From guano at usp.br Wed Dec 1 16:11:09 2004 From: guano at usp.br (Carlos Henrique Grohmann) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:11:09 -0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] anaglyph Message-ID: <1101913869.41addf0d36332@webmail.usp.br> Hello all, I'd like to create anaglyphs of my DEMs, but I don't know how. I'm working with GRASS 5.4 in Linux. Can anyone help me? I have searched the net bu haven't found much, so if anyone could indicate me a site or a paper wch describes the process, I'd be very thankfull. Thanks again Carlos Grohmann -- +-------------------------------------------------+ Carlos Henrique Grohmann - Guano Geologist M.Sc - PhD Student at IGc-USP - Brazil Linux User #89721 - guano at usp dot br - +-------------------------------------------------+ From jan at intevation.de Wed Dec 1 23:46:54 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:46:54 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Mapwindow GIS becomes Open Source? In-Reply-To: <41A3476D.20007@hut.fi> References: <41A3476D.20007@hut.fi> Message-ID: <20041201224654.GD24979@intevation.de> On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 04:21:33PM +0200, Ari Jolma wrote: > I just saw this interesting announcement on the MapWindow website > http://www.mapwindow.com/download.html > Hopefully the new licence is a decent one. I hope so too. My strong recomendation is to apply one of the standard licenses. At least it really should be GPL compatible. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From neteler at itc.it Thu Dec 2 13:36:13 2004 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:36:13 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] anaglyph In-Reply-To: <1101913869.41addf0d36332@webmail.usp.br> References: <1101913869.41addf0d36332@webmail.usp.br> Message-ID: <20041202123613.GQ21994@thuille.itc.it> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:11:09PM -0200, Carlos Henrique Grohmann wrote: > Hello all, > > I'd like to create anaglyphs of my DEMs, but I don't know how. I'm working with > GRASS 5.4 in Linux. Can anyone help me? I have searched the net bu haven't > found much, so if anyone could indicate me a site or a paper wch describes the > process, I'd be very thankfull. > Thanks again Hi Carlos, I was playing with that some time ago (using GRASS): http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/users/neteler/stereo/welcome.html The procedure is roughly described. Best Markus From jmacgill at gmail.com Thu Dec 2 16:47:04 2004 From: jmacgill at gmail.com (James Macgill) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:47:04 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] geotools.org domain down Message-ID: <7177f53804120207476b43ea64@mail.gmail.com> This is a short announcement for anyone who may have wondered what has happened to www.geotools.org and related sites. A little over a week ago our domain registrar (Easyspace) deleted much of the domains configuration without warning or (so far) explanation. As a result all of the x.geotools.org domains are off line. They are ignoring support requests and will not give out a phone number so it may be some time before geotools.org is back up and running. As a stop gap measure the following url will work: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/ On that page you will also find details of a workaround for connecting to svn.geotools.org (our source code repository) We had hoped to be releasing GeoTools 2.0 around this time but we will hold off until the DNS issues are resolved. All the best James Macgill From yyxxuu at gmail.com Thu Dec 2 19:09:57 2004 From: yyxxuu at gmail.com (yxu) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:09:57 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] GDAL, reading arcinfo binary grid format Message-ID: Hi guys, I am trying to use GDAL to access arcinfo binary grid format (adf). While I have no problem reading the height field file, I can't read the image (color) file. It is my understanding that the color fields needed to be interpreted by a color table, right? But the adf file doesn't seem to contain a color table? I can verify that by using utility program "gdalinfo", which shows no color table. Can any one tell what is happening here? Thanks in advance, yan From warmerdam at pobox.com Thu Dec 2 19:17:41 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:17:41 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] GDAL, reading arcinfo binary grid format In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41AF5C45.8070503@pobox.com> yxu wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am trying to use GDAL to access arcinfo binary grid format (adf). > While I have no problem reading the height field file, I can't read > the image (color) file. It is my understanding that the color fields > needed to be interpreted by a color table, right? But the adf file > doesn't seem to contain a color table? I can verify that by using > utility program "gdalinfo", which shows no color table. > > Can any one tell what is happening here? > > Thanks in advance, Yan, This message might be more specifically sent to the gdal-dev mailing list. The GDAL AIG driver does have at least partial support for reading the .clr file and translating into a colormap. Do you have a .clr file with your .adf files? If not then the dataset apparently lacks a color table. If so, consider submitting a bug report via the GDAL bugzilla with in formation on how to get the dataset in question. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From jburnett at e-masi.com Thu Dec 2 19:22:53 2004 From: jburnett at e-masi.com (Jim Burnett) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] geotools.org domain down In-Reply-To: <7177f53804120207476b43ea64@mail.gmail.com> References: <7177f53804120207476b43ea64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41AF5D7D.9060701@e-masi.com> If you need a temp DNS hoster let me know. James Macgill wrote: >This is a short announcement for anyone who may have wondered what has >happened to www.geotools.org and related sites. A little over a week >ago our domain registrar (Easyspace) deleted much of the domains >configuration without warning or (so far) explanation. As a result >all of the x.geotools.org domains are off line. > >They are ignoring support requests and will not give out a phone >number so it may be some time before geotools.org is back up and >running. > >As a stop gap measure the following url will work: > >http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/ > >On that page you will also find details of a workaround for connecting >to svn.geotools.org (our source code repository) > >We had hoped to be releasing GeoTools 2.0 around this time but we will >hold off until the DNS issues are resolved. > >All the best > >James Macgill > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > From pcreso at pcreso.com Fri Dec 10 02:10:45 2004 From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:10:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] Which OS GIS package to edit/query shapefiles? Message-ID: <20041210011045.47150.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> I have a coastline as a shapefile. I want to draw lines across various bays.estuaries & harbours to determine their areas. Is there an OS GIS tool that will let me graphically interact with the data, draw lines with the mouse, merge these lines with existing lines/polygons and define the new polygons to derive the areas? I can see a way of using PostGIS by gridding the regions with small cells & running a query to sum the areas of the cells outside the coast & left/right/below/above certain locations but this is a very cumbersome approach, & is very non-graphical/interactive. I can't seem to do this with JUMP, in that I close a bay by moving one vertex, but can't get a clean topology with a new area (the bay) out of it. This is frustrating as the operation is trivial with my commercial GIS package, which I'm trying to replace with OS GIS software. Any advice/help appreciated. Brent Wood From cavallini at faunalia.it Fri Dec 10 08:17:17 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:17:17 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Which OS GIS package to edit/query shapefiles? In-Reply-To: <20041210011045.47150.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041210011045.47150.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200412100817.19703.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think you basically have two choices: 1. qgis (simpler; does not print properly yet) 2. grass (more powerful, less easy to start). Let us know your progresses. All the best. pc At 02:10, venerd? 10 dicembre 2004, Brent Wood has probably written: > I have a coastline as a shapefile. > > I want to draw lines across various bays.estuaries & harbours to determine > their areas. > > > Is there an OS GIS tool that will let me graphically interact with the > data, draw lines with the mouse, merge these lines with existing > lines/polygons and define the new polygons to derive the areas? > > I can see a way of using PostGIS by gridding the regions with small cells & > running a query to sum the areas of the cells outside the coast & > left/right/below/above certain locations but this is a very cumbersome > approach, & is very non-graphical/interactive. > > I can't seem to do this with JUMP, in that I close a bay by moving one > vertex, but can't get a clean topology with a new area (the bay) out of it. > > This is frustrating as the operation is trivial with my commercial GIS > package, which I'm trying to replace with OS GIS software. > > > Any advice/help appreciated. > > Brent Wood > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBuU19/NedwLUzIr4RAmcxAJ9HHSSE9mHw47nIfi2w9+HCAAxo1QCePfaB rywSPhFrZ3dyZ9qFDOR/ahE= =phyh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lists at webmapit.com.br Fri Dec 10 13:11:34 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:11:34 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] MapServer/FreeGIS and the market Message-ID: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> Hi folks, this is more a discussion and "opinion-collector" topic than a technical question. Despite the known high potencial of MapServer and other very useful free gis tools, it's still very hard to find MapServer/Free GIS job offers at gis jobs websites or other GIS related sites. Why do you think this happen this way? - do you think mapserver/freegis packs are not sufficient known to get a place at commercial media? - or could commercial proprietary software companies be doing something to avoid free gis from growing up? - or does companies know that this kind of professional is more difficult to find and then prefer not to loose time on high media announces and look for professionals only via people networking? best regards, Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto at hotmail.com phone:+55(16)9994-2928 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From cavallini at faunalia.it Fri Dec 10 12:30:46 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:30:46 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] MapServer/FreeGIS and the market In-Reply-To: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> References: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> Message-ID: <200412101230.50046.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Interesting question. I believe that, at least in Italy, the reason is purely commercial: you get the job if you go everywhere showing how good you product is. This means advertisment, but in our sector more important is the commercial agent that goes from office to office to promote a product. Can you imagine if companies would have to find ESRI over the Internet, instead of having somebody showing them all the marvels directly in the office? A secondary reason may be that people tent to trust more larger, apparently more solid, companies that a piece of software per se. All the best. pc At 13:11, venerd? 10 dicembre 2004, Eduardo Patto Kanegae has probably written: > Hi folks, > > this is more a discussion and "opinion-collector" topic than a technical > question. > > Despite the known high potencial of MapServer and other very useful free > gis tools, it's still very hard to find MapServer/Free GIS job offers at > gis jobs websites or other GIS related sites. > > Why do you think this happen this way? > - do you think mapserver/freegis packs are not sufficient known to get a > place at commercial media? > - or could commercial proprietary software companies be doing something to > avoid free gis from growing up? > - or does companies know that this kind of professional is more difficult > to find and then prefer not to loose time on high media announces and look > for professionals only via people networking? > > best regards, > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > ICQ: 303747254 > MSN: eduardo_patto at hotmail.com > phone:+55(16)9994-2928 - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBuYjm/NedwLUzIr4RArh+AKC0kloTkTmwxNaGPM8usZInnmrjIwCgokSa ZGOHV38tkS8WG3aDdRDmD5E= =4Pe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jan at intevation.de Fri Dec 10 12:49:43 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:49:43 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] MapServer/FreeGIS and the market In-Reply-To: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> References: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> Message-ID: <20041210114943.GB21784@intevation.de> On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 09:11:34AM -0300, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > Despite the known high potencial of MapServer and other very useful free gis > tools, it's still very hard to find MapServer/Free GIS job offers at gis > jobs websites or other GIS related sites. > > Why do you think this happen this way? > - do you think mapserver/freegis packs are not sufficient known to get a > place at commercial media? > - or could commercial proprietary software companies be doing something to > avoid free gis from growing up? > - or does companies know that this kind of professional is more difficult to > find and then prefer not to loose time on high media announces and look for > professionals only via people networking? the companies that are very much oriented towards a Free Software based business model usually employ people directly because they know the guys who rock and they know when they get available. Intevation has employed all of the team this way. But even we find it sometimes difficult to find cool guys who currently have no job or don't want to quit their current ;-) Those companies that basically do proprietary business model and just added UMN MapServer to their supported products tend to have their already-there staff to dive into UMN MapServer. Also, such companies are not able to decide who rocks and who does not. I've seen this very often in Germany. The big companies should actually contract the small companies to do the works on the Free Software. However, in GIS area there are not many examples that this happens. Free Software GIS solutions are usually ignored. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From taddei at lat-lon.de Fri Dec 10 17:36:57 2004 From: taddei at lat-lon.de (Ugo Taddei) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:36:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Freegis-list] Which OS GIS package to edit/query shapefiles? Message-ID: <3464.80.133.115.182.1102696617.squirrel@mail.lat-lon.de> Hello Brent, Brent Wood wrote: > >I have a coastline as a shapefile. > >I want to draw lines across various bays.estuaries & harbours to determine >their areas. > > >Is there an OS GIS tool that will let me graphically interact with the data, >draw lines with the mouse, merge these lines with existing lines/polygons and >define the new polygons to derive the areas? > >I can see a way of using PostGIS by gridding the regions with small cells & >running a query to sum the areas of the cells outside the coast & >left/right/below/above certain locations but this is a very cumbersome >approach, & is very non-graphical/interactive. > >I can't seem to do this with JUMP, in that I close a bay by moving one vertex, >but can't get a clean topology with a new area (the bay) out of it. That's right! By doing so you create an invalid geometry (a bow tie polygon!). My suggestions are: 1) You digitize (some of the) points along the bay margin, closing the bay; then you let JUMP compute the area (a bit cumbersome...but you get a lot of help from the snap feature); 2) You copy the poly into a new layer, closing the bay as you did (moving a vertex) and then deleting the other vertices (*not* the ones forming the margin) till you get a valid gemoetry (a bit of work...) or 3) Send your question directly to the JUMP users-list http://www.jump-project.org/ (see resources) Hope that helps, Ugo > >This is frustrating as the operation is trivial with my commercial GIS package, >which I'm trying to replace with OS GIS software. > > >Any advice/help appreciated. > >Brent Wood > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > -- l a t / l o n GmbH Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany phone ++49 +228 184960 fax ++49 +228 732153 http://www.lat-lon.de http://www.deegree.org From dooshiant at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 08:53:23 2004 From: dooshiant at yahoo.com (dooshiant) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:53:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS software for streetmapping Message-ID: <20041213075323.80705.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I'm looking for a way to scan and digitise some old street maps and publish them on the web using a mapserver. Would you be able to point me to applications which might help me out? Sorry if my query is a FAQ but I searched the archives and the only reference I found to streetmaps is a software called navsys and it requires a GPS. Thanks! Regards, dooshiant ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From cavallini at faunalia.it Mon Dec 13 09:19:21 2004 From: cavallini at faunalia.it (Paolo Cavallini) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:19:21 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS software for streetmapping In-Reply-To: <20041213075323.80705.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041213075323.80705.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200412130919.24397.cavallini@faunalia.it> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I would suggest grass57. The new qgis might be able to do it as well (non-topologically, though). All the best. pc At 08:53, luned? 13 dicembre 2004, dooshiant has probably written: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a way to scan and digitise some old street maps and > publish them on the web using a mapserver. Would you be able to point > me to applications which might help me out? > > Sorry if my query is a FAQ but I searched the archives and the only > reference I found to streetmaps is a software called navsys and it > requires a GPS. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > dooshiant > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list - -- Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it www.faunalia.com Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBvVCJ/NedwLUzIr4RAo+XAKCNIdkdepjm8eaae75g9tY1UM/tGwCfUtwK lfi3GeMXvYPIgk3paq4HC2c= =EIUh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lists at webmapit.com.br Mon Dec 13 19:41:36 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:36 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] how to read SRTM files Message-ID: <41BDE260.6080600@webmapit.com.br> Hi folks, I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't know this file format(.hgt) runnig "gdalinfo" one .hgt file I only got: ERROR 4: `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. GDALOpen failed - 4 `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. Or my GDAL tools is missing something? Is there any free software that can read this files? thanks -- Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto~at~hotmail.com +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From ben at vterrain.org Mon Dec 13 23:07:07 2004 From: ben at vterrain.org (Ben Discoe) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files In-Reply-To: <1FB6937A87F9074C9A2B8F9D9137EB16017B197F@COMAIL01.digitalglobe.com> Message-ID: <014801c4e160$1639c010$f400fe0a@TOPP2> Eduardo, Or, simply drag your .hgt files into some nice GDAL-based software such as VTP's VTBuilder, which will automatically recognize the .hgt and load it directly. -Ben http://vterrain.org/ > ------ > From: Ethan Alpert > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:55 PM > > Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. > [..] > You're going to need to do some processing before you can use > these files. > > -e > > ------ > From: Eduardo Patto Kanegae > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:42 AM > To: freegis-list at intevation.de; gdal-dev at remotesensing.org > Subject: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files > > Hi folks, > > I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from > ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw > that I don't know this file format(.hgt) From cantellano at mexico.com Mon Dec 13 23:34:48 2004 From: cantellano at mexico.com (Eliseo Cantellano) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:34:48 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files Message-ID: <20041213223448.CA1E723CE8@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Eduardo. You can use Global Mapper, also. Eliseo Cantellano National University of M?xico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Discoe" To: freegis-list at intevation.de, gdal-dev at remotesensing.org Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:07:07 -0500 > > Eduardo, > > Or, simply drag your .hgt files into some nice GDAL-based software such as > VTP's VTBuilder, which will automatically recognize the .hgt and load it > directly. > > -Ben > http://vterrain.org/ > > > ------ > > From: Ethan Alpert > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:55 PM > > > > Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. [..] > > You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these files. > > > > -e > > > > ------ > > From: Eduardo Patto Kanegae > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:42 AM > > To: freegis-list at intevation.de; gdal-dev at remotesensing.org > > Subject: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from > > ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I > > don't know this file format(.hgt) > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- _______________________________________________ http://mail.mexico.com ?Disponible Ya! Utiliza el Outlook y Outlook Express para bajar tus correos por solo US$24.95 al a?o Now available! Download your mail into your computer with Outlook and Outlook Express US$24.95/yr Powered by www.M3xico.com From ealpert at digitalglobe.com Mon Dec 13 21:54:34 2004 From: ealpert at digitalglobe.com (Ethan Alpert) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:54:34 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files Message-ID: <1FB6937A87F9074C9A2B8F9D9137EB16017B197F@COMAIL01.digitalglobe.com> Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. From starged at videotron.ca Tue Dec 14 04:31:43 2004 From: starged at videotron.ca (Mario Beauchamp) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files In-Reply-To: <41BDE260.6080600@webmapit.com.br> References: <41BDE260.6080600@webmapit.com.br> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:36 +0000, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: >I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from >ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't >know this file format(.hgt) You can also get SRTM data in Geotiff format from ftp://ftp.glcf.umiacs.umd.edu/glcf/SRTM/ And you have the choice between WRS2 and degree tiles. -- Mario B. Landsat images (demo): http://pages.infinit.net/starged/landsat/home.htm From neteler at itc.it Tue Dec 14 12:12:34 2004 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:12:34 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files In-Reply-To: <20041213223448.CA1E723CE8@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20041213223448.CA1E723CE8@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20041214111234.GM3909@thuille.itc.it> Eduardo, you can use GRASS 5.7-CVS also, I have recently integrated r.in.srtm. Markus On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 06:34:48AM +0800, Eliseo Cantellano wrote: > Eduardo. > You can use Global Mapper, also. > > Eliseo Cantellano > National University of M?xico > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Discoe" > To: freegis-list at intevation.de, gdal-dev at remotesensing.org > Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:07:07 -0500 > > > > > Eduardo, > > > > Or, simply drag your .hgt files into some nice GDAL-based software such as > > VTP's VTBuilder, which will automatically recognize the .hgt and load it > > directly. > > > > -Ben > > http://vterrain.org/ > > > > > ------ > > > From: Ethan Alpert > > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:55 PM > > > > > > Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. [..] > > > You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these files. > > > > > > -e > > > > > > ------ > > > From: Eduardo Patto Kanegae > > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:42 AM > > > To: freegis-list at intevation.de; gdal-dev at remotesensing.org > > > Subject: [Gdal-dev] how to read SRTM files > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from > > > ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I > > > don't know this file format(.hgt) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freegis-list mailing list > > Freegis-list at intevation.de > > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > -- > _______________________________________________ > http://mail.mexico.com > ?Disponible Ya! Utiliza el Outlook y Outlook Express para bajar tus correos por solo US$24.95 al a?o > > Now available! Download your mail into your computer with Outlook and Outlook Express US$24.95/yr > > Powered by www.M3xico.com > > -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From lists at webmapit.com.br Tue Dec 14 11:55:21 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:55:21 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: how to read SRTM files - conclusion! In-Reply-To: <41BDE260.6080600@webmapit.com.br> References: <41BDE260.6080600@webmapit.com.br> Message-ID: <41BEC699.2050301@webmapit.com.br> Hi folks, I'd like to thank everybody for replies contribution... This show us how powerfull Free Software philosophy can be. 'Cause it's only about software, it's about to share data and knowledge. Now, I'm going back to my SRTM task because I have more than one option/suggestion to do an only job. Thanks all. I pasted all replies below! Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto~at~hotmail.com +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** ############################################################### Markus Neteler escreveu: Eduardo, you can use GRASS 5.7-CVS also, I have recently integrated r.in.srtm. Markus Mario Beauchamp escreveu: Hi, On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:36 +0000, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: >I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from >ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't >know this file format(.hgt) > > You can also get SRTM data in Geotiff format from ftp://ftp.glcf.umiacs.umd.edu/glcf/SRTM/ And you have the choice between WRS2 and degree tiles. -- Mario B. Landsat images (demo): http://pages.infinit.net/starged/landsat/home.htm Eliseo Cantellano escreveu: Eduardo. You can use Global Mapper, also. Eliseo Cantellano National University of M?xico Ethan Alpert escreveu: Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. >From the Documentation directory: ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/Documentation/QuickStart.txt "Height files have the extension .HGT and are signed two byte integers. The bytes are in Motorola "big-endian" order with the most significant byte first, directly readable by systems such as Sun SPARC, Silicon Graphics and Macintosh. DEC Alpha and most PCs use Intel ("little-endian") order so some byte-swapping may be necessary. Heights are in meters referenced to the WGS84 geoid. Data voids are assigned the value -32768." You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these files. -e Ben Discoe escreveu: Eduardo, Or, simply drag your .hgt files into some nice GDAL-based software such as VTP's VTBuilder, which will automatically recognize the .hgt and load it directly. -Ben http://vterrain.org/ Thom DeCarlo escreveu: Eduardo, This question has come up quite a few times in several lists I'm on. (I asked once, myself.) First, if you are using a Linux computer or can install Cygwin (from www.cygwin.org) on your Windows computer you can use this bash script that I modified from Markus Neteler's website: http://mpa.itc.it/rs/srtm/ This shell program will change the name of the .hgt to .bil. It then generates the .hdr and .prj files for the ESRI file reader. Finally, it launches gdal_translate to build a geotiff from the bil file. HTH, Thom Thom DeCarlo --------------------------------------------------------- Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons For You are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup Vincent Schut escreveu: There has been some postings on this list before about this topic. A google search on 'gdal srtm' will probably give you these. Shortly, the hgt files are simple binary data, but can easily be 'translated' into a BIL file (which can be opened by GDAL) by generating the apporpriate (text file format) header file. You will find the exact answer on how to do this in the earlier postings on this list. Good luck! Vincent. On Monday 13 December 2004 21:54, Ethan Alpert wrote: >Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. > >>From the Documentation directory: > >ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/Documentation/QuickStart.txt > >"Height files have the extension .HGT and are signed two byte integers. >The >bytes are in Motorola "big-endian" order with the most significant byte >first, >directly readable by systems such as Sun SPARC, Silicon Graphics and >Macintosh. >DEC Alpha and most PCs use Intel ("little-endian") order so some >byte-swapping >may be necessary. Heights are in meters referenced to the WGS84 geoid. >Data >voids are assigned the value -32768." > >You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these >files. > >-e > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae escreveu: > Hi folks, > > I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from > ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't > know this file format(.hgt) > > runnig "gdalinfo" one .hgt file I only got: > > ERROR 4: `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. > > GDALOpen failed - 4 > `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. > > Or my GDAL tools is missing something? > > Is there any free software that can read this files? > > thanks > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: srtm3_generate_geotiff.sh Type: application/x-sh Size: 3221 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041214/49e7ceee/srtm3_generate_geotiff.sh From dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca Tue Dec 14 15:00:21 2004 From: dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca (Dave McIlhagga) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:00:21 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] MapServer/FreeGIS and the market In-Reply-To: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> References: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> Message-ID: <41BEF1F5.4060908@dmsolutions.ca> Hi Eduardo, In Canada we are beginning to see more and more job postings that do include experience with MapServer. I believe this is directly related to the efforts we have made at DM to promote and sell our company, the value that comes from the technology, and the open source software development approach. Importantly -- this is in large part due to the types of people we present this to - decision makers, not just technical people. Very different arguments and messages appeal to decision makers, and unfortunately, too often individuals or companies only promote technical and "free" benefits of open source software. When properly composed, from sound business fundamentals - we have witnessed that the message can be very powerful and as a consequence of this hard work, we have seen attitudes in Canada change dramatically in the past four years. The ultimate result of this has been that in the past couple of years we have begun to see job postings for people with skills in open source technologies -- and as this message continues to grow and spread -- I'm confident that this will multiply in the future. Dave -- Dave McIlhagga President, DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca EMail : dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca Phone : 613-565-5056 x15 Fax : 613-565-0925 Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > Hi folks, > > this is more a discussion and "opinion-collector" topic than a technical > question. > > Despite the known high potencial of MapServer and other very useful free gis > tools, it's still very hard to find MapServer/Free GIS job offers at gis > jobs websites or other GIS related sites. > > Why do you think this happen this way? > - do you think mapserver/freegis packs are not sufficient known to get a > place at commercial media? > - or could commercial proprietary software companies be doing something to > avoid free gis from growing up? > - or does companies know that this kind of professional is more difficult to > find and then prefer not to loose time on high media announces and look for > professionals only via people networking? > > best regards, > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > ICQ: 303747254 > MSN: eduardo_patto at hotmail.com > phone:+55(16)9994-2928 > > Treinamento em UMN MapServer - > http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver > F?rum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum > > ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From lists at webmapit.com.br Tue Dec 14 15:50:48 2004 From: lists at webmapit.com.br (Eduardo Patto Kanegae) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Can't find r.in.srtm in GRASS CVS Message-ID: <41BEFDC8.4010408@webmapit.com.br> Hi Markus , I download GRASS 5.7 CVS 2004-12-13 and built it using: CFLAGS="-g -Wall" ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/app/grass-cvs-13122004 --exec-prefix=/usr/local/app/grass-cvs-13122004 --enable-shared --with-cxx --with-mysql --with-mysql-libs=/usr/lib/mysql --with-mysql-includes=/usr/include/mysql --with-opengl --with-blas --with-lapack --with-nls --with-readline-includes=/usr/include --with-gdal --with-x --without-odbc --without-fftw --with-proj-libs=/usr/local/lib 2>&1 | tee configure.log but, after building process, at /grass-cvs-13122004/grass-5.7.cvs/bin , I found NO "r.in.srtm" Is there any special command on "configure" to enable this module? ps.: sorry the cross-posting. I'm still waiting my GRASS list confirmation prior to forwarding this to grass users. thanks in advance. Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto~at~hotmail.com +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** -------- Mensagem Original -------- Assunto: [Freegis-list] Re: how to read SRTM files - conclusion! Data: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:55:21 +0000 De: Eduardo Patto Kanegae <...> Para: freegis-list at intevation.de, gdal-dev at remotesensing.org Refer?ncias: <41BDE260.6080600 at webmapit.com.br> Hi folks, I'd like to thank everybody for replies contribution... This show us how powerfull Free Software philosophy can be. 'Cause it's only about software, it's about to share data and knowledge. Now, I'm going back to my SRTM task because I have more than one option/suggestion to do an only job. Thanks all. I pasted all replies below! Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto~at~hotmail.com +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** ############################################################### Markus Neteler escreveu: Eduardo, you can use GRASS 5.7-CVS also, I have recently integrated r.in.srtm. Markus Mario Beauchamp escreveu: Hi, On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:36 +0000, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: >I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from >ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't >know this file format(.hgt) > > You can also get SRTM data in Geotiff format from ftp://ftp.glcf.umiacs.umd.edu/glcf/SRTM/ And you have the choice between WRS2 and degree tiles. -- Mario B. Landsat images (demo): http://pages.infinit.net/starged/landsat/home.htm Eliseo Cantellano escreveu: Eduardo. You can use Global Mapper, also. Eliseo Cantellano National University of M?xico Ethan Alpert escreveu: Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. >From the Documentation directory: ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/Documentation/QuickStart.txt "Height files have the extension .HGT and are signed two byte integers. The bytes are in Motorola "big-endian" order with the most significant byte first, directly readable by systems such as Sun SPARC, Silicon Graphics and Macintosh. DEC Alpha and most PCs use Intel ("little-endian") order so some byte-swapping may be necessary. Heights are in meters referenced to the WGS84 geoid. Data voids are assigned the value -32768." You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these files. -e Ben Discoe escreveu: Eduardo, Or, simply drag your .hgt files into some nice GDAL-based software such as VTP's VTBuilder, which will automatically recognize the .hgt and load it directly. -Ben http://vterrain.org/ Thom DeCarlo escreveu: Eduardo, This question has come up quite a few times in several lists I'm on. (I asked once, myself.) First, if you are using a Linux computer or can install Cygwin (from www.cygwin.org) on your Windows computer you can use this bash script that I modified from Markus Neteler's website: http://mpa.itc.it/rs/srtm/ This shell program will change the name of the .hgt to .bil. It then generates the .hdr and .prj files for the ESRI file reader. Finally, it launches gdal_translate to build a geotiff from the bil file. HTH, Thom Thom DeCarlo --------------------------------------------------------- Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons For You are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup Vincent Schut escreveu: There has been some postings on this list before about this topic. A google search on 'gdal srtm' will probably give you these. Shortly, the hgt files are simple binary data, but can easily be 'translated' into a BIL file (which can be opened by GDAL) by generating the apporpriate (text file format) header file. You will find the exact answer on how to do this in the earlier postings on this list. Good luck! Vincent. On Monday 13 December 2004 21:54, Ethan Alpert wrote: >Looks like you're grabbing the "unfinished" data. > >>From the Documentation directory: > >ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/Documentation/QuickStart.txt > >"Height files have the extension .HGT and are signed two byte integers. >The >bytes are in Motorola "big-endian" order with the most significant byte >first, >directly readable by systems such as Sun SPARC, Silicon Graphics and >Macintosh. >DEC Alpha and most PCs use Intel ("little-endian") order so some >byte-swapping >may be necessary. Heights are in meters referenced to the WGS84 geoid. >Data >voids are assigned the value -32768." > >You're going to need to do some processing before you can use these >files. > >-e > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae escreveu: > Hi folks, > > I'm downloading SRTM NASA ziped files from > ftp://e0dps01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/South_America/ but I saw that I don't > know this file format(.hgt) > > runnig "gdalinfo" one .hgt file I only got: > > ERROR 4: `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. > > GDALOpen failed - 4 > `N01W050.hgt' not recognised as a supported file format. > > Or my GDAL tools is missing something? > > Is there any free software that can read this files? > > thanks > -- From pcreso at pcreso.com Wed Dec 15 04:20:58 2004 From: pcreso at pcreso.com (Brent Wood) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:20:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] Geographic/spatial data policies Message-ID: <20041215032059.44969.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all... While this list is primarily interested in Open Source Software, in some areas gov't funded data is the subject of a similar debate, regarding costs & distribution. Like my feelings on software, I believe the value of such data is in how widely it can be used, rather than how much money can be made from it, especially when the taxpayer funded the data collection in the first place. When it comes to OS GIS software, without good data, the software is of limited use. Anyway, a new book has been released which may be of interest. It discusses a range of issues & approaches: Licensing Geographic Data & Services by the National Research Council ISBN 0-309-09267-1 (book) ISBN 0-309-54457-2 (PDF) or read/skim online at http://books.nap.edu/catalog/11079.html Brent Wood From neteler at itc.it Wed Dec 15 07:44:55 2004 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:44:55 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Can't find r.in.srtm in GRASS CVS In-Reply-To: <41BEFDC8.4010408@webmapit.com.br> References: <41BEFDC8.4010408@webmapit.com.br> Message-ID: <20041215064455.GA12696@thuille.itc.it> On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 02:50:48PM +0000, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > > Hi Markus , > > I download GRASS 5.7 CVS 2004-12-13 and built it using: > > CFLAGS="-g -Wall" ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/app/grass-cvs-13122004 > --exec-prefix=/usr/local/app/grass-cvs-13122004 --enable-shared > --with-cxx --with-mysql --with-mysql-libs=/usr/lib/mysql > --with-mysql-includes=/usr/include/mysql --with-opengl --with-blas > --with-lapack --with-nls --with-readline-includes=/usr/include > --with-gdal --with-x --without-odbc --without-fftw > --with-proj-libs=/usr/local/lib 2>&1 | tee configure.log > > but, after building process, at /grass-cvs-13122004/grass-5.7.cvs/bin , > I found NO "r.in.srtm" > > Is there any special command on "configure" to enable this module? > > ps.: sorry the cross-posting. I'm still waiting my GRASS list > confirmation prior to forwarding this to grass users. Eduardo, to answer also here: r.in.srtm is a script and found in on your machine in /grass-cvs-13122004/grass-5.7.cvs/scripts But just launch GRASS and it will be in the path. Cheers Markus From jan at intevation.de Wed Dec 15 09:39:06 2004 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:39:06 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Source Geospatial '05 Conference Announcement Message-ID: <20041215083906.GA28599@intevation.de> Hi FreeGIS people, I received this announcement from Steve Lime, one of the guys with the longest Free GIS Software developement track record. I expect this event to be quite interesting for the community around Free Software and GIS. Best Jan | Open Source Geospatial '05, an international conference addressing | geospatial data technologies developed by or of relevance to the Open | Source community, will be held June 16-18, 2005 in Minneapolis, | Minnesota, USA. The conference will bring together the MapServer, | EOGEO, and OSGIS communities with the intent to be broadly inclusive. A | committee has been working since July to design a program with elements | that will interest participants from the novice to the expert. The | conference strives to build on the successes and enthusiasm generated | by previous, related meetings. This exciting event is being held on | June 16 - 18, 2005, at the University of Minnesota campus in | Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. | | Important dates to note (dates are approximate and subject to change): | | Call for presentations: January 1st, 2005 | | Online registration begins: January 1st, 2005 | | Abstracts for presentations due: April 1st, 2005 | | Early registration ends: April 15th, 2005 | | Make your plans to attend early, as hotel space on and around the | University campus is expected to fill up quickly for the week of the | conference. | | For more information as it becomes available, please visit the | conference website at http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/mum/mtg2005.html | | Take advantage of the opportunity Open Source Geospatial '05 offers to | network with fellow geospatial data professionals, renewing old | acquaintances and making new ones. Hope to see you there! -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From ral at alum.mit.edu Wed Dec 15 11:18:47 2004 From: ral at alum.mit.edu (Roger Longhorn) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:18:47 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fw: Open Source Geospatial '05 Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20041215101751.012a9810@pop.freeserve.com> > > Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:23:35 -0500 > > From: Allan Doyle > > Subject: [wms-dev] Open Source Geospatial '05 Conference Announcement > > To: workshop-discuss at eogeo.org, EOGEO News , > > EOGEO Projects , wms-dev at lists.eogeo.org > > Message-ID: > > > > ***************************** > > Subject: Open Source Geospatial '05 Conference Announcement > > > > Open Source Geospatial '05, an international conference addressing > > geospatial data technologies developed by or of relevance to the Open > > Source community, will be held June 16-18, 2005 in Minneapolis, > > Minnesota, USA. The conference will bring together the MapServer, > > EOGEO, and OSGIS communities with the intent to be broadly inclusive. A > > committee has been working since July to design a program with elements > > that will interest participants from the novice to the expert. The > > conference strives to build on the successes and enthusiasm generated > > by previous, related meetings. This exciting event is being held on > > June 16 - 18, 2005, at the University of Minnesota campus in > > Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. > > > > Important dates to note (dates are approximate and subject to change): > > Call for presentations: January 1st, 2005 > > Online registration begins: January 1st, 2005 > > Abstracts for presentations due: April 1st, 2005 > > Early registration ends: April 15th, 2005 > > > > Make your plans to attend early, as hotel space on and around the > > University campus is expected to fill up quickly for the week of the > > conference. > > > > For more information as it becomes available, please visit the > > conference website at http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/mum/mtg2005.html > > > > Take advantage of the opportunity Open Source Geospatial '05 offers to > > network with fellow geospatial data professionals, renewing old > > acquaintances and making new ones. Hope to see you there! > > **************************************** Roger A. Longhorn Director, Info-Dynamics Research Associates Ltd EC Projects Office 1A Potters Cross, Wootton Bedfordshire MK43 9JG, U.K. Computer voicemail & Fax +44 (0)870 134 6492 E-mail: ral at alum.mit.edu Mobile +44 (0)7879 875288 From slc at publicus.net Wed Dec 15 14:56:01 2004 From: slc at publicus.net (Steven Clift) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:56:01 -0600 Subject: [Freegis-list] Participatory GIS, Reuse of Government Data - Request for Examples Message-ID: <001e01c4e2ad$d026f490$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2> As part of a e-democracy best practice exploration I am looking for government projects that use GIS (via the web particularly) to enhance public participation and input. I am also interested in learning about pro-active government policies to share access to raw GIS data with third parties in local communities interested in developing their own analysis or analysis that goes beyond that justified as a public expense. See the submission forms: http://dowire.org/submit This global e-democracy best practices effort is funded by the UK Local E-democracy National Project. Thanks, Steven Clift P.S. Please forward this to other GIS e-lists and blogs. Steven Clift - http://publicus.net - Reply to: clift at publicus.net Join DoWire: http://dowire.org E-Democracy: http://e-democracy.org From bernhard at intevation.de Wed Dec 15 19:49:35 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:49:35 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] MapServer/FreeGIS and the market In-Reply-To: <41BEF1F5.4060908@dmsolutions.ca> References: <007001c4deb1$70ab7900$cf19eac8@diamante> <41BEF1F5.4060908@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <20041215184935.GH26154@intevation.de> Hi Dave, On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 09:00:21AM -0500, Dave McIlhagga wrote: > In Canada we are beginning to see more and more job postings that do > include experience with MapServer. thanks for sharing the perspective. It is quite good to see that Free Software business is taking up speed in Canada. In Germany Intevation also sees Free Software business growing continuously. It is very important that there are companies that sell the benefits of the freedom to compete to customers and decision makers. > the value that comes from the technology, > and the open source software development approach. While Free Software tend to have an open development approach, there is not particular development method bound to it. Especially there is Free Software software that is developed closed. In some settings that even makes some sense, but usually it does not. > Very different arguments and messages appeal to decision makers, > and unfortunately, too often individuals or companies only promote > technical and "free" benefits of open source software. We found that promoting the freedom of competition to be very helpful, and my experience is that customers have a good understanding that the accompaning services are not without costs for them. Best, Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041215/2f1bd249/attachment.bin From aantoniou1 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 16 12:29:51 2004 From: aantoniou1 at yahoo.co.uk (Andreas Antoniou) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:29:51 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Azimuth and Distance In-Reply-To: <20041216110002.DD1B8102BED@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: <20041216112300.2D4E936CD8@mail.intevation.de> Dear All, We have some points (measured with a GPS) which represent the nest of some species. We have randomly selected a point, measuring azimuth and distance, for each one of the known points. How can we import these points automatically, or is there a procedure for limiting down the work instead of importing it manually? Any other ideas? Andreas Antoniou BSc(Hons) Forest Management From prime_parthi at yahoo.co.in Mon Dec 20 07:38:14 2004 From: prime_parthi at yahoo.co.in (parthi sarathi) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:38:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Freegis-list Digest, Vol 17, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <20041217110003.BB563102C13@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: <20041220063814.28260.qmail@web8503.mail.in.yahoo.com> freegis-list-request at intevation.de wrote:Send Freegis-list mailing list submissions to freegis-list at intevation.de To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freegis-list-request at intevation.de You can reach the person managing the list at freegis-list-owner at intevation.de When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Freegis-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Azimuth and Distance (Andreas Antoniou) > ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 Subject: [Freegis-list] Azimuth and Distance Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:29:51 +0200 To: From: "Andreas Antoniou" Dear All, We have some points (measured with a GPS) which represent the nest of some species. We have randomly selected a point, measuring azimuth and distance, for each one of the known points. How can we import these points automatically, or is there a procedure for limiting down the work instead of importing it manually? Any other ideas? Andreas Antoniou BSc(Hons) Forest Management _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041220/b5d903bb/attachment.html From gould at lsi.uji.es Wed Dec 15 08:45:57 2004 From: gould at lsi.uji.es (Michael Gould) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:45:57 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Geographic/spatial data policies In-Reply-To: <20041215032059.44969.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041215032059.44969.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41BFEBB5.9040704@lsi.uji.es> Brent, Let's start by freeing up that PDF! :-) Seriously, free data is next on the to-do list. There are precedents that we need to exploit: http://ocw.mit.edu and similar sites... There's also talk that the pharmaceutical industry is showing signs of open source (data) collaboration: free up research results and everyone (whole industry) wins. I think that Nash's (from movie A Beautiful Mind) equilibrium principle (google it) applies in a limited sense also...but we need real economists to help here. Another good source of people studying open source everything, is http://opensource.mit.edu In the end the argument is economic, with a small e, that is, freeing up data to improve economic development. Read the first 7 words in Clinton's 1994 executive order (creating NSDI)... no surprise. cheers Mike Gould Brent Wood wrote: >Hi all... > >While this list is primarily interested in Open Source Software, in some areas >gov't funded data is the subject of a similar debate, regarding costs & >distribution. Like my feelings on software, I believe the value of such data is >in how widely it can be used, rather than how much money can be made from it, >especially when the taxpayer funded the data collection in the first place. > >When it comes to OS GIS software, without good data, the software is of limited >use. > >Anyway, a new book has been released which may be of interest. It discusses a >range of issues & approaches: > >Licensing Geographic Data & Services >by the National Research Council > >ISBN 0-309-09267-1 (book) >ISBN 0-309-54457-2 (PDF) > >or read/skim online at http://books.nap.edu/catalog/11079.html > > >Brent Wood > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > > -- Michael Gould Department of Information Systems (Depto Lenguajes y Sistemas Informaticos) and TeIDE consortium Universitat Jaume I, E-12071 Castellon (Spain) e-mail: gould(AT)lsi.uji.es http://www.mgould.com ** http://www.geoinfo.uji.es From japare_1 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 29 07:41:29 2004 From: japare_1 at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?SmFjcXVlcyBQYXLp?=) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Geographic/spatial data policies In-Reply-To: <41BFEBB5.9040704@lsi.uji.es> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20041229/9076a005/attachment.html From arnulf.christl at ccgis.de Thu Dec 30 15:40:40 2004 From: arnulf.christl at ccgis.de (Arnulf Christl) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:40:40 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Source Geospatial '05 Message-ID: <41D41368.60001@ccgis.de> Hey, for those of you who missed it or might still wonder whether it will be of any value to visit the Open Source Geospatial '05. The '04 event "Open Source GIS Conference/MapServer User Meeting" is titled "One of the hottest conferences" of '04 with prominent coverage in the latest GIS Monitor: http://www.gismonitor.com/news/newsletter/archive/122304.php I suspect that this years event will draw even more attention (& no hallowed walls as yet :-). So please keep spreading the word as you are by far the most immportant information outlet. Best regards, Arnulf. -- ------------------------ Arnulf B. Christl ------------------------ http://www.ccgis.org http://www.mapbender.org ------------------------ From jidanni at jidanni.org Tue Dec 28 23:44:40 2004 From: jidanni at jidanni.org (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:44:40 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Geographic/spatial data policies References: <20041215032059.44969.qmail@web12201.mail.yahoo.com> <41BFEBB5.9040704@lsi.uji.es> Message-ID: <87fz1qqbzb.fsf@jidanni.org> Full of enthusiasm to read the book free online, I selected page http://www.nap.edu/openbook/0309092671/html/1.html only to find jpg's and OCR output... From shiuhlin at yahoo.com Fri Dec 24 19:53:12 2004 From: shiuhlin at yahoo.com (Shiuh-Lin Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] Free Java, Web & Wireless GIS Tools Message-ID: <20041224185312.73466.qmail@web52707.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, Since 1997, I have implemented sets of Java, Web & Wireless GIS tools. Most of them are free to use. If you are interested, please visit http://www.jshape.com for more information. Shiuh-Lin Lee __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com