From bartvde at xs4all.nl Sun Nov 14 11:18:13 2004 From: bartvde at xs4all.nl (Bart van den Eijnden) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:18:13 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] xyz to arcgis grid conversion? In-Reply-To: <000801c4c8cb$340314f0$32059044@Landmark> References: <000801c4c8cb$340314f0$32059044@Landmark> Message-ID: Hi, there was a similar thread in July 2004, you might want to check with that person if he has found a solution as there were no replies back then on the list (maybe off-list): http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2004-July/001803.html Best regards, Bart On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:20:32 -0700, Landmark Geomatics Inc. wrote: > Wondering if anyone had any info, on finding a script that might do > this. I've been looking but haven't found anything. > Thanks > Andrew > Andrew Harries > Landmark Geomatics Inc. > Tel: (403) 990-3636 > Fax: (403) 398-0664 > aharries at landmarkgeomatics.com > www.landmarkgeomatics.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From viveka.weiley at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 11:23:34 2004 From: viveka.weiley at gmail.com (Viveka Weiley) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:23:34 +1100 Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3517424c041114022372e71548@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:20:16 -0800, s liu wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am writing my own terrain rendering engine in C/Linux. But I need > some helps in reading the BIL or GeoTiff format. I found it a > formidable task to tackle this problem from scratch. I wonder if > there is any existing open source readers for these formats that I can > use? 3map:rez reads BIL using the ParseAVBil plugin and converts it to a variety of formats. We mostly use it to generate multiresolution VRML scenes, but it can do other tricks too. http://old.ping.com.au/3map/rez/ It's open source, take a look around. Regards, V. -- Viveka Weiley, Karmanaut.http://www.karmanaut.com For a Free Geospace: http://www.ping.com.au VR on the Mac: http://www.MacWeb3D.org From ben at vterrain.org Sun Nov 14 19:29:38 2004 From: ben at vterrain.org (Ben Discoe) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:29:38 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] xyz to arcgis grid conversion? Message-ID: <1100456978.11508@cyclone.he.net> Andrew, You didn't specify what kind of XYZ point data you have. It is points in a grid, or it is sparse points which will need to be interpolated into a TIN or a grid? If so, what form are you looking to have the data in ArcGIS - a grid, a TIN, or something else? -Ben > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:20:32 -0700, Landmark Geomatics Inc. > wrote: > > > Wondering if anyone had any info, on finding a script that might do > > this. I've been looking but haven't found anything. > > Thanks > > Andrew > > Andrew Harries > > Landmark Geomatics Inc. From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de Mon Nov 15 10:26:51 2004 From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:26:51 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client In-Reply-To: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> References: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> Message-ID: <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> Roland G. wrote: > Hello, > > I'm searching for a good, free software WMS client. It should be SLD > enabled. There is a list at the freegis website but are there clients > who are not on that list? Also, which of the WMS clients on that list > are SLD enabled? I did a search for SLD on the freegis software page and > it returned 0 results. > > I know some companies offer free clients, but most of them are > not free software(source code is available under a free software license). > > Thanks for any feedback, > > Roland > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > Hi, version 1.0.1 of the Mapbender framework has been added to the FreeGIS site some time ago. Its a server side PHP/JavaScript HTML web front end for WMS, WTS, some WFS and supports user, GUI and project management. The currently available stable version is 2.0. In the development version we have added SLD to the data model and already support some basic stuff. As more user needs arise it will be enhanced further. Drop us an note with your ideas if you are interested. Mapbender is Free Software licensed under the GNU GPL. Regards, Arnulf. -- ------------------------ Arnulf B. Christl ------------------------ http://www.ccgis.de http://www.mapbender.org ------------------------ From mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de Mon Nov 15 10:57:36 2004 From: mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:57:36 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Reminder: GRASS Users Survey 2004 Message-ID: <200411151057.36400.mailinglist2_wegmann@web.de> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [GRASSLIST:4834] Reminder: GRASS Users Survey 2004 Date: Monday 15 November 2004 10:18 Dear all, Thank you to all those (223) who have already responded to the GRASS Users Survey 2004 ! We hope that those who haven't taken the time will still do so before the November 30th. As a reminder, here's the original announcement: In order to collect up-to-date information on the GRASS user base and evaluate the current releases of GRASS, we are launching the GRASS Users Survey 2004. You can find the questionnaire at http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass_survey/ It should take around 10 min. Please take this time in order to help us know your needs and make GRASS even better ! Please forward this mail to any localized GRASS mailing list you might be subscribed to subscribed to one of the lists as well as to any individual GRASS users that are not subscribed to any list. The results will published in the next issue of GRASS News (http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/index.html). Thank you ! Martin Wegmann and Moritz Lennert ------------------------------------------------------- From roland at gisplan.com.br Tue Nov 16 14:43:27 2004 From: roland at gisplan.com.br (Roland G.) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:43:27 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client In-Reply-To: <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> References: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> Message-ID: <419A03FF.3090507@gisplan.com.br> Arnulf Christl wrote: > Hi, > version 1.0.1 of the Mapbender framework has been added to the FreeGIS > site some time ago. Its a server side PHP/JavaScript HTML web front end > for WMS, WTS, some WFS and supports user, GUI and project management. > The currently available stable version is 2.0. In the development > version we have added SLD to the data model and already support some Yes, I had already found Mapbender in the FreeGIS site. It looks very good, in fact, of all the clients I have examined I think it is one of the best if not the best. I suppose the SLD will be usable trough the webclient also? Which institutions are actively developing MapBender nowadays? Roland G. From roland at gisplan.com.br Tue Nov 16 15:01:11 2004 From: roland at gisplan.com.br (Roland G.) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:01:11 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client In-Reply-To: <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> References: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> Message-ID: <419A0827.9070304@gisplan.com.br> Arnulf Christl wrote: > The currently available stable version is 2.0. In the development > version we have added SLD to the data model and already support some > basic stuff. As more user needs arise it will be enhanced further. Drop > us an note with your ideas if you are interested. Some thoughts about the SLD implementation: For me an SLD client should offer the user the possibility to adjust the SLD parameters through the GUI. For example he should be able to adjust line thickness and color. Of course this makes the GUI very complex, because for every SLD option there must be a corresponding widget. A much simpler option would be to allow the client to send just the link to the SLD file to the server. But then you still would have to edit the SLD file with another tool. IMHO I wouldn't call this client really SLD enabled. What are your thoughts on this? Roland G. From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de Tue Nov 16 18:38:59 2004 From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:38:59 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client In-Reply-To: <419A0827.9070304@gisplan.com.br> References: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> <419A0827.9070304@gisplan.com.br> Message-ID: <419A3B33.4030708@ccgis.de> Roland G. wrote: > Arnulf Christl wrote: > >> The currently available stable version is 2.0. In the development >> version we have added SLD to the data model and already support some >> basic stuff. As more user needs arise it will be enhanced further. >> Drop us an note with your ideas if you are interested. > > > Some thoughts about the SLD implementation: For me an SLD client should > offer the user the possibility to adjust the SLD parameters through the > GUI. For example he should be able to adjust line thickness and color. > Of course this makes the GUI very complex, because for every SLD option > there must be a corresponding widget. > > A much simpler option would be to allow the client to send just the link > to the SLD file to the server. But then you still would have to edit the > SLD file with another tool. IMHO I wouldn't call this client really SLD > enabled. > > What are your thoughts on this? > > Roland G. > Hi, thanks for the input. You are right, we are also thinking about implementing an interface with color picker, linewidth selection, etc. The problem is that all data usually needs special interfaces, so that a generic implementation either results in an ugly interface, or needs a lot of individual configuration. Currently our main focus in Mapbender lies on supporting more WFS functionality, especially adding a generic gazetteer and adding a catalog. To discuss further details I suggest we move this thread to the Mapbender user mailing list if you don't mind. We will be adding a black board to the Mapbender website showing current develoment threads and status of implementation. Best regards, Arnulf. From cavallini at faunalia.it Tue Nov 16 18:48:04 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:48:04 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] openmodeller Message-ID: <200411161848.07574.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I came across an interesting piece of softwre, called OpenModeller, supposed to help predict species distribution (fundamental niche). It is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openmodeller It is GPL, uses proj, and the authors would be interested in making it usable together with (from within?) grass. Anybody willing to cooperate? All the best. pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBmj1U/NedwLUzIr4RAsocAJ9IbKJ4yhUtAcJYTFSfgs1djKUoFACgoUC9 q/rd9BlBfGLJ3CDar97wGVc= =Q7ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cavallini at faunalia.it Tue Nov 16 19:08:53 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:08:53 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] openmodeller Message-ID: <200411161908.57698.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Upon closer inspection, I found that OpenModeller can be compiled as a plugin for qgis. This makes my previous mail rather useless, but the program more interesting. All the best. pc =========================================== Hi all. I came across an interesting piece of softwre, called OpenModeller, supposed to help predict species distribution (fundamental niche). It is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openmodeller It is GPL, uses proj, and the authors would be interested in making it usable together with (from within?) grass. Anybody willing to cooperate? All the best. pc - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBmkI1/NedwLUzIr4RAm4jAJ0ZLjaB9CcLotM888uIKd8Fiq7HwQCgjXSz AdIhCNl4178UlZX07s6CWkE= =xaJG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de Tue Nov 16 19:47:01 2004 From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:47:01 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Seeking free software WMS client In-Reply-To: <419A03FF.3090507@gisplan.com.br> References: <4190DCA3.5090401@gisplan.com.br> <4198765B.1070009@ccgis.de> <419A03FF.3090507@gisplan.com.br> Message-ID: <419A4B25.2050706@ccgis.de> Roland G. wrote: > Arnulf Christl wrote: > >> Hi, >> version 1.0.1 of the Mapbender framework has been added to the FreeGIS >> site some time ago. Its a server side PHP/JavaScript HTML web front >> end for WMS, WTS, some WFS and supports user, GUI and project >> management. The currently available stable version is 2.0. In the >> development version we have added SLD to the data model and already >> support some > > > Yes, I had already found Mapbender in the FreeGIS site. It looks very > good, in fact, of all the clients I have examined I think it is one of > the best if not the best. > Many thanx for the comment, you humble us. Hope we can keep up to the expectations... :-) > I suppose the SLD will be usable trough the webclient also? > We have not yet implemented a generic color picker, width selecion, etc. We believe that it will depend heavily on the semantics of the data. We'll continue this thread on the Mapbender user list, if you don't mind. > Which institutions are actively developing MapBender nowadays? The companies CCGIS, terrestris, KARTA.GO, M&G Ingenieure, the data center KRZ Minden-Ravensberg/Lippe, and the on and off freelance programmer. It is beeing *used* by some of the larger proprietary GIS companies to test and integrate their services together with competitors as it is vendor independent. Unexplicably there has been no return flow on that one though... It boils down to three core developers and 6 working part time on extensions, two people working part time on the docs and tutorials, two admins straightening all the many services and helping with installations around it here in Germany. I don't know about any international developers, except one guy in Australia, therefore a lot of internal disussion is still going on in German. This shouldn't prevent anybody from joining in, we also talk some English. There are around 50 customers worldwide that I know of who largely just use the software. The old version 1.4 has been translated to 6 languages including a Chinese interface. Best regards, Arnulf. > > Roland G. > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > -- ------------------------ Arnulf B. Christl ------------------------ http://www.ccgis.de http://www.mapbender.org ------------------------ From yyxxuu at gmail.com Wed Nov 17 02:57:05 2004 From: yyxxuu at gmail.com (yxu) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:57:05 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL format In-Reply-To: <3517424c041114022372e71548@mail.gmail.com> References: <3517424c041114022372e71548@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Viveka Weiley and Paul Ramsey for their prompt and helpful answers. Right now I am trying to work on the GDAL package. After reading some documents I am still quite confused on how to use the library. While I have no problem getting the GDAL to load my gtiff hight map, I still don't know how to convert the lat-long coordinates into UTM. The OGR tutorial posted on the web ( http://www.gdal.org/ogr/osr_tutorial.html) is not very clear to me. Can some one help me out by puting things together? I will be more than happy if one can show the example using the C interface. Thanks YXU On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:23:34 +1100, Viveka Weiley wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:20:16 -0800, s liu wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I am writing my own terrain rendering engine in C/Linux. But I need > > some helps in reading the BIL or GeoTiff format. I found it a > > formidable task to tackle this problem from scratch. I wonder if > > there is any existing open source readers for these formats that I can > > use? > > 3map:rez reads BIL using the ParseAVBil plugin and converts it to a > variety of formats. We mostly use it to generate multiresolution VRML > scenes, but it can do other tricks too. > http://old.ping.com.au/3map/rez/ > It's open source, take a look around. > > Regards, > > V. > -- > Viveka Weiley, Karmanaut.http://www.karmanaut.com > For a Free Geospace: http://www.ping.com.au > VR on the Mac: http://www.MacWeb3D.org > From ari.jolma at hut.fi Wed Nov 17 11:52:51 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:52:51 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] C library for raster algebra Message-ID: <419B2D83.9060804@hut.fi> Hi all, I repackaged the raster algebra / hydrological terrain analysis C library from my old Grid.pm Perl module into a separate module and uploaded it to sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libral/ By repackaging I mean support for the standard GNU build system (./configure; make; make install). One reason for doing that was my colleague's effort in making a MapWindow (www.mapwindow.com) add-on from the library. Mapwindow is not free as in freedom, thus it would be nice to prepare for example a QGIS add-from the library. Another reason is my intention of writing chapters into freegisbook. In those chapters I will use the library and its Perl interface for examples. To make the raster algebra functionality useful really requires a high-level language interface, thus the Perl module. Maybe somebody is interested in making a Python interface? I am fond of using the library through Perl in interactive Perl shell but for casual users the shell should be somehow integrated with a GIS. I'm going to eventually upload my Perl module to CPAN as something like Geo::RasterAlgebra. I categorized the library as "production/stable" in sourceforge but it would benefit from more development attention: - the i/o of the library is not very good, there is support for ESRI .hdr / BIL format and something else but it is assumed that if the library is linked to a system, the system should provide those services - the library supports only two data types: short (two byte int) and float (four byte real) and the whole raster is stored in RAM as one large block, this is for simplicity, speed, and size - the terrain/hydrological analysis library is rather experimental and not complete I welcome new developers for the project as well as ideas and suggestions for how to integrate the library to other freegis software and make it interoperable. libral is GPL software. Cheers, Ari -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma From expert at scs-net.org Wed Nov 17 20:20:28 2004 From: expert at scs-net.org (Mr.Labani) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:20:28 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free DEM file for Middle east Message-ID: <000401c4cd23$2922ea40$9304010a@EXPERT2> I Need Free DEM file for Middle East From ral at alum.mit.edu Fri Nov 19 13:48:48 2004 From: ral at alum.mit.edu (Roger Longhorn) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:48:48 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Source in Developing Nations Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20041119124520.01275e20@pop.freeserve.com> F.Y.I. from the Information for Development (i4d) news list this week. Are these the countries/regions most ready to adopt open source GIS as well? I would have thought that the size of the Indian market for GIS alone would warrant an national-level initiative on their part to finally divorce them from dependence on ESRI, et al. Regards Roger Longhorn ral at alum.mit.edu ================= OPEN SOURCE ---------- Insurance majors in India to shift to Linux In India, three of the four government-owned general insurance majors - National Insurance Co, United Insurance and New India Assurance, have decided to use Linux as the backend operating system on which will run their core insurance solutions. http://www.i4donline.net/news1.asp?fol_name=News1&file_name=news235 Now a television programme on open source! The South Africa-based 'Go Open Source' campaign is filming the world's first television series dedicated to open source software. http://www.i4donline.net/news1.asp?fol_name=O_Source&file_name=src40 Roger A. 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URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041119/80e3a6c0/attachment.html From pcreso at pcreso.com Sat Nov 20 21:52:05 2004 From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:52:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] MS applies to patent the IsNot operator In-Reply-To: <200411161908.57698.cavallini@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <20041120205205.36589.qmail@web12207.mail.yahoo.com> Apologies to intruding with a political post here, but this patent application from MS may have some ramifications for people here... http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040230959&RS=DN/20040230959 Brent Wood From cavallini at faunalia.it Mon Nov 22 09:59:52 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:59:52 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: [Libregis-prepare] [EDRI] European geographical data at a very high price? Message-ID: <200411220959.55315.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 FYI ============================================================ 6. European geographical data at a very high price? ============================================================ Advocates of open source tools that use geographical data (GIS) are concerned about a new directive proposed by the European Commission on the use of governmental geospatial data. The INSPIRE Directive, adopted by the Commission in July 2004, aims to establish a spatial information infrastructure in Europe. It covers 30 broad types of data, such as (the location and the 3D descriptors of) buildings, forests, rivers, mountains, transport networks, all kinds of territorial definitions (names, postcodes, population and distribution of species) and all kinds of environmental indicators, such as occurrence of epidemics, pollution etc. Critics say the consultation process has been unrepresentative, and fear that the proposed directive gives too much power to government data collection and licensing agencies. They argue that the directive imposes unnecessary costs and that the end result will benefit government agencies, rather than citizens or the industry. Geographic data should be made available free of licensing costs, they argue, for example to help develop grassroots level campaigns and election monitoring enhanced with geographic data and maps. Currently, in the UK for example, it costs almost 3.000 euro per year to license a simple postcode look-up service. Spatial data forms a core high-value part of the information produced by the public sector. Though the proposed directive contains a non-prejudice clause to Directive 2003/98/EC on the re-use of public sector information, it seems to undermine its core principles. This 2003 Directive contains rules on transparency, standard and non-exclusive licences, appeal provisions, an upper limit for charging, etc. and is currently being implemented by member states. In contrast, the INSPIRE Directive gives responsibility to an expert group, together with Member States, to set a common geospatial data licensing and cost policy and to provide e-commerce services for 'data availability'. The rapporteur from the European Parliament for this Directive will be the Belgian christian-democrat Mme Frederika Brepoels (EPP-ED), in the Committee on Environment, Public Health and Food Safety. According to the Legislative Observatory from the European Parliament, there will only be 1 reading by Parliament, and the Committee is expected to adopt its opinion on 15 March 2005. INSPIRE http://europa.eu.int/comm/environment/geo/ Critical analysis of the INSPIRE Directive http://space.frot.org/docs/inspire_directive.html European Commission pages on public sector information http://europa.eu.int/information_society/policy/psi/index_en.htm ePSINet, European Public Sector Information Network http://www.epsigate.org/ (Thanks to Teresa Hackett, Ireland, and Andrea Glorioso, Italy) - ------------------- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBoaqI/NedwLUzIr4RAoEhAJ47vnxCvbmBQG/7tDuig63DfYRDnQCfbUnB 7HoTsU96DGVVTVhUye4cUwk= =f5nq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ari.jolma at hut.fi Tue Nov 23 15:21:33 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:21:33 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Mapwindow GIS becomes Open Source? Message-ID: <41A3476D.20007@hut.fi> I just saw this interesting announcement on the MapWindow website http://www.mapwindow.com/download.html Hopefully the new licence is a decent one. Ari -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma From Julia.Harrell at ncmail.net Tue Nov 23 18:53:02 2004 From: Julia.Harrell at ncmail.net (Julia.Harrell@ncmail.net) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:53:02 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <41A28E1900000244@ms02.ncmail.net> Greetings Listers, Is anyone aware of any OGC compliant web mapping viewers that can be deployed inside/with JSR-168 portlets, more specifically the JASIG uPortal product ? Any pointers to working implementations or even projects still in development would be much appreciated. Sincerely, Julia Harrell GIS Coordinator NC Dept. Environment & Natural Resources julia.harrell at ncmail.net From jidanni at jidanni.org Fri Nov 19 19:57:21 2004 From: jidanni at jidanni.org (Dan Jacobson) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:57:21 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] bus route maps Message-ID: <87y8gxd5v2.fsf@jidanni.org> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to sci.geo.cartography as well. All I know is many cities have crappy bus route maps. Apparently they can't fit all their routes onto the same map without information overload. If there are Free GIS professors looking for projects to give their students, have them make good bus route maps. If one must do a single route route map, it should not be distorted, and should show how the route fits in to the background streets. From ari.jolma at tkk.fi Mon Nov 22 20:23:47 2004 From: ari.jolma at tkk.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:23:47 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] C library for raster algebra In-Reply-To: <419B2D83.9060804@hut.fi> References: <419B2D83.9060804@hut.fi> Message-ID: <41A23CC3.2080802@tkk.fi> I wrote: > Hi all, > > I repackaged the raster algebra / hydrological terrain analysis C > library from my old Grid.pm Perl module into a separate module and > uploaded it to sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libral/ I renamed the Grid.pm as Geo::Raster.pm and uploaded it to CPAN. The Grid entry in freegis.org should now be removed or at least deprecated and replaced with libral and Geo::Raster. Cheers, Ari P.S. > > I categorized the library as "production/stable" in sourceforge but it > would benefit from more development attention: > > - the i/o of the library is not very good, there is support for ESRI > .hdr / BIL format and something else but it is assumed that if the > library is linked to a system, the system should provide those services > - the library supports only two data types: short (two byte int) and > float (four byte real) and the whole raster is stored in RAM as one > large block, this is for simplicity, speed, and size > - the terrain/hydrological analysis library is rather experimental and > not complete in addition to these, - libral requires that you work with grids of same size and same location (identical world coordinates) - libral is not interested in projections, i.e. it assumes they are same in all grids -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma/ From dwmuriu at tm.nagasaki-u.ac.jp Mon Nov 15 07:41:23 2004 From: dwmuriu at tm.nagasaki-u.ac.jp (David Muriu) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:41:23 +0900 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp Message-ID: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> Please tell me how to make a shape file using gen2shp program in Windows O/S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041115/3bee3861/attachment.html From Ken.Waters at noaa.gov Wed Nov 24 18:52:32 2004 From: Ken.Waters at noaa.gov (Ken Waters) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:52:32 -1000 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp References: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> Message-ID: <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> David, I use this application on both Win XP as well as Linux to create shapefiles. To properly use this program you need to have ESRI "gen"-format files to use as input. Examples can be found on the gen2shp webpage (http://www.intevation.de/~jan/gen2shp). I wrote a Perl program which put my geographic information into the gen format. Pretty much all the information you need (including binary downloads) can be found on the webpage noted above. You'll probably have to write some custom code as I did to produce the gen-format files unless you're just doing this as a one-time shot and edit the text file by hand (ugh..). One warning...on the webpage above there's discussion about loading the "dbf" files using txt2dbf. I'm not sure if this application is available for Windows. I was able to build "txt2dbf" on a Linux box and use it there to load attributes into the "dbf" file. For Windows I've been able to build shapefiles using just "gen2shp" without loading the "dbf" files. This works fine for -most- GIS programs such as AV 3.1 and 9.0 (but -not- ArcIMS!). Hope this helps. Ken David Muriu wrote: > Please tell me how to make a shape file using gen2shp program in > Windows O/S. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041124/8fd7817e/attachment.html From Ken.Waters at noaa.gov Thu Nov 25 09:27:07 2004 From: Ken.Waters at noaa.gov (Ken Waters) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:27:07 -1000 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp In-Reply-To: <41A58493.9090602@hut.fi> References: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> <41A58493.9090602@hut.fi> Message-ID: <41A5975B.5020000@noaa.gov> Hi Ari, I believe I tried that route already. I think the problem may have been that I couldn't find the shapelib C library compiled for Windows. I looked for Windows binaries for the shapelib library but didn't find them. Your documentation points to a URL (http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/shapelib/index.html) for the required shapefile C library. I get a dead link when I try to access this URL. I think that was why I gave up before and tried the 'gen2shp' option. Is there another location for this library? If a CPAN module can do it all, in Windows, then I'm on board! Thanks, Ken Ari Jolma wrote: > Ken Waters wrote: > >> gen2shp webpage (http://www.intevation.de/~jan/gen2shp >> ). I wrote a Perl program >> which put my geographic information into the gen format. >> > > This sounds a bit cumbersome because you can write shapefiles directly > from Perl. You could just use my Geo::Shapelib (which is a thin Perl > interface to shapelib C library) or some of the other modules under > the Geo:: namespace in CPAN. > > Ari > From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 25 09:34:11 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:34:11 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp In-Reply-To: <41A5975B.5020000@noaa.gov> References: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> <41A58493.9090602@hut.fi> <41A5975B.5020000@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <20041125083411.GA31659@intevation.de> On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 10:27:07PM -1000, Ken Waters wrote: > I believe I tried that route already. I think the problem may have been > that I couldn't find the shapelib C library compiled for Windows. I > looked for Windows binaries for the shapelib library but didn't find > them. Your documentation points to a URL > (http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/shapelib/index.html) for the required > shapefile C library. I get a dead link when I try to access this URL. > I think that was why I gave up before and tried the 'gen2shp' option. > Is there another location for this library? All gdal realted stuff went to www.gdal.org. However, shapelib is at http://shapelib.maptools.org/ > If a CPAN module can do it all, in Windows, then I'm on board! And it should even be easy to do it now with python bindings. I welcome any pointers to routines that are easier than good old gen2shp. I will list them on the gen2shp homepage. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de Thu Nov 25 10:01:59 2004 From: mailinglist2_wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:01:59 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: [GRASS5] Last Call: GRASS Users Survey 2004 Message-ID: <200411251001.59895.mailinglist2_wegmann@web.de> Dear all, This is the last call for participation in the GRASS Users Survey. Thank you to all those (264) who have already responded ! We hope that those who haven't taken the time will still do so before the November 30th. As a reminder, here's the original announcement: In order to collect up-to-date information on the GRASS user base and evaluate the current releases of GRASS, we are launching the GRASS Users Survey 2004. You can find the questionnaire at http://moritz.homelinux.org/grass_survey/ It should take around 10 min. 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Martin Wegmann and Moritz Lennert _______________________________________________ grass5 mailing list grass5 at grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grass5 ------------------------------------------------------- From warmerdam at pobox.com Thu Nov 25 15:32:42 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:32:42 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp In-Reply-To: <41A5975B.5020000@noaa.gov> References: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> <41A58493.9090602@hut.fi> <41A5975B.5020000@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <41A5ED0A.5090102@pobox.com> Ken Waters wrote: > Hi Ari, > > I believe I tried that route already. I think the problem may have been > that I couldn't find the shapelib C library compiled for Windows. I > looked for Windows binaries for the shapelib library but didn't find > them. Your documentation points to a URL > (http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/shapelib/index.html) for the required > shapefile C library. I get a dead link when I try to access this URL. > I think that was why I gave up before and tried the 'gen2shp' option. > Is there another location for this library? > > If a CPAN module can do it all, in Windows, then I'm on board! Folks, By the way, the authoritative url for shapelib is now: http://shapelib.maptools.org/ Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From roland at gisplan.com.br Thu Nov 25 21:03:39 2004 From: roland at gisplan.com.br (Roland G.) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:03:39 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Web WMS-client: 2-tier vs 3-tier architecture Message-ID: <41A63A9B.8020808@gisplan.com.br> Hello, sorry if the following has already been discussed in this list, but I just wanted to reword the whole problem in a clear manner in the hope of obtaining additional input. I want to know which are the specific advantages and disadvantages of the 2-tier vs the 3-tier architecture, read on: We are considering one of the several available Web WMS clients available. I define a Web WMS client as a program that runs in a browser, using JavaScript and HTML only(we want a client without applets or plugins). Since you need a Web server to serve the WMS client from the following entities will be involved in all cases: 1) The Web server(this is from where you download the WMS client to your browser) 2) The WMS server. 3) The WMS client(which will be downloaded from the web server and run in your browser) Possible architectures: 2-tier: After the WMS client has been downloaded to the browser it doesn't interact with the Web server anymore. From then on all the interaction will go on between the WMS client and the WMS-server only. Characteristics: -Lots of JavaScript. More processing on the client side. -Static client, won't be updated after initial download. -Few processing on the web-server(only serves intial download). Good if many simultaneous users since it relieves the server. -genuine WMS CLIENT 3-tier: After the WMS client has been downloaded to the browser, it sends all it's requests to the Web-server, which will forward them to the WMS server. The WMS server will send the response back to the web server. The web server can then process the data and send the final response back to the WMS client. In this case the WMS client can also be altered after each request to the web server. Characteristics: -Fewer JavaScript, simpler client -More processing on the web-server(if lots of users danger of overloading the server) -more powerful processing possible since not limited to JavaScript on the browser -Client not static, can be altered during the process. -spurious WMS client(doesn't interact with a WMS server directly) Any additonal thoughts on the characteristics/advantages/disadvantages of each architecture? Thanks, Roland From redslob at land.uni-hannover.de Wed Nov 24 10:17:02 2004 From: redslob at land.uni-hannover.de (Manfred Redslob) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:17:02 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] New GRASS-Books Message-ID: <1101287822.12055@magnolia.land.uni-hannover.de> Dear GRASS-Users, we like to inform you about new GRASS-Books: 1) The book Open source GIS: A GRASS GIS Approach, 2nd Edition 2004 by Markus Neteler and Helena Mitasova, Kluwer Academics Publisher, ISBN 1-4020-8064-6 If you like, you can buy it at every bookshop or order it online at www.gdf-hannover.de/gis.php?id=3 (79,90 Euro + shipping coast). We guess it is a nice price. 2) The book GRASS 5.7 Script (german language) edited by GDF Hannover published by the Editor, GNU FDL You can order this script at the link above (22,90 Euro + shipping coast). Because this script is licensed under GNU FDL, you also can freely download it. A translation of this script is in process, so you can get a english version later on. With kind regards, Manfred Redslob From ari.jolma at hut.fi Thu Nov 25 08:06:59 2004 From: ari.jolma at hut.fi (Ari Jolma) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:06:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] shape file with gen2shp In-Reply-To: <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> References: <000801c4cade$1fd43d50$67e12d85@jica460c46b224> <41A4CA60.14A2094E@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <41A58493.9090602@hut.fi> Ken Waters wrote: > gen2shp webpage (http://www.intevation.de/~jan/gen2shp > ). I wrote a Perl program > which put my geographic information into the gen format. > This sounds a bit cumbersome because you can write shapefiles directly from Perl. You could just use my Geo::Shapelib (which is a thin Perl interface to shapelib C library) or some of the other modules under the Geo:: namespace in CPAN. Ari -- Ari Jolma, ari.jolma at hut.fi, Professor of Geoinformatics Helsinki University of Technology POBox 1200, 02015 TKK, Finland http://www.hut.fi/~jolma