From Heiko.Kehlenbrink at vermes.fh-oldenburg.de Mon Aug 2 10:04:03 2004 From: Heiko.Kehlenbrink at vermes.fh-oldenburg.de (Heiko Kehlenbrink) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:04:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool Message-ID: <36573.195.243.253.146.1091433843.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> hi all, i`m in a need for a tool to connect a garmin gps v and update the system-time of a pc. any hints welcome best regards heiko From nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de Mon Aug 2 11:53:40 2004 From: nils.faerber at kernelconcepts.de (Nils Faerber) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:53:40 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool In-Reply-To: <36573.195.243.253.146.1091433843.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> References: <36573.195.243.253.146.1091433843.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> Message-ID: <1091440420.2482.35.camel@localhost> Am Mo, den 02.08.2004 schrieb Heiko Kehlenbrink um 10:04: > hi all, Hi! > i`m in a need for a tool to connect a garmin gps v and update the > system-time of a pc. > any hints welcome It would help us to answer your request if you would tell us what operating system your are using. > best regards > heiko CU nils faerber -- kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- From Heiko.Kehlenbrink at vermes.fh-oldenburg.de Mon Aug 2 15:30:30 2004 From: Heiko.Kehlenbrink at vermes.fh-oldenburg.de (Heiko Kehlenbrink) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 15:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool In-Reply-To: <1091440420.2482.35.camel@localhost> References: <36573.195.243.253.146.1091433843.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> <1091440420.2482.35.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <43164.195.243.253.146.1091453430.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> Hi Nils, a win32 application would be suitable. best regards heiko > Am Mo, den 02.08.2004 schrieb Heiko Kehlenbrink um 10:04: >> hi all, > Hi! > >> i`m in a need for a tool to connect a garmin gps v and update the >> system-time of a pc. >> any hints welcome > > It would help us to answer your request if you would tell us what > operating system your are using. > >> best regards >> heiko > CU > nils faerber > > -- > kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 > Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 > D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 > -- > > > From gis at mailer.bsu.edu.ph Thu Aug 5 08:33:59 2004 From: gis at mailer.bsu.edu.ph (gis@mailer.bsu.edu.ph) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:33:59 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Freegis-list] suitability analysis In-Reply-To: <4109098E.4000403@dmsolutions.ca> References: <200407291419.i6TEJ8xk016110@xanadu.lychnobite.org> <4109098E.4000403@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <3173.202.90.128.27.1091687639.squirrel@mailer.bsu.edu.ph> hi to all, HELP...im looking for a software that is appropriate for suitability analysis particularly on agriculture researches.... thanks, peachy From satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com Sat Aug 7 09:48:27 2004 From: satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com (Satyajit) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:18:27 +0530 Subject: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool In-Reply-To: <43164.195.243.253.146.1091453430.squirrel@webmail.fh-oldenburg.de> Message-ID: <000001c47c52$ffb12b20$593ba8c0@satyajit> Hi Folks, Would like to develop a windows application where I can show GIS maps. I have seen how MapObjects work. But the license is really expensive. Is there any open source Active X map control available? Or anything other than Active X?? Thanks in anticipation. ~sat -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Heiko Kehlenbrink Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:01 PM To: Nils Faerber Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool Hi Nils, a win32 application would be suitable. best regards heiko > Am Mo, den 02.08.2004 schrieb Heiko Kehlenbrink um 10:04: >> hi all, > Hi! > >> i`m in a need for a tool to connect a garmin gps v and update the >> system-time of a pc. >> any hints welcome > > It would help us to answer your request if you would tell us what > operating system your are using. > >> best regards >> heiko > CU > nils faerber > > -- > kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 > Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 > D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 > -- > > > _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in anticipation. ~sat -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Heiko Kehlenbrink Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:01 PM To: Nils Faerber Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] gps time synchronize tool Hi Nils, a win32 application would be suitable. best regards heiko > Am Mo, den 02.08.2004 schrieb Heiko Kehlenbrink um 10:04: >> hi all, > Hi! > >> i`m in a need for a tool to connect a garmin gps v and update the >> system-time of a pc. >> any hints welcome > > It would help us to answer your request if you would tell us what > operating system your are using. > >> best regards >> heiko > CU > nils faerber > > -- > kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 > Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 > D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 > -- > > > _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am not aware of any Active X based Free Software tool but there are several Free Software Desktop GIS which are available for Windows. Among them are thuban, jump and openev. Each of them could be a good starting point for your work depending on what you want to do exactly. Greetings, Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think the best is to wait for this driver before grass support is included in the official debian package. > As I have very little compiling experience, can > someone pointing me to simple instruction on how to compile it on a Debian > Sarge box? Since I am the gdal debian maintainer and have been asked to add grass support to gdal (Hi Paolo ;-)), I investigated the situation within the last days and I found unofficial debian packages for qgis, gdal and grass5.7 on [2]. There has been a discussion on how to install them on [3]. They have been build for unstable but if you download the sources it should be rather easy to recompile them on sarge. Here an example for gdal: # unpack sources: dpkg-source -x gdal_1.2.0-2.dsc cd gdal-1.2.0 # evtl. edit debian/rules (this is just a makefile to build the # package) or debian/control (among other things this file describes # the dependencies and builddeps to other packages) # rebuild package fakeroot debian/rules binary # install package cd .. dpkg -i libgdal1_1.2.0-3.deb Good luck, Silke [1] http://xserve.flids.com/pipermail/gdal-dev/2004-August/006792.html [2] http://bullhorn.org/debian/ [3] http://mrcc.com/logs/qgis.log.2004-07-16 > Many thanks. > pc > - -- > Paolo Cavallini > cavallini at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953 > GPG key @: www.faunalia.it/Public_key_Paolo.asc > Only free software: www.gnu.org / www.linux.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBCmxs/NedwLUzIr4RAriEAKCSNw08DcY/ViPuXisemCQXyrmrZwCcDmVl > AgvB3DebWGg/uYacTMmsk+8= > =0f1l > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there any open source Active X map control available? >Or anything other than Active X?? > Thanks in anticipation. > ~sat > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Freegis-list mailing list >Freegis-list at intevation.de >https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > Hi, what we do is to combine WebGIS technology with local applications. That way you have the power of a server system and can deploy local applications nonetheless. Precondition is that you either set up your own server or find a server that already hosts the data you need. There is VB Active-X source code which handles the connection between the local app and the WebGIS map. Its not an off-the-shelf tool but we have used it for several productive systems which just run fine. What you do is to show the maps in a HTML browser but control them from the local app. You can find the sources on http://www.mapbender.org, just follow the download links. If you implement the local application yourself its easier still, just include an HTML control and link to the WMS that contains your geodata. Cheers, Arnulf. -- ---------------------------- CCGIS Christl & Stamm GbR ---------------------------- http://www.ccgis.de http://www.mapbender.org ---------------------------- Service: +49 (0)228 90826 0 Direct: +49 (0)228 90826 23 Fax: +49 (0)228 90826 11 ---------------------------- CCGIS Christl & Stamm GbR Siemensstra?e 8 53121 Bonn GERMANY From satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com Mon Aug 9 07:53:53 2004 From: satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com (Satyajit) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:23:53 +0530 Subject: [Freegis-list] Activex to include maps in Windows Application In-Reply-To: <20040807151826.GA1362@intevation.de> Message-ID: <000001c47dd5$4f7796c0$593ba8c0@satyajit> Hi Silke and Arnulf, Thanks for the suggestions. I could have used one of those free desktop GIS software but they don't allow to customize your application much. As in the case of MapObjects...you build you application as you like ...just include the Map control and Legend control in your application to display the maps. Anyways ...let me try out the softwares suggested by Silke. And see how they allow me to do my customization. Thanks a lot again. Regards ~sat -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Silke Reimer Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:48 PM To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Activex to include maps in Windows Application Hi Satyajit, On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:23:55PM +0530, Satyajit wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Would like to develop a windows application where I > can show GIS maps. I have seen how MapObjects work. But the license is > really expensive. Is there any open source Active X map control available? > Or anything other than Active X?? I am not aware of any Active X based Free Software tool but there are several Free Software Desktop GIS which are available for Windows. Among them are thuban, jump and openev. Each of them could be a good starting point for your work depending on what you want to do exactly. Greetings, Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Silke.Reimer at intevation.de Mon Aug 9 12:09:59 2004 From: Silke.Reimer at intevation.de (Silke Reimer) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:09:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Activex to include maps in Windows Application In-Reply-To: <000001c47dd5$4f7796c0$593ba8c0@satyajit> References: <20040807151826.GA1362@intevation.de> <000001c47dd5$4f7796c0$593ba8c0@satyajit> Message-ID: <20040809100959.GM3170@intevation.de> Hi Sat, On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:23:53AM +0530, Satyajit wrote: > > Hi Silke and Arnulf, > Thanks for the suggestions. I could have used one of those free > desktop GIS software but they don't allow to customize your application > much. As in the case of MapObjects...you build you application as you like > ...just include the Map control and Legend control in your application to > display the maps. Anyways ...let me try out the softwares suggested by > Silke. And see how they allow me to do my customization. I don't know in detail how qgis and jump handle customization. But I know that thuban has been designed to easily build custom application. The possibilites range from more or less simple add-ons (Have a look to the Extensions-directory to see some examples) to very complex applications (see GREAT-ER as an example). For a start see the chapter "Extensions" in the user manual [2]. If you have questions you can ask on the thuban-devel-list [3]. Many greetings and good luck, Silke [1] http://great-er.intevation.org/ [2] http://thuban.intevation.org/documentation.html [3] http://thuban.intevation.org/mailinglist.html > Thanks a lot again. > Regards > ~sat > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de > [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Silke Reimer > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:48 PM > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Activex to include maps in Windows Application > > Hi Satyajit, > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:23:55PM +0530, Satyajit wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > Would like to develop a windows application where I > > can show GIS maps. I have seen how MapObjects work. But the license is > > really expensive. Is there any open source Active X map control available? > > Or anything other than Active X?? > > I am not aware of any Active X based Free Software tool but there > are several Free Software Desktop GIS which are available for > Windows. Among them are thuban, jump and openev. Each of them could > be a good starting point for your work depending on what you want to > do exactly. > > Greetings, > > Silke > > -- > Silke Reimer > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please considier using our ftp mirror for downloads, especially during the following week: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/freegis/intevation/ http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/freegis/intevation/ rsync://ftp.gwdg.de/FreeGIS/intevation/ Affected are www, ftp, rsync, cvs, mailing lists and bug trackers on: intevation.de/net/org (except demo.intevation.de) freegis.org grass-verein.de mapit.de kolab.org/com/net (except demo.kolab.org) kroupware.org/com/net Since skencil.org is only a redirect to http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/, you can use that URL in case of problems. Thomas Arendsen Hein Intevation GmbH -- Email: thomas at intevation.de http://intevation.de/~thomas/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I would love to get a database with state, county, and city table with gecodes to their geographic center. I understand that ZIP codes are not nesc. polygons but a query could return the lat-lon for the geographic center of the postal delivery points within the code, right? Does this make sense? Does anybody have or have heard of something like this? Any help would be great. Cheers, Adam From m.wegmann at web.de Fri Aug 20 13:13:27 2004 From: m.wegmann at web.de (Martin Wegmann) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:13:27 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GRASSNews volume August 2004 Message-ID: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> Dear GRASS user, the first volume of the GRASS Newsletter has been released and can be downloaded at http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/GRASSNews_vol1.pdf . If you like to write an article for the next volume please visit http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/ and follow the instructions. hope you enjoy the Newsletter, regards Martin From satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com Mon Aug 23 11:26:54 2004 From: satyajit.gantayat at aurovision.com (Satyajit) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:56:54 +0530 Subject: [Freegis-list] Encrpting Shapefiles In-Reply-To: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> Message-ID: <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> Hi Folks, I have got a problem in my hand. I have developed a GIS viewer using MapObjects with almost all the functionalities of ArcView 3.2. Now, I want to encrypt the shapefiles so that the set of data can be seen only through my application. Since I have different privileges for different types of users in my application, I certainly don't want the users to modify the data through any other GIS application. Can I encrypt the data in a way so that it is not available through any other application. Any kind of help is welcome. Thanks a lot. Regards ~Sat -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-bounces at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Martin Wegmann Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:43 PM To: GRASS (devel); GRASSLIST(engl); FreeGIS - ML Cc: Gary Sherman; Fern?ndez-Victorio Ar?valo, Gonzalo; Fabien Fivaz; dylan; Andrew Davidson Subject: [Freegis-list] GRASSNews volume August 2004 Dear GRASS user, the first volume of the GRASS Newsletter has been released and can be downloaded at http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/GRASSNews_vol1.pdf . If you like to write an article for the next volume please visit http://grass.itc.it/newsletter/ and follow the instructions. hope you enjoy the Newsletter, regards Martin _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Aug 23 14:50:46 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:50:46 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Encrpting Shapefiles In-Reply-To: <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> References: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> Message-ID: <20040823125046.GB25800@intevation.de> On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 02:56:54PM +0530, Satyajit wrote: > I have got a problem in my hand. I have developed a GIS viewer using > MapObjects with almost all the functionalities of ArcView 3.2. Is this Free Software or going to become free soon? Note that this mailinglist is only about Software where you have the freedom to use, study and adapt, copy and publish enhancements are guaranteed. MapObjects and ArcView are non-free. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040823/cfd34199/attachment.bin From jidanni at jidanni.org Fri Aug 27 00:34:04 2004 From: jidanni at jidanni.org (Dan Jacobson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:34:04 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Encrpting Shapefiles References: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> Message-ID: <87zn4hy1er.fsf@jidanni.org> Satyajit> I want to encrypt the shapefiles so that the set of data can be seen only through Satyajit> my application. Sounds like a direction opposite from the goals of this list. From bernhard at intevation.de Fri Aug 27 16:54:25 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:54:25 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Encrpting Shapefiles In-Reply-To: <87zn4hy1er.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> <87zn4hy1er.fsf@jidanni.org> Message-ID: <20040827145425.GE10061@intevation.de> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 06:34:04AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Satyajit> I want to encrypt the shapefiles so that the set of data can be seen only through > Satyajit> my application. > > Sounds like a direction opposite from the goals of this list. Why? :) I mean if you have private geodata (like the locations of your relatives) I would perferably encrypt it and of course I would use Free Software to do it. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) Experts for complex webmapping! 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20040827/5afdf1b5/attachment.bin From warmerdam at pobox.com Fri Aug 27 18:05:38 2004 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:05:38 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Encrpting Shapefiles In-Reply-To: <20040827145425.GE10061@intevation.de> References: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> <87zn4hy1er.fsf@jidanni.org> <20040827145425.GE10061@intevation.de> Message-ID: <412F5BD2.6060806@pobox.com> Bernhard Reiter wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 06:34:04AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > >>Satyajit> I want to encrypt the shapefiles so that the set of data can be seen only through >>Satyajit> my application. >> >>Sounds like a direction opposite from the goals of this list. > > > Why? :) > I mean if you have private geodata (like the locations > of your relatives) I would perferably encrypt it > and of course I would use Free Software to do it. Bernhard, Encryption for privacy purposes is not anti-freedom, but it sounds like the fellow was talking about locking data so it was only accessable through his application. Presumably this is, in essence, an attempt to limit the users access to data with further policy enforced by the application. This is a model I have seen from a number of companies (and governments!) and is I think usually quite opposite from the desire for various freedoms with software and data. I was reading the following essay by a fellow from Sun today (linked also from Slashdot): http://www.sys-con.com/java/46131.cfm One of the things I thought was interesting in this was the concept that there were freedoms important to users as opposed to developers: Simon Phipps says: What freedoms do deployers need? They're actually rather traditional: * Function that meets actual business needs * Freedom to change supplier, so that prices can always be negotiated * Freedom to choose new software solutions as business needs evolve * Control of the data, by implication control of the format it's stored in * Protection from liabilities associated with the development of the software I find the first "freedom" quite dubious. The freedom to magically have whatever I want or need just appear for me? But I thought that the following freedoms are meaningful from a user/deployer point of view and describe kind sof openness organizations need to keep in when selecting solutions. The earlier question about encrypting data would appear to be an effort to interfere with the "control of the data" freedom. But I think the freedom to change supplier is a fundamental one to the free software movement. To not be locked into any vendor due to IP or other constraints. The freedom to choos new software solutions basically comes down to ensuring that various kinds of lock-in are avoided ... standards can play an important role in this. Anyways, I guess my overall point is that beyond the core freedoms esposed by the free software movement there are a variety of other things that users (and concerned software developers) should be considering to ensure that users of all kinds can maneuver as they need to. Enough rambling for today. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From bernhard at intevation.de Fri Aug 27 18:39:39 2004 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:39:39 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Encrpting Shapefiles In-Reply-To: <412F5BD2.6060806@pobox.com> References: <200408201313.27303.m.wegmann@web.de> <000001c488f3$61399290$593ba8c0@satyajit> <87zn4hy1er.fsf@jidanni.org> <20040827145425.GE10061@intevation.de> <412F5BD2.6060806@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20040827163939.GD12407@intevation.de> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:05:38PM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Bernhard Reiter wrote: > >On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 06:34:04AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > > >>Satyajit> I want to encrypt the shapefiles so that the set of data can be > >>seen only through > >>Satyajit> my application. > >> > >>Sounds like a direction opposite from the goals of this list. > > > > > >Why? :) > >I mean if you have private geodata (like the locations > >of your relatives) I would perferably encrypt it > >and of course I would use Free Software to do it. > Encryption for privacy purposes is not anti-freedom, but it sounds like > the fellow was talking about locking data so it was only accessable through > his application. Presumably this is, in essence, an attempt to limit the > users access to data with further policy enforced by the application. > This is a model I have seen from a number of companies (and governments!) > and is I think usually quite opposite from the desire for various freedoms > with software and data. Frank, you are completely on target. My post was motiviated by adding to the debate that encryption for privacy issues is useful and can be done with Free Software. > Anyways, I guess my overall point is that beyond the core freedoms esposed > by the free software movement there are a variety of other things that > users (and concerned software developers) should be considering to ensure > that users of all kinds can maneuver as they need to. Nicely put! This is why just looking at the license of a software or data is not enough. Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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