From jan at intevation.de Sun Jun 1 07:36:06 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 07:36:06 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] unknown dataformat In-Reply-To: <20030531205015.GA18511@seattle.gii.net> References: <20030530064914.GA23291@intevation.de> <20030531205015.GA18511@seattle.gii.net> Message-ID: <20030601053606.GA19465@intevation.de> Hi, I got a private message, that the suffix in the files in question was hinting at an internal format developed at some authority. A good example, that proprietary formats will eventually lead to trouble ... :-) On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:50:15PM -0700, gis4l at yahoo.com wrote: > SDF System Data File Format - legacy Unisys (Sperry) format ? -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From sigal at ocean.org.il Sun Jun 1 11:00:14 2003 From: sigal at ocean.org.il (Sigal Calderon) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 11:00:14 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Please unsubscribe me!!! Thanks Message-ID: Best Regards, Sigal Calderon IOLR From chandoo74 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 1 12:11:34 2003 From: chandoo74 at yahoo.com (Lanka Surya) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 03:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] Merging ESRI Personal Geodatabases Message-ID: <20030601101134.23163.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Is possible to merge ESRI Personal Geodatabases with relationship classes and tables using ArcGIS8.2. I have two geodatabases which have 3 relationship classes and 3 tables individually. Now I want to join these two databases with relationship classes and tables. I tried to merge with Geoprocessing wizard in ArcMap. But I am not getting relationship classes and tables in output data. Please suggest me a solution. Thanks&Regards Surya __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From bernhard at intevation.de Sun Jun 1 15:03:27 2003 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:03:27 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Merging ESRI Personal Geodatabases In-Reply-To: <20030601101134.23163.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030601101134.23163.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030601130327.GA22129@intevation.de> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:11:34AM -0700, Lanka Surya wrote: > Is possible to merge ESRI Personal Geodatabases with > relationship classes and tables using ArcGIS8.2. Please note that this mailing list is about Free Software and geographic information processing. This software must come with the freedom to use it, study, adapt it and publish changes for everbody. ArcGIS is proprietory software, this list is not the right place to ask for support it. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030601/f3fbf88a/attachment.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Sun Jun 1 15:06:06 2003 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:06:06 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Please unsubscribe me!!! Thanks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030601130606.GB22129@intevation.de> The list-server software of this list is self-serving. Anybody can change their personal options and unsubscribe themselfs. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030601/49c230cd/attachment.bin From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 2 12:39:51 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:39:51 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] unknown dataformat In-Reply-To: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E8E@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> References: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E8E@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> Message-ID: <20030602103951.GB19734@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:26:35PM +0200, Steffens, Ludger wrote: > this format was not an "internal format developed at > some authority" but has been developed by the "Bundesforschungsanstalt f?r Landeskunde und Raumordung" at a time when other major GIS has not been devoloped ... > > Greetings > Ludger Steffens thanks for the info on the authority! The term 'internal' referred to the fact that the format was not published - as far as I am informed. Best -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Ludger.Steffens at t-mobile.de Mon Jun 2 13:34:11 2003 From: Ludger.Steffens at t-mobile.de (Steffens, Ludger) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:34:11 +0200 Subject: AW: [Freegis-list] unknown dataformat Message-ID: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E8F@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> it has been published ... at least in the late 1970/early 1980 when W.D. Rase, one the people devoloped this system published about their format in Kartographischen Nachrichten ... Ludger Steffens -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jan-Oliver Wagner [mailto:jan at intevation.de] Gesendet am: Montag, 2. Juni 2003 12:40 An: FreeGIS Mailing List Betreff: Re: [Freegis-list] unknown dataformat On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:26:35PM +0200, Steffens, Ludger wrote: > this format was not an "internal format developed at > some authority" but has been developed by the "Bundesforschungsanstalt f?r Landeskunde und Raumordung" at a time when other major GIS has not been devoloped ... > > Greetings > Ludger Steffens thanks for the info on the authority! The term 'internal' referred to the fact that the format was not published - as far as I am informed. Best -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From aft1972 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 17:44:01 2003 From: aft1972 at yahoo.com (Ashraf Tammam) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] generate flt format from terrain and its texture Message-ID: <20030604154401.82154.qmail@web41807.mail.yahoo.com> hi is there any one know a free or cheap program to convert the arc/info grid and its texture to the open flight format (flt)to use it with open GL performer? regards __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From neteler at itc.it Fri Jun 6 17:01:04 2003 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:01:04 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] VMAP0/Eurnasia -> SHAPE problems (OGR/OGDI driver) In-Reply-To: <3EDFF663.6010307@uow.edu.au>; from jgreid@uow.edu.au on Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:03:15PM +1000 References: <20030516174518.M31052@itc.it> <20030520175606.J18822@itc.it> <3EDFF663.6010307@uow.edu.au> Message-ID: <20030606170104.G18365@itc.it> John, (cc FreeGIS) On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:03:15PM +1000, John Reid wrote: > Markus, > > Out of curiosity, did the VMAP0 datasources for the 72 maps that failed > to report any features use the tiled VPF data structure? And the maps > that did work had their features untiled? Sorry for my atrocious > terminology - been a while since I looked at this. Good question - how to find out? I only downloaded the file from NIMA and tried to use it. Well, after some tricks it works now, enjoy the new mapserver: http://mpa.itc.it/markus/mapserver/ (the site may be a bit overloaded) > The other problem I experienced with VPF data was that some VPF > datasets do not conform to the published specification. I know I had to > rename a few directories to get the Global 1M dataset for Australia > working. If you need more details, please contact me and I will find my > notes on the problem. Yes, you have to rename all files with trailing period (delete this period). Only then the OGR/OGDI driver works... Then I have the impression that the OGR/OGDI driver does not work over NFS. Cheers Markus > Markus Neteler wrote: > > >Dear list members, > > > >[I already posted on GDAL-dev, sorry for crossposting - now I try here] > > > >did anyone (successfully) manage to convert VMAP0/Eurnasia > >to SHAPE format (or some other widely used GIS format supported > >by OGR)? > > > >I have compiled the OGDI-3.1.1 driver on Redhat Linux (a few > >Makefile changes were required), then compiled OGR with > >OGDI support (CVS version of GDAL/OGR). > > > >The 'ogrinfo' works well, but only reports features for 4 maps > >of 76 maps: > > > >For > >- 72 maps is reported that they contain 0 features > >- 4 maps contain this number of features: > > Feature Count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line > > Feature Count: 28 - tileref at tileref(*)_area > > Feature Count: 107 - libreft at libref(*)_text > > Feature Count: 28 - tilereft at tileref(*)_text > > > >From libref at libref(*)_line I was able to generate a SHAPE file. > > > >Commands like: > > ogr2ogr watrcrsl.shp \ > > gltp:/vrf/levi0/ssi/BIO/vectordata/vmap0_europe/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \ > > 'watrcrsl at hydro(*)_line' > > > >produced feature-empty, but correct SHAPE files (as no features found). > >I tried this approach with all 76 maps. > > > >The VMAP0/Eurnasia data set requires 750 MB of disk space. So I am > >obviously missing something. > > > >Hints are welcome, > >thanks in advance > > > > Markus Neteler From jvarga at boulder.net Fri Jun 6 18:39:28 2003 From: jvarga at boulder.net (Jack Varga) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] GASB-34 compliance with open source software Message-ID: Greetings, I'm investigating the feasibility of using OSS as a tool to be used for complying with the US-based Government Accounting Standards Board Statement'34 (GASB-34) on improved financial accountability for state and local governements. Particularly to assist in the section that covers first time information about the government's public infrastructure assets, such as bridges, roads, storm sewers, parks and rec facilities, etc. I'm curious if there are subscribers to this list familiar with GASB-34 that have either implemented, or are considering implementing any open source GIS tools for asset tracking. Furthermore, I'm looking for precedence in managing true community-based development efforts to implement open source (in general) GIS/mapping systems. Or to find out if there would be any interest in assisting with such an initiative, however moderate involvement may be. Info on GASB-34 can be found at http://www.gasb.org/repmodel/index.html All comments welcome. Jack From jvarga at boulder.net Fri Jun 6 22:28:21 2003 From: jvarga at boulder.net (Jack Varga) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:28:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] GASB-34 compliance with open source software (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:27:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Jack Varga To: Paul Ramsey Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] GASB-34 compliance with open source software Paul, Great stuff, and thanks. First, a couple clarifications. The concept includes two levels of stakeholders, the community at large that would benefit from the implementation, and the department whose current responsibilities include overseeing asset management. In this particular model, the latter group, (I'll call them the department), would oversee the development of requirements for the system. They would go through a couple/few iterations and then make the the requirements available for public comment, but ultimately the department would be responsible for the system, after all they have been apointed stewards for maintaining the specific assets. In essence you're correct in that developing a set of requirements costs money, but that simply can't be avoided. As a matter of fact, requirement (IMO) should always be driven seperate from some preconceived notion of a solution. Said another way, they should be driven by the need to complete some business process. a set of business processes. The second clarification, in this model the presumption is that perhaps one or more open source applications could serve as the foundation for fulfilling the business process. For that matter, so could some COTS application, or more realistically a combination of the two. The work then is simply an integration effort. If a particular community had an able enough developer base (Silicon Valley for example) that had a vested interest of their own in supporting the development (akin to building a community playground) perhaps a large portion of the development costs could be eliminated. The reality is this kind of model is not possible with proprietary applications because the api's used for extending those applications can't be opened enough to allow your developer community access to the API. Consider for a moment a city with a large SDE implementation holding several data layers. An open source application could be written using a tool like GRASS (or some other GIS) that extracted data from SDE using the OGC's simple features specification and GML/XML to render map data. Such a project would be relatively simple to implement with a good set of requirements. Hope this helps a bit. -j On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Paul Ramsey wrote: > Hi Jack, > > Community-based OSS development efforts have been an interest of mine > for a while, but sadly I have yet to see anything particularly compelling. > > The sad truth is that for complicated systems (like your asset tracking > example) the initial design and development costs are pretty steep. > Using OSS building blocks can knock down the component costs of the > software, but the structure still needs to be built and documented > before ordinary mortals can implement it. The large up front costs for > things like an asset manager end up driving the software development > into a few standard channels. > > The first, and most conventionally understood channel is the canonical > proprietary model -- a company assumes front-end cost and risk of > software development with the hope of recouping dollars through software > sales down the road. Overlaying an OSS licencing model onto this > scenario, the company only magnifies it's downstream risk (X% of users > could simply implement the software without paying the company a dime) > while not receiving alot of perceived benefit. > > The second model is probably alot more common, sadly. A company sells a > (rich) client a partial solution (sometimes duplicitously implying it > already exists), and takes a moderate underfunded (but not unfunded) > risk developing the software from scratch. Multiple development > iterations (funded by the client still) ensue, until the product meets > their needs. At this point the company start re-selling to other > clients, using the initial client as a reference case. > > The third model is like the second, but requires an enlightened client. > The enlightened client realizes that the second model is not > particularly to their benefit (why fund some company's R&D and get > nothing back but a maintenance bill?) and instead of "buying" this (as > yet unbuilt) "product" from the company, contracts for the software to > be built and open sourced. We are getting close to your goal now, but we > still require an initial client wealthy enough to fund 100% of the > development themselves, and enlightened enough to just "give it away" > when they are done. This has happened a few times, often by accident as > software for "internal use" was found to be of interest to a wider > community (GRASS springs to mind). > > The fourth model I have never seen happen. This is where a number of > clients with the same requirements (like your asset management problem) > band together to contract for the required development and open source > it. The initial development cost is shared, and the resulting software > can be enhanced and improved (etc etc) in the usual OSS way. The fourth > model is just so far removed from the usual way people think about > software, and there is so much perceived risk around it, that it has not > really happened yet. It requires a fair amount of coordination and trust > amongst the partners, which are not attributes normally ascribed to > competing juridictions. And why go to all that effort (and take all that > risk) when there is a "COTS" solution the friendly neighborhood software > vendor is flogging? The initertia of the existing IT decision process > mitigates against option four pretty heavily. > > What have your experiences been? > > Yours, > Paul > > Jack Varga wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I'm investigating the feasibility of using OSS as a tool to be used for > > complying with the US-based Government Accounting Standards Board > > Statement'34 (GASB-34) on improved financial accountability for state and > > local governements. Particularly to assist in the section that covers > > first time information about the government's public infrastructure > > assets, such as bridges, roads, storm sewers, parks and rec facilities, > > etc. > > > > I'm curious if there are subscribers to this list familiar with GASB-34 > > that have either implemented, or are considering implementing any open > > source GIS tools for asset tracking. > > > > Furthermore, I'm looking for precedence in managing true community-based > > development efforts to implement open source (in general) GIS/mapping > > systems. Or to find out if there would be any interest in assisting with > > such an initiative, however moderate involvement may be. > > > > Info on GASB-34 can be found at http://www.gasb.org/repmodel/index.html > > > > All comments welcome. > > > > Jack > > > From jan at intevation.de Sun Jun 8 18:15:41 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 18:15:41 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GASB-34 compliance with open source software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030608161541.GD17054@intevation.de> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 10:39:28AM -0600, Jack Varga wrote: > Furthermore, I'm looking for precedence in managing true community-based > development efforts to implement open source (in general) GIS/mapping > systems. Or to find out if there would be any interest in assisting with > such an initiative, however moderate involvement may be. Intevation did some Free GIS Software developments based on contracts with customers. Thuban (thuban.intevation.org) and MapIt! (www.mapit.de) being two of them. Other examples are Refractions (PostGIS), DMSolutions (MapLab) and Frank Warmerdam with various tools. Commercial Free Software works. But it works different than the proprietary business model. With Free Software you are selling service, not boxes or any other sort of permission to use a software. Thus, you have to think about the solution for the client and which value it means to him. Sometimes it really makes sense for a customer to contract for new development instead of bying in into a dependency to a single vendor. But you seldomly will sell a huge development effort. Rather think in smaller steps. So we do with Thuban. Another customer might need a further feature. However, it is also important to honour works of others. Do it with implemention/documentation support or, especially if a company stands behind a Free Software, pay them a small amount (e.g. 1%) of your project budget if this project benefits from their software. A nice example for this is PostGIS and Refractions. If we all pay them small amounts with our commercial projects, they are put into a better position to progress with the development. -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From aft1972 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 10:26:42 2003 From: aft1972 at yahoo.com (Ashraf Tammam) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] protect your maps & Arabic GIS Application Message-ID: <20030609082642.22321.qmail@web41808.mail.yahoo.com> good afternoon if you are searching for a solution to have the ability to distribute your vector layers to your clients to view it only without the ability to use it before buying it this is what you are searching for This program allow users to: ===================== 1. Display shape files and some raster formats (bmp, jpg, gif, ...etc) that using a world file. 2. Search for any feature in any of the displayed shape files. 3. Identify any feature in any of the displayed shape files. 4. Change the symology of any of the displayed shape files and the ability to set the default symbology for the new shape files that will be opened and also the color of the searched and identified features and the map unit. 5. change the order of the displayed layers by drag and drop in the legend and the ability to make any layer visible or not visible. 6. GIS functions (Zoom In , Zoom Area, Zoom Out, Pan, Fit to the selected layer, fit to all displayed layers, Measure Distance, Measure Area, back to previous extents). 7. The ability to choose one of the displayed layers to be a guide layer and pan and zoom over it 8. Create different projects. each of them containing a set of raster and shape files. with the facility to open any of these projects and select one of them to be the default project which will be opened at the starting of the program. 9. The ability to print the current project or any subset of it. This program is a part of a full package that enable map production company to encrypt their shape files (by selecting a code either for each shape file or for a group of shape files and using the Data Preparation Tool module) in a way that their customers can only view these shape files using this viewer and can not use these shape files in any of other GIS application. for more details and for a copy of this software see: http://arcscripts.esri.com/details.asp?dbid=12849 Regards, __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 9 14:13:33 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:13:33 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] protect your maps & Arabic GIS Application In-Reply-To: <20030609082642.22321.qmail@web41808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030609082642.22321.qmail@web41808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030609121333.GA23832@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 01:26:42AM -0700, Ashraf Tammam wrote: > if you are searching for a solution to have the > ability to distribute your vector layers to your > clients to view it only without the ability to use it > before buying it > this is what you are searching for > This program allow users to: I haven't found any evidence that this tool is Free Software. Can you point us to where we can find information on the Free Software license you applied for this tool? Also, I did not find the source code. -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 9 18:28:32 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:28:32 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ShapeLib and Delphi In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030519181913.00a5f060@mail.putra.net.my> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030519181913.00a5f060@mail.putra.net.my> Message-ID: <20030609162832.GD25665@intevation.de> Hi Lewie, On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 06:25:12PM +0800, Lewie Dekker wrote: > I've been trying unsuccessfully to use the ShapeFile / ShapeFileII utility > that supposedly lets a Delphi program read/write shape files using the > shapelib.dll. However, I'm not even passing the compile stage of an empty > project that only attempts that register the dll functions! Obviously I'm > doing something wrong, but I haven't got a clue after a day of frustration. > > Is there anybody in this list who has successfully mastered the use of > shapelib from within delphi? If so, could you post a tiny bit of project > code showing f.i. on how to open a shape file? That might be all I would > need to get going. I've seen no answer so far from this list. You should also try to contact the developers of that library directly. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 9 19:49:04 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:49:04 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] [off-topic] a graph library In-Reply-To: <20030509152059.6016.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> References: <20030509152059.6016.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Message-ID: <20030609174904.GB26308@intevation.de> On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 12:20:59PM -0300, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > Does anybody know VHGraph? ( http://www.vhconsultants.com ) > It's a set of PHP classes for creating graph on web applications and is very interesting. > But I haven't seen any new release or new of it since 02/01/2002. > Does anybody know about its project status? it is no Free Software. It is proprietary and the customers now seem to have a problem with the discontinued development ... no one else is allowed to pick it up. Just another argument why Free Software does make sense in business as well. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jgreid at uow.edu.au Tue Jun 10 06:38:39 2003 From: jgreid at uow.edu.au (John Reid) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:38:39 +1000 Subject: [Freegis-list] VMAP0/Eurnasia -> SHAPE problems (OGR/OGDI driver) In-Reply-To: <20030606170104.G18365@itc.it> References: <20030516174518.M31052@itc.it> <20030520175606.J18822@itc.it> <3EDFF663.6010307@uow.edu.au> <20030606170104.G18365@itc.it> Message-ID: <3EE560CF.1090707@uow.edu.au> Markus, By your comment "after some tricks it works now" I assume you have managed to get the failed 72 maps working? Where did you source your VMAP0 data from? John Markus Neteler wrote: >John, >(cc FreeGIS) > >On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:03:15PM +1000, John Reid wrote: > > >>Markus, >> >>Out of curiosity, did the VMAP0 datasources for the 72 maps that failed >>to report any features use the tiled VPF data structure? And the maps >>that did work had their features untiled? Sorry for my atrocious >>terminology - been a while since I looked at this. >> >> > >Good question - how to find out? I only downloaded the file from NIMA >and tried to use it. Well, after some tricks it works now, enjoy the new >mapserver: > >http://mpa.itc.it/markus/mapserver/ >(the site may be a bit overloaded) > > > >>The other problem I experienced with VPF data was that some VPF >>datasets do not conform to the published specification. I know I had to >>rename a few directories to get the Global 1M dataset for Australia >>working. If you need more details, please contact me and I will find my >>notes on the problem. >> >> > >Yes, you have to rename all files with trailing period (delete this period). >Only then the OGR/OGDI driver works... > >Then I have the impression that the OGR/OGDI driver does not work over NFS. > >Cheers > > Markus > > > > >>Markus Neteler wrote: >> >> >> >>>Dear list members, >>> >>>[I already posted on GDAL-dev, sorry for crossposting - now I try here] >>> >>>did anyone (successfully) manage to convert VMAP0/Eurnasia >>>to SHAPE format (or some other widely used GIS format supported >>>by OGR)? >>> >>>I have compiled the OGDI-3.1.1 driver on Redhat Linux (a few >>>Makefile changes were required), then compiled OGR with >>>OGDI support (CVS version of GDAL/OGR). >>> >>>The 'ogrinfo' works well, but only reports features for 4 maps >>>of 76 maps: >>> >>>For >>>- 72 maps is reported that they contain 0 features >>>- 4 maps contain this number of features: >>> Feature Count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line >>> Feature Count: 28 - tileref at tileref(*)_area >>> Feature Count: 107 - libreft at libref(*)_text >>> Feature Count: 28 - tilereft at tileref(*)_text >>> >>> >>> >>>From libref at libref(*)_line I was able to generate a SHAPE file. >> >> >>>Commands like: >>>ogr2ogr watrcrsl.shp \ >>> gltp:/vrf/levi0/ssi/BIO/vectordata/vmap0_europe/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \ >>> 'watrcrsl at hydro(*)_line' >>> >>>produced feature-empty, but correct SHAPE files (as no features found). >>>I tried this approach with all 76 maps. >>> >>>The VMAP0/Eurnasia data set requires 750 MB of disk space. So I am >>>obviously missing something. >>> >>>Hints are welcome, >>>thanks in advance >>> >>> Markus Neteler >>> >>> > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- john reid e-mail: jgreid at uow.edu.au technical officer building 41, room G03A school of geosciences phone: +61 02 4221 3963 university of wollongong fax: +61 02 4221 4250 nsw 2522 australia uproot your questions from their ground and the dangling roots will be seen. more questions! -mentat zensufi apply standard disclaimers as desired... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From neteler at itc.it Tue Jun 10 11:13:58 2003 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:13:58 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] VMAP0/Eurnasia -> SHAPE problems (OGR/OGDI driver) In-Reply-To: <3EE560CF.1090707@uow.edu.au>; from jgreid@uow.edu.au on Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:38:39PM +1000 References: <20030516174518.M31052@itc.it> <20030520175606.J18822@itc.it> <3EDFF663.6010307@uow.edu.au> <20030606170104.G18365@itc.it> <3EE560CF.1090707@uow.edu.au> Message-ID: <20030610111358.C18302@itc.it> John, On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:38:39PM +1000, John Reid wrote: > Markus, > > By your comment "after some tricks it works now" I assume you have > managed to get the failed 72 maps working? Right. The MapServer ist up-and-running, but does not contain (yet) all 76 maps. For the tricks see the old comments below. > Where did you source your VMAP0 data from? I got them from http://geoengine.nima.mil Markus > John > > Markus Neteler wrote: > > >John, > >(cc FreeGIS) > > > >On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:03:15PM +1000, John Reid wrote: > > > > > >>Markus, > >> > >>Out of curiosity, did the VMAP0 datasources for the 72 maps that failed > >>to report any features use the tiled VPF data structure? And the maps > >>that did work had their features untiled? Sorry for my atrocious > >>terminology - been a while since I looked at this. > >> > >> > > > >Good question - how to find out? I only downloaded the file from NIMA > >and tried to use it. Well, after some tricks it works now, enjoy the new > >mapserver: > > > >http://mpa.itc.it/markus/mapserver/ > >(the site may be a bit overloaded) > > > > > > > >>The other problem I experienced with VPF data was that some VPF > >>datasets do not conform to the published specification. I know I had to > >>rename a few directories to get the Global 1M dataset for Australia > >>working. If you need more details, please contact me and I will find my > >>notes on the problem. > >> > >> > > > >Yes, you have to rename all files with trailing period (delete this period). > >Only then the OGR/OGDI driver works... > > > >Then I have the impression that the OGR/OGDI driver does not work over NFS. > > > >Cheers > > > > Markus > > > > > > > > > >>Markus Neteler wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Dear list members, > >>> > >>>[I already posted on GDAL-dev, sorry for crossposting - now I try here] > >>> > >>>did anyone (successfully) manage to convert VMAP0/Eurnasia > >>>to SHAPE format (or some other widely used GIS format supported > >>>by OGR)? > >>> > >>>I have compiled the OGDI-3.1.1 driver on Redhat Linux (a few > >>>Makefile changes were required), then compiled OGR with > >>>OGDI support (CVS version of GDAL/OGR). > >>> > >>>The 'ogrinfo' works well, but only reports features for 4 maps > >>>of 76 maps: > >>> > >>>For > >>>- 72 maps is reported that they contain 0 features > >>>- 4 maps contain this number of features: > >>> Feature Count: 1424 - libref at libref(*)_line > >>> Feature Count: 28 - tileref at tileref(*)_area > >>> Feature Count: 107 - libreft at libref(*)_text > >>> Feature Count: 28 - tilereft at tileref(*)_text > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>From libref at libref(*)_line I was able to generate a SHAPE file. > >> > >> > >>>Commands like: > >>>ogr2ogr watrcrsl.shp \ > >>> gltp:/vrf/levi0/ssi/BIO/vectordata/vmap0_europe/v0eur/vmaplv0/eurnasia \ > >>> 'watrcrsl at hydro(*)_line' > >>> > >>>produced feature-empty, but correct SHAPE files (as no features found). > >>>I tried this approach with all 76 maps. > >>> > >>>The VMAP0/Eurnasia data set requires 750 MB of disk space. So I am > >>>obviously missing something. > >>> > >>>Hints are welcome, > >>>thanks in advance > >>> > >>> Markus Neteler > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > john reid e-mail: jgreid at uow.edu.au > technical officer building 41, room G03A > school of geosciences phone: +61 02 4221 3963 > university of wollongong fax: +61 02 4221 4250 > nsw 2522 australia > > uproot your questions from their ground and the dangling roots will be > seen. more questions! > -mentat zensufi > > apply standard disclaimers as desired... > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- Markus Neteler ITC-irst, Istituto per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy http://mpa.itc.it From bart.van.den.eijnden at geodan.nl Wed Jun 11 21:58:52 2003 From: bart.van.den.eijnden at geodan.nl (Bart van den Eijnden) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:58:52 +0200 Subject: [freegis-list] WMS javascript client Message-ID: Hi List, does anybody know about a free Javascript&HTML webmapping client that can talk to OpenGIS WMS (=Web Map Server) services? Functions wanted like zoom in with a box, ruler tool etc. Thanks, Bart From adoyle at intl-interfaces.com Fri Jun 13 17:29:55 2003 From: adoyle at intl-interfaces.com (Allan Doyle) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:29:55 -0400 Subject: [freegis-list] WMS javascript client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16105.60915.512028.316741@intl-interfaces.com> I asked this question a few months ago. Here is what I found. In the meantime, I found out that the USGS has one as well that they are considering releasing as open source but as far as I know, that has not happened yet. This one is under the NCSA license http://sourceforge.net/projects/inlinewms/ Note: this one is only for non-commercial use so it's not Free Software http://tsadev.speciesanalyst.net/documentation/ow.asp?InlineWMSMap On Wednesday, June 11 2003 at 21:58:52(+0200) Bart van den Eijnden wrote: > Hi List, > > does anybody know about a free Javascript&HTML webmapping client that can > talk to OpenGIS WMS (=Web Map Server) services? Functions wanted like zoom > in with a box, ruler tool etc. > > Thanks, > Bart > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Allan Doyle http://www.intl-interfaces.com +1.781.433.2695 (Office) adoyle at intl-interfaces.com +1.781.634.0421 (FAX) From ronan at informatique-mer.Fr Mon Jun 16 15:24:45 2003 From: ronan at informatique-mer.Fr (Ronan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:24:45 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Polynomial approximation of control points Message-ID: <000501c3340a$a734ab70$5200000a@informatiquemer.fr> I'm looking for a C/C++ source code for a polynomial approximation of control points. Input : X Y LAT LON of control points. Output : polynomial coefficients, any degree of polynomial (1, 2, 3.) Can be used from projected coordinates (XY) to LAT / LON and back. The purpuse is to georeference raster charts from a paper source. I've not seen any software at FreeGIS with such capacity. I'm not expert of all freegis software, but usually they use rectified images, conformal to one defined projection. They do not manage errors in shape from paper source. Ronan GOLHEN Technical Manager I&M http://www.maxsea.com http://www.navcenter.com mailto:ronan at informatique-mer.fr Tel:33 (0)5 59 43 81 02 Fax: 33 (0)5 59 43 81 01 Mobile : 33 (0)6 10 76 66 51 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More infos: http://wiki.ael.be/rmll2003/index.php/GIS RMLL2003: http://rencontresmondiales.org/ -- Benjamin Henrion http://bh.udev.org From warmerdam at pobox.com Mon Jun 16 17:43:46 2003 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:43:46 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Polynomial approximation of control points In-Reply-To: <000501c3340a$a734ab70$5200000a@informatiquemer.fr> References: <000501c3340a$a734ab70$5200000a@informatiquemer.fr> Message-ID: <3EEDE5B2.4050105@pobox.com> Ronan wrote: > I’m looking for a C/C++ source code for a polynomial approximation of > control points. > > > > Input : X Y LAT LON of control points. > > Output : polynomial coefficients, any degree of polynomial (1, 2, 3…) > > Can be used from projected coordinates (XY) to LAT / LON and back. > > > > The purpuse is to georeference raster charts from a paper source. Ronan, I know that GRASS and GDAL have some level of support for polynomial based warping of images. The code in GDAL can be found in gdal/alg/gdal_crs.c. I have had some robustness problems with it at 3rd order and I don't think it does any higher orders. The code can be used with the gdalwarp and gdalwarptest utilities, but it isn't that easy to specify the control points if they are not already contained and supported by the format driver. I am interested in hearing if you find a better resources. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From Ludger.Steffens at t-mobile.de Tue Jun 17 10:33:35 2003 From: Ludger.Steffens at t-mobile.de (Steffens, Ludger) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:33:35 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] reading Arc/Info geo_dataset Message-ID: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E97@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> Hi, does anybody ever read an Arc/Info database (cover, grid ie.) with tools other than coming from ESRI, preferable with in C/C++ ? Is there a port to Linux? I want to read some information from a grid with C/C++ like the Arc/Info describe-comand does. Is there a library doing such things? Ludger Steffens From warmerdam at pobox.com Tue Jun 17 15:31:01 2003 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:31:01 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] reading Arc/Info geo_dataset In-Reply-To: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E97@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> References: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E97@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> Message-ID: <3EEF1815.9060506@pobox.com> Steffens, Ludger wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody ever read an Arc/Info database (cover, grid ie.) with tools other than coming from ESRI, preferable with in C/C++ ? Is there a port to Linux? > I want to read some information from a grid with C/C++ like the Arc/Info describe-comand does. > Is there a library doing such things? Ludger, The GDAL library includes support for reading Arc/Info binary grids without use of ESRI software. GDAL also supports ESRI labelled BIL, and ESRI ASCII grid files. The OGR (part of GDAL) library can read Arc/Info binary vector coverages as well as good read/write support for shapefiles. I am not aware of any free tools for reading the new Arc8 "geodatabase" .mdb files though on inspection it appears the geometry is just the same format as geometries in a shapefile. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From jan at intevation.de Tue Jun 17 15:31:34 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:31:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Announcement: FreeGIS CD 1.2.3 Message-ID: <20030617133134.GA11676@intevation.de> FreeGIS-CD 1.2.3 for GNU/Linux systems released With its extensively updated eleventh edition (v1.2.3) the FreeGIS-CD offers to enhance GNU/Linux distributions with a collection of geographic information processing capabilities. Osnabr?ck 17th of June 2003. With the publishing of the eleventh version of the FreeGIS CD (v1.2.3) the Intevation GmbH updates all GIS packages and extends the documentation. The CD presents a collection of GIS applications, libraries and data sets in current, stable versions. It contains e.g. GRASS, MapServer, gdal, PROJ, GLOBE and the simple viewer Thuban. With Frida now a detailed street map of a german city (Osnabr?ck) is included. Another focus of the FreeGIS CD is the provision of documentation. HTML- and PDF-versions of several documents are directly accessible from the CD. For better availability they can also be installed on the computer. The FreeGIS-Tutorial and the GAV GRASS course (both in german language) help to lower the entry barrier towards the GIS applications. The now published FreeGIS CD was tested on the major Linux-based GNU-Systems RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE and Debian. "This collection demonstrates the spectrum of Free GIS Software as well as its great power and flexibility. An increasing user community accelerates the process of development and integration of the components", explains Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner, coordinater of the FreeGIS-Project. "The FreeGIS CD will be regulary updated and extended in the future." The FreeGIS-CD v1.2.3 can be ordered for 30 Euros through Intevation GmbH and ships out of Germany and North America. http://freegis.org/order.en.html About the FreeGIS Project: -------------------------- The FreeGIS project focusses on Free Software and data related to geographic information processing and mapping. A comprehensive overview about available software can be found on the website. Map creation and analysis of spatial data is becoming a widespread application. The project promotes exclusivly Free Software solutions which means that everybody has the freedom to use, modify and redistribute them. http://freegis.org About Intevation GmbH --------------------- The Intevation GmbH specialized in Free Software and offers IT-services in the areas of strategic consulting, project management & realization and GIS solutions. For all activities, Intevation places emphasize on Free Software, active communication management, modern development technologies and usability design. The GIS unit implements a broad spectrum of individual solutions ranging from browser-based work on digital maps, development of specific applications upto Location Based Services (LBS) in conjunction with spatial databases. http://intevation.net Press contact: intevation at intevation.de Fon: ++49 - 541 - 33 508 30 Fax: ++49 - 541 - 33 508 59 -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From neteler at itc.it Wed Jun 18 12:24:03 2003 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:24:03 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] reading Arc/Info geo_dataset In-Reply-To: <3EEF1815.9060506@pobox.com> References: <9A90A636A4780D4A81D89535C0034F3BD66E97@cvx0dabnlw.BN.DeTeMobil.de> <3EEF1815.9060506@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20030618102403.GH10245@thuille.itc.it> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:31:01AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Steffens, Ludger wrote: > >Hi, > > > >does anybody ever read an Arc/Info database (cover, grid ie.) with tools > >other than coming from ESRI, preferable with in C/C++ ? Is there a port to > >Linux? > >I want to read some information from a grid with C/C++ like the Arc/Info > >describe-comand does. Is there a library doing such things? > > Ludger, > > The GDAL library includes support for reading Arc/Info binary grids without > use of ESRI software. GDAL also supports ESRI labelled BIL, and ESRI > ASCII grid files. > > The OGR (part of GDAL) library can read Arc/Info binary vector coverages > as well as good read/write support for shapefiles. > > I am not aware of any free tools for reading the new Arc8 "geodatabase" > .mdb files though on inspection it appears the geometry is just the same > format as geometries in a shapefile. Being no expert, but is .mdb an MS-ACCESS derivate: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2001-August/000569.html ? If yes, the mdb-tools may be helpful: http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ "The MDB Tools project is a effort to document the MDB file format used in Microsoft's Access database package, and to provide a set of tools and applications to make that data available on other platforms. Specifically, MDB Tools includes programs to export schema and data to other databases such as MySQL, Oracle, Sybase, PostgreSQL, and others." Best regards Markus From ronan at informatique-mer.Fr Wed Jun 18 13:04:52 2003 From: ronan at informatique-mer.Fr (Ronan) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:04:52 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] OGR S57 data displayed as S52 Message-ID: <001201c33589$714513d0$5200000a@informatiquemer.fr> OGR can read S57 file format. This format has been standardised by the International Hydrographic Office (IHO). This data display is also standardised as IHO S52 and Presentation Library. One archived email (2001) refers to OGR and the S52 standard. As someone already worked on this subject? I'm interested in reference to display code according to S52 standard, and also display code of any vector data on top of OGR. Ronan GOLHEN Technical Manager I&M http://www.maxsea.com http://www.navcenter.com mailto:ronan at informatique-mer.fr Tel:33 (0)5 59 43 81 02 Fax: 33 (0)5 59 43 81 01 Mobile : 33 (0)6 10 76 66 51 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030618/208bbcef/attachment.html From jvarga at boulder.net Wed Jun 18 16:45:10 2003 From: jvarga at boulder.net (Jack Varga) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] reading Arc/Info geo_dataset In-Reply-To: <20030618102403.GH10245@thuille.itc.it> Message-ID: Markus inadvertantly highlighted a larger issue. Which ESRI "database" format are you referring to? There is the old .e00 and compressed .e00. Then there is shape format, SDE and now the concept of an object relational data store, geodatabase, that can either reside in an SDE instance or as a personal data store in M$ Access (i.e., .MDB) format. Oh, one other format, and that is INFO's native format on a filesystem. The .e00 format is INFO's inherent export format. -jv On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:31:01AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > > Steffens, Ludger wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >does anybody ever read an Arc/Info database (cover, grid ie.) with tools > > >other than coming from ESRI, preferable with in C/C++ ? Is there a port to > > >Linux? > > >I want to read some information from a grid with C/C++ like the Arc/Info > > >describe-comand does. Is there a library doing such things? > > > > Ludger, > > > > The GDAL library includes support for reading Arc/Info binary grids without > > use of ESRI software. GDAL also supports ESRI labelled BIL, and ESRI > > ASCII grid files. > > > > The OGR (part of GDAL) library can read Arc/Info binary vector coverages > > as well as good read/write support for shapefiles. > > > > I am not aware of any free tools for reading the new Arc8 "geodatabase" > > .mdb files though on inspection it appears the geometry is just the same > > format as geometries in a shapefile. > > Being no expert, but is .mdb an MS-ACCESS derivate: > http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2001-August/000569.html > ? > > If yes, the mdb-tools may be helpful: > http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ > > "The MDB Tools project is a effort to document the MDB file format used in > Microsoft's Access database package, and to provide a set of tools and > applications to make that data available on other platforms. > Specifically, MDB Tools includes programs to export schema and data to other > databases such as MySQL, Oracle, Sybase, PostgreSQL, and others." > > > Best regards > > Markus > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From neteler at itc.it Thu Jun 19 17:30:01 2003 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:30:01 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] "GRASS-Handbuch" published under GNU FDL Message-ID: <20030619173001.A3739@itc.it> Announcement The "GRASS-Handbuch" in German language has been published under GNU FDL (Free Document License). Neteler, M. (2000, mit Aktualisierungen von 2003): GRASS-Handbuch. Der praktische Leitfaden zum Geographischen Informationssystem GRASS. 266 S. Published May 2003 under GNU FDL. http://grass.itc.it/gdp/handbuch/ Complete PDF file: - download from web site of GDF Hannover bR, Germany: http://www.grass-gis.de/grass/grassbuecher.html Buy printed book: - from GDF Hannover bR, Germany: http://www.grass-gis.de/grass/grassbuecher.html - from Intevation GmbH, Germany: http://freegis.org/order.en.html Costs: around 25 Euro -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst, Istituto per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu Thu Jun 19 23:02:48 2003 From: cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu (Christopher Jon Jursa) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:02:48 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Post to this group in Outlook Express? Message-ID: Hello, I would like to post and view messages of this group. However, I would prefer (if possible) to do it with Microsoft Outlook Express newsreader. I tried to connect to the NNTP server as indicated on https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list but it says the server cannot be found. What exact server address do I use? gis.freegis-list or server news2.sinica.edu.tw? Should I use password logging in? If so, what should be my username? My email? Sincerely, Christopher Jursa Geoinformatics Laboratory Administrator School of Information Sciences University of Pittsburgh Email: cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu Tel: (412) 624-8858 From jan at intevation.de Fri Jun 20 07:20:42 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:20:42 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Post to this group in Outlook Express? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030620052042.GA17138@intevation.de> On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 05:02:48PM -0400, Christopher Jon Jursa wrote: > I would like to post and view messages of this group. However, I would > prefer (if possible) to do it with Microsoft Outlook Express newsreader. first of all I recommend to drop Outlook and use a Free Software tool :-) Mozilla might be an option for you ... > I tried to connect to the NNTP server as indicated on > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list but it says the server > cannot be found. > > What exact server address do I use? gis.freegis-list or server > news2.sinica.edu.tw? > Should I use password logging in? If so, what should be my username? My > email? This server is not maintained by the FreeGIS team. Dan Jacobson set up the nntp service. Please get in contact with him. An let me know if you get a positive answer - if not I will remove the hint on our page. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From bh at udev.org Mon Jun 23 11:19:01 2003 From: bh at udev.org (Henrion Benjamin) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:19:01 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS conference at RMLL2003 9th July (Metz, France) Message-ID: <20030623091901.GA5401@localhost> Hello, Just to inform you that there will be a track of conferences related to GIS and Open Source Free Software during the RMLL2003 that will held in Metz (France) on the 9th July. There are quite interesting presentations, I hope to see there (it's just before Linuxtag, at 200km of Karlsruhe). List of presentations: http://rencontresmondiales.org/program/view_topic.php?topic_id=22 More about RMLL2003: http://rencontresmondiales.org/ -- Benjamin Henrion http://bh.udev.org From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Jun 23 16:32:49 2003 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:32:49 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS conference In-Reply-To: <20030623091901.GA5401@localhost> References: <20030623091901.GA5401@localhost> Message-ID: <20030623143249.GC18583@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:19:01AM +0200, Henrion Benjamin wrote: > Just to inform you that there will be a track of conferences related to > GIS and Open Source Free Software It is strange that the confusion of terminology surrounding Free Software seem to be inflating. Some people started calling Free Software "Open Source" around 1998. Their aim was to create a marketing program for Free Software with two steps: First make the practical pitch and then explain about the values of freedom in a second step. Unfortunately the second step did not happen as the term went popular, which make many people (including promined founding members of the OSI) believe that the goal of the campain was not reached and the effort backfired and brought more confusion in the end. Saying something like "Open Source Free Software" makes the confusion even deeper, because the set of licenses which are Free Software and what some people suboptimally call "Open Source" is (except border cases) the same set. In contrast to this the political movements can be clearly distinquished. Thus if you refer to software alone, the terms are already equal. When a reference is made the choice of one of the two terms is also a poltical sign. Using both is an attempt to stay neutral. In my eyes the attempt is flawed. Especially in the case at hand Free Software might wrongly translate to "gratis" for many readers if people know the meaining of "Open Source" to software, because they'll never expect that a second term will mean the same, otherwise it would have been superflous and would not have been mentioned. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030623/bb6d4abb/attachment.bin From bh at udev.org Mon Jun 23 16:49:42 2003 From: bh at udev.org (Henrion Benjamin) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:49:42 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS conference In-Reply-To: <20030623143249.GC18583@intevation.de> References: <20030623091901.GA5401@localhost> <20030623143249.GC18583@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20030623144942.GA11011@localhost> Bernhard Reiter [030623]: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:19:01AM +0200, Henrion Benjamin wrote: > > Just to inform you that there will be a track of conferences related to > > GIS and Open Source Free Software > > It is strange that the confusion of terminology > surrounding Free Software seem to be inflating. Sorry, I've forgotten the "/". I consider that Open Source Licences are listed here: http://opensource.org And the definition of Free Software is there: http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html Meanwhile, I think that every project that will be presented during the conference are released under GPL compatibles licences. So I had made a mistake in saying that there were "Open Source" projects in the track. -- Benjamin Henrion http://bh.udev.org From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Jun 23 17:08:49 2003 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:08:49 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GIS conference In-Reply-To: <20030623144942.GA11011@localhost> References: <20030623091901.GA5401@localhost> <20030623143249.GC18583@intevation.de> <20030623144942.GA11011@localhost> Message-ID: <20030623150849.GF18583@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:49:42PM +0200, Henrion Benjamin wrote: > Bernhard Reiter [030623]: > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:19:01AM +0200, Henrion Benjamin wrote: > > > Just to inform you that there will be a track of conferences related to > > > GIS and Open Source Free Software > > > > It is strange that the confusion of terminology > > surrounding Free Software seem to be inflating. > > Sorry, I've forgotten the "/". I consider that Open Source Licences are > listed here: > > http://opensource.org > > And the definition of Free Software is there: > > http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html > > Meanwhile, I think that every project that will be presented during the > conference are released under GPL compatibles licences. So I had made a > mistake in saying that there were "Open Source" projects in the track. No, your statement was correct regading the status of the _software_. Even non-GNU GPL compatible licenses granting the necessary freedoms are Free Software licenses. Like I wrote in my first mail, the set of software is practically the same. It ought to be this way because the OSI definition of "Open Source" was meant to be a different description of Free Software and as text was derived from the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Maybe the sketch on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html is helpful to understand this. On the other hand your statement had a political component which said you value the practical short term reasons (like cost) higher that the larger social aspects (like being independent of large companies). Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030623/d696d7ed/attachment.bin From samvith at email.com Mon Jun 23 22:52:32 2003 From: samvith at email.com (samvith srinivas) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:52:32 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tiger Line data to Svg Message-ID: <20030623205233.13755.qmail@email.com> Hello, My question regards conversion of Tiger Line data to SVG. For our research , we are using tiger line data (RT1 ,RT2 ) and will be running some computations on this data to produce outputs( Lines and points). We are planning making this visible through a software that handles SVG data. We would like to convert this line data into SVG using GML as a wrapper and convert this GML into SVG using XSLT. I have come across some correspondence on this mailing list that suggests that these conversions are possible and that some of these converters( GML -> SVG[using XSLT]) maybe available online as well ? How is this possible ? are these converters already available and if not is there any source that could guide us through creating them ? Your input will be much appreciated. Thank you, Samvith -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers From jan at intevation.de Tue Jun 24 09:42:34 2003 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:42:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Fwd: RE: [wms-dev] Reading XML with JavaScript In-Reply-To: <16046.38384.940491.104695@intl-interfaces.com> References: <16046.38384.940491.104695@intl-interfaces.com> Message-ID: <20030624074234.GA12072@intevation.de> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:10:40AM -0400, Allan Doyle wrote: > Here's an open source, inline WMS client that doesn't seem to be in > the FreeGIS database yet. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/inlinewms/ it is not on FreeGIS because it is no Free Software! The license reads: |... | This software is provided for academic and research use only. |... This renders it proprietary software and I recommend not to use it since it is arguable where academic use ends and other use begins. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jmacgill at psu.edu Mon Jun 23 23:17:12 2003 From: jmacgill at psu.edu (James Macgill) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tiger Line data to Svg In-Reply-To: <20030623205233.13755.qmail@email.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030623170844.03961cb8@email.psu.edu> At 03:52 PM 6/23/2003 -0500, samvith srinivas wrote: >Hello, >My question regards conversion of Tiger Line data to SVG. For our research >, we are using tiger line data (RT1 ,RT2 ) and will be running some >computations on this data to produce outputs( Lines and points). >We are planning making this visible through a software that handles SVG >data. We would like to convert this line data into SVG using GML as a >wrapper and convert this GML into SVG using XSLT. I have come across some >correspondence on this mailing list that suggests that these conversions >are possible and that some of these converters( GML -> SVG[using >XSLT]) maybe available online as well ? How is this possible ? are >these converters already available and if not is there any source that >could guide us through creating them ? GeoTools 2 is capable of turning GML 2 into SVG by combining the GML with an OGC Styled Layer Description document (or hand coded styling if preferred). However this is done using a Java class library and not using XSLT so it may not be suitable for your needs. If you are happy with using a Java toolkit in your pipleline let me know and I'll do what I can to help. All the best James From fitzke at giub.uni-bonn.de Tue Jun 24 17:12:59 2003 From: fitzke at giub.uni-bonn.de (Jens Fitzke) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:12:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tiger Line data to Svg In-Reply-To: <20030623205233.13755.qmail@email.com> References: <20030623205233.13755.qmail@email.com> Message-ID: <3EF86A7B.3090907@giub.uni-bonn.de> Hi Samvith, the deegree Web Feature Server (http://deegree.sourceforge.net) is capable of doing what you're looking for. The GML Feature Collection produced by a getFeature request can be processed by an additional XSLT script (which might produce SVG). the following configuration snippet shows how (it is the FILTER param which points to the XSLT script): [...] file:///home/xx/xx.xsd ... If you think that deegree might be a solution to your problem, I'd suggest to register to the project's user mailing list (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/deegree-users). Also, you could take a look at some postings by Luigi M. (5/2003) who worked on the GML/SVG topic. Jens samvith srinivas wrote: > Hello, > My question regards conversion of Tiger Line data to SVG. For our research , we are using tiger line data (RT1 ,RT2 ) and will be running some computations on this data to produce outputs( Lines and points). > We are planning making this visible through a software that handles SVG data. We would like to convert this line data into SVG using GML as a wrapper and convert this GML into SVG using XSLT. I have come across some correspondence on this mailing list that suggests that these conversions are possible and that some of these converters( GML -> SVG[using XSLT]) maybe available online as well ? How is this possible ? are these converters already available and if not is there any source that could guide us through creating them ? > > Your input will be much appreciated. > Thank you, > Samvith From aft1972 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 19:28:39 2003 From: aft1972 at yahoo.com (Ashraf Tammam) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] building a pocket PC GIS application Message-ID: <20030625172839.73037.qmail@web41807.mail.yahoo.com> is there any one know any GIS libraries to create a GIS applications or network shortest path on pocket PC? regards __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From jonathan at intevation.de Thu Jun 26 10:27:39 2003 From: jonathan at intevation.de (Jonathan Coles) Date: 26 Jun 2003 10:27:39 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Thuban 0.8.0 Released Message-ID: <1056616059.654.10.camel@reisen> ====================================================================== Thuban 0.8.0 Released ====================================================================== After quite a few months since 0.2.0, I'm pleased to announce that the next release of Thuban, version 0.8.0, is finally here! There are lots of new features to explore. Here's an overview: - Projection Management The new projection dialog makes it possible to import, export, create and select projections which can then be applied to layers and maps. - Automatic Classification Generation The tedious work of adding new groups to a classification is greatly simplied with this new tool. Classificatons can be generated using uniform distributions, unique values, or quantiles. The visual properties (e.g. line width, line color, and fill color) are also adjusted according to predefined color schemes, or a custom scheme. - Image Layers Images that are supported by GDAL (e.g. GeoTIFF) can be added to Thuban as layers. They then behave just as layers do and can be raised, lowered, and even projected. - Table Joins Independent tables can be opened with Thuban and joined with other tables. The results can then be exported or treated just as any other table in the session. - Table Queries The table view has a new query function which allows shapes to be selected based on certain criteria which their fields match. Results from a query are highlighted both in the table and in the map. Queries can also be refined with other search criteria. - Legend The legend provides a more user-friendly face to the session tree (which is still available). It displays each layer along with any classification. The layers can be raised, lowered, shown, or hidden through the toolbar on the legend. A layer's properties are accessible by double-clicking a layer or selecting the properties button. - Improved Printing Maps are framed and printed with the legend and scalebar. - Export under Windows On Windows platforms maps can be exported to Enhanced Meta-File format. Download: http://thuban.intevation.org/download.html Screenshots: http://thuban.intevation.org/screenshots.html Please submit bug reports here: http://thuban.intevation.org/bugtracker.html Thanks to everyone who helped make this release possible. Enjoy! --jonathan -- ====================================================================== Jonathan Coles jonathan at intevation.de Intevation GmbH http://www.intevation.de ====================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20030626/75d5893e/attachment.bin From jidanni at jidanni.org Thu Jun 26 23:02:14 2003 From: jidanni at jidanni.org (Dan Jacobson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 05:02:14 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Post to this group in Outlook Express? In-Reply-To: <20030620052042.GA17138@intevation.de> (Jan-Oliver Wagner's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:20:42 +0200") References: <20030620052042.GA17138@intevation.de> Message-ID: <87vfus1rjd.fsf@jidanni.org> we all read it on gmane.comp.gis.freegis via nntp or http, see gmane.org jan: you can post this info boldly to your front pages, noting http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.gis.freegis with the emphasis on NNTP though. From guano at usp.br Sun Jun 29 18:52:44 2003 From: guano at usp.br (Carlos Henrique Grohmann de Carvalho) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:52:44 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] stereonet Message-ID: <20030629165240.1288B36D7E@mail.intevation.de> Hello all, I´m searching for a stereonet program for linux, but is hard to find. Does anyone know if there is something like stereonett (John Duyster), or Quickplot that runs on linux? thanks +-------------------------------------------------+ Carlos Henrique Grohmann de Carvalho - Guano Geologist - MSc Student at IGc-USP - Brazil Linux User #89721 ICQ: 214752832 +-------------------------------------------------+ From cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu Mon Jun 30 18:26:00 2003 From: cjursa at mail.sis.pitt.edu (Christopher Jon Jursa) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:26:00 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Post to this group in Outlook Express? References: <20030620052042.GA17138@intevation.de> <87vfus1rjd.fsf@jidanni.org> Message-ID: Got it! Thanks. I was using the wrong server. I needed to use "news.gmane.org". Cheers, Chris "Dan Jacobson" wrote in message news:87vfus1rjd.fsf at jidanni.org... > we all read it on gmane.comp.gis.freegis via nntp or http, see gmane.org > > jan: you can post this info boldly to your front pages, noting > http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.gis.freegis > with the emphasis on NNTP though.