From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 3 12:06:35 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:06:35 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Standard industrial Vector Map file format for GIS In-Reply-To: <001201c2064a$cf0d7f30$b201a8c0@patni.com> References: <20020528122345.GE14669@intevation.de> <001201c2064a$cf0d7f30$b201a8c0@patni.com> Message-ID: <20020603100635.GA880@intevation.de> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 06:53:08PM +0530, Daljit wrote: > Can anyone suggest me which is the best Standard industrial Vector Map file > format for GIS systems on a PDA ? I think, there is not 'the best' format - it always depends on the purpose. A good standard for accessing geo-data is via the OpenGIS SFs, but you probably don't want to run PostGIS/PostgreSQL on your PDA ;-) If you are looking for file formats, you should first reflect your needs (what do you want to use the geo-data for?). This might exclude some formats a priori or might show that you have no need for a sophisticated format and rather can use a broadly supported one (e.g. Shapefile). Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jun 3 13:16:16 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:16:16 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Standard industrial Vector Map file format for GIS In-Reply-To: <001001c20aea$a76cb6e0$b201a8c0@patni.com> References: <20020603100635.GA880@intevation.de> <001001c20aea$a76cb6e0$b201a8c0@patni.com> Message-ID: <20020603111616.GB954@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 04:07:25PM +0530, Daljit wrote: > I need to use Vector files to support a traveller guide application on a > PDA. This application will support roadmaps and railway information. This > application will have standard GIS application graphical features like > zoom-in zoom-out ,scrolling and data filtering depending on the image > resolution. The file format is needed to store geopraphical information on > PDA. It will be bundled with text files as database for attribute > information. This will be a standalone application. > > Please suggest best suitable vector file format for these requirements. Shapefile format appears suitable. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From dietrick at bbn.com Tue Jun 4 14:41:01 2002 From: dietrick at bbn.com (Don Dietrick) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:41:01 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] OpenMap 4.5 has been released! In-Reply-To: <20020604100002.11754.33637.Mailman@doto.intevation.de> Message-ID: <538A4690-77B8-11D6-9C87-000393033D5C@bbn.com> We are pleased to announce that OpenMap 4.5 has been released, and is available on the website (http://openmap.bbn.com). The features of the new release are available in the ChangeLog in the package, and were also outlined in the pre-release announcement last week (http://openmap.bbn.com/mailArchives/openmap-users/2002-05/0888.html). There are a couple of other new things we'd like to call attention to as well. First, the website now has a 'Who's using OpenMap?' page, which contains links, screenshots and information about how OpenMap is being used. We'd like to keep adding entries to this page, so please keep giving us information about your program - with as much information as you'd like - so your efforts can be included in the display. We've also started a Bugzilla page for OpenMap for bug reporting and tracking (http://openmap.bbn.com/bugzilla). We're in the process of populating it with past bug reports, but please feel free to use the system to suggest enhancements and feature requests as well. We hope that this system will not only help us track outstanding bugs, but will also provide a place where people want to contribute can find out what other users need. Lastly, this release includes code developed by BBN Technologies that allows OpenMap to be used as a .NET Web Service. There is a demonstration page for these components at http://winmap.bbn.com/OpenMapWeb/webmap.aspx, and the source code is in the OpenMap package under openmap/iis. In order to use these components, you must have the IIS web server, the .NET framework and a Java 2 JRE installed on your Windows system. This is an exciting addition to OpenMap, providing a dynamic HTML client and/or an interface to access and control maps through your .NET application. As always feedback is always welcome! Thanks for your patience with this release, and we hope the wait was worth it. The OpenMap Developers openmap at bbn.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Don Dietrick, BBN Technologies, dietrick at bbn.com 10 Moulton Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 617-873-3031 [fax]-2794 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jun 4 20:22:43 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 20:22:43 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] OpenMap 4.5 In-Reply-To: <16164275-7323-11D6-8541-000393033D5C@bbn.com> References: <20020529155151.GO23659@intevation.de> <16164275-7323-11D6-8541-000393033D5C@bbn.com> Message-ID: <20020604182243.GB29773@intevation.de> Don, thanks for the note and sending the openmap 4.5 announcement. I've updated the freegis.org entries. Haven't seen your FAQ update yet, though. :) Bernhard On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 12:42:38PM -0400, Don Dietrick wrote: > In terms of ready data formats, OpenMap supports: > The next version of OpenMap (4.5) will be released within the next > couple of days. Among the new features that may be of interest to list > members (topics I've noticed lately) are more image export options > (JPEG, GIF and SVG) and utilities to export OMGraphics to Shape files. > With a little coding, the MIF and VPF layer contents could be written > out to Shape files. All the pieces are there, they are just not wired > together. > > I'll update the OpenMap FAQ to list the support file formats. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Aarti From neteler at itc.it Thu Jun 6 16:06:43 2002 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:06:43 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Routing Engine In-Reply-To: <001201c20d61$bc109f70$d8011890@thakur>; from research@nucleusgis.com on Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:24:53PM +0530 References: <20020529155151.GO23659@intevation.de> <16164275-7323-11D6-8541-000393033D5C@bbn.com> <20020604182243.GB29773@intevation.de> <001201c20d61$bc109f70$d8011890@thakur> Message-ID: <20020606160643.M32452@itc.it> On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:24:53PM +0530, Research at NucleusGIS.com wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for a Routing Engine that can display, analyze, optimize > routes on shapefiles. Thanks. The new GRASS 5.1 which is work-in-progress will be able to do that: http://grass.itc.it/grass51/index.html Since GRASS5.1 is highly experimental I cannot recommend to use it now, but you can perform vector network analysis now (since one week). GRASS 5.1 also reads directly from SHAPE file, you just register it into the GRASS location with a script. Watch out on above page for "vector network analysis". Of course the development team would be glad to welcome more programmers for GRASS5.1! Best regards Markus Neteler From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Jun 6 17:38:46 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:38:46 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Routing Engine In-Reply-To: <20020606160643.M32452@itc.it> References: <20020529155151.GO23659@intevation.de> <16164275-7323-11D6-8541-000393033D5C@bbn.com> <20020604182243.GB29773@intevation.de> <001201c20d61$bc109f70$d8011890@thakur> <20020606160643.M32452@itc.it> Message-ID: <20020606153846.GD12873@intevation.de> Note that grass 5.1.x is the unstable GRASS development series. Like the linux kernel 5.2.x will be the next stable series having that capbilities. On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:06:43PM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 07:24:53PM +0530, Research at NucleusGIS.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking for a Routing Engine that can display, analyze, optimize > > routes on shapefiles. Thanks. > > The new GRASS 5.1 which is work-in-progress will be able to > do that: > > http://grass.itc.it/grass51/index.html > > Since GRASS5.1 is highly experimental I cannot recommend to use it > now, but you can perform vector network analysis now (since one week). > GRASS 5.1 also reads directly from SHAPE file, you just register it > into the GRASS location with a script. > > Watch out on above page for "vector network analysis". > > Of course the development team would be glad to welcome more > programmers for GRASS5.1! -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've had to order some DOQ mosaics from the state and its the only format they come in. ER Mapper seems to be really good about giving away tools, but horrid on making those tools cross-platform. Cheers, Jason From paul at toolscenter.org Sat Jun 15 10:03:36 2002 From: paul at toolscenter.org (Paul Selormey) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:03:36 +0900 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> Message-ID: <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> They are offering free SDK, which comes with samples for most platforms. Check the ER Mapper home page. Best regards, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Fillman" To: Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW > Greetings, > > By any chance is there an Open/Linux application that can read .ecw ER > Mapper files? I've had to order some DOQ mosaics from the state and its > the only format they come in. ER Mapper seems to be really good about > giving away tools, but horrid on making those tools cross-platform. > > Cheers, > Jason > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From rq at quiedeville.org Fri Jun 14 14:00:35 2002 From: rq at quiedeville.org (Rodolphe Quiedeville) Date: 14 Jun 2002 14:00:35 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Libre Software Meeting soon ! In-Reply-To: <20020524095636.GD4403@intevation.de> References: <20020524095636.GD4403@intevation.de> Message-ID: le Fri, 24 May 2002 11:56:36 +0200 Jan-Oliver Wagner a ?crit : > Hi Rodolphe, > > On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:31:32AM +0200, Rodolphe Quiedeville wrote: > > I suggest a GIS topic in the LSM 2002[1], wich was accpeted. does anyone > > of you are interested to make a conference/presentation ? > > > > LSM will attend in Bordeaux (France) 9-13 July, I hope to see this > > most of you during this manifestation. > > > > The organisation of this Free Software GIS topic need to have chairman > > and cochair, I'm ok to be the cochair to help organize it, but I need > > a chairman to help me, I'm interesting in GIS but sure there's lot of > > people knowing this subject better than me. > > I would love to see a FreeGIS track at LSM, but time is short and I > don't know whether we can find a number of talks to form a nice > session. > > The FreeGIS-Team probably could provide a chair and 1 or 2 presentations > (potential topics: FreeGIS/MapServer/GRASS/Free GIS Development > Perspectives/Free GIS as Commercial Service) if a session could be filled > with enough presentations. > > Are there any people out there who are interested in presenting certain > Free GIS Software at the LSM (or at other opportunities in Europe where we > might be able to form a FreeGIS track)? Hi all, The Libre Software Meeting will began now in one month (9 - 13 July) in Bordeaux, I have to know who of you are ok to do some presentation conference. Please send me an email with your name, firstname, subject of the presentation/conference, date of arrival in Bordeaux. I have to planned the conference to the end of the next week to book the rooms. Thanks a lot Regards, PS : please feel free to forward this mail to whom may be concerned. -- Rodolphe Quiedeville Travailleur Independant Specialiste Logiciel Libre Free Software Jobs ( http://fr.lolix.org/ ) GPG Key : http://rodolphe.quiedeville.org/gpg.txt From rq at quiedeville.org Sat Jun 15 14:07:34 2002 From: rq at quiedeville.org (Rodolphe Quiedeville) Date: 15 Jun 2002 14:07:34 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ANN: FreeGIS-CD 1.2.0 for GNU/Linux-Systems available In-Reply-To: <20020502091601.GA1086@intevation.de> References: <20020502091601.GA1086@intevation.de> Message-ID: le Thu, 2 May 2002 11:16:01 +0200 Jan-Oliver Wagner a ?crit : > Dear all, > > after a long time of testing, finally: > > FreeGIS-CD 1.2.0 for GNU/Linux-Systems available > > In its eighth edition (v1.2.0) the FreeGIS-CD continues to bring > geographic information procession capabilities to GNU/Linux > distributions. Congratulations to everybody made this possible. What do you think to make a presentation and demonstration of this CD at the Libre Software Meeting in Bordeaux 9-13 July ;-) Regards -- Rodolphe Quiedeville Travailleur Independant Specialiste Logiciel Libre Free Software Jobs ( http://fr.lolix.org/ ) GPG Key : http://rodolphe.quiedeville.org/gpg.txt From jan at intevation.de Sun Jun 16 19:50:54 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:50:54 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] copyright vmap1 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020528192612.022125f8@pop.free.fr> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020528192612.022125f8@pop.free.fr> Message-ID: <20020616175054.GA9445@intevation.de> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:27:38PM +0200, Benoit V?ler wrote: > does anyone know what copyright is applied to vmap1 files > available to : > > http://geoengine.nima.mil/ftpdir/archive/vpf_data/ the legal status of the VMAP data has been discussed a lot (also on this mailing list). Unfortunately, a fully transparent answer has not been found. If I understand the situation correctly, you can regard the data available from the above address as public domain. You should note that only a small part of the world is covered by those VMAPL1 files. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Jun 17 15:54:38 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:54:38 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW In-Reply-To: <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> Message-ID: <20020617135438.GD25946@intevation.de> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:03:36PM +0900, Paul Selormey wrote: > They are offering free SDK, which comes with samples for > most platforms. Check the ER Mapper home page. Is it Free Software? 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Bernhard On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 02:07:34PM +0200, Rodolphe Quiedeville wrote: > le Thu, 2 May 2002 11:16:01 +0200 > Jan-Oliver Wagner a ?crit : > > FreeGIS-CD 1.2.0 for GNU/Linux-Systems available > What do you think to make a presentation and demonstration of this CD > at the Libre Software Meeting in Bordeaux 9-13 July ;-) -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020617/29d247c1/attachment.bin From paul at toolscenter.org Mon Jun 17 16:20:28 2002 From: paul at toolscenter.org (Paul Selormey) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:20:28 +0900 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020617135438.GD25946@intevation.de> Message-ID: <000c01c2160a$232b4ec0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> The SDK is free, there is an ActiveX and Java versions too. Check the developer page - Products/SDKs. The only restriction is you can write up to 500 MB of image. There is no stated restriction to read size of the image. It is the same library being used in GDAL currently. Best regards, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Reiter" To: Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] ECW From frank.koormann at intevation.de Tue Jun 18 11:09:38 2002 From: frank.koormann at intevation.de (Frank Koormann) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:09:38 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Geo-Spatial Online Article on Free GIS Software Message-ID: <20020618090938.GC32132@intevation.de> Dear all, although already mentioned on the MapServer list, I would like to point you to an article in the Geo-Spatial Online Magazine, focussing on free GIS software: http://www.geospatial-online.com/geospatialsolutions/article/articleDetail.jsp?+id=19932&pageID=1 Regards, Frank -- Frank Koormann Professional Service around Free Software (http://intevation.net/) FreeGIS Project (http://freegis.org/) From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jun 18 19:55:20 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:55:20 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW In-Reply-To: <000c01c2160a$232b4ec0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020617135438.GD25946@intevation.de> <000c01c2160a$232b4ec0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> Message-ID: <20020618175520.GE5275@intevation.de> Paul, I've rechecked the license of the ER mapper SDKs in one case. Downloading the ECWSDK245_Solaris.tar.gz I've learned that it does not come with full source code and the license.txt does not grant the freedoms to use, study, adapt, copy and publish the software. E.g.: For conditions, requirements and fees associated with redistribution, installation or use in "Server Products" or "SDK Products" contact Earth Resource Mapping. It is non-free software coming with a restricted gratis license. I suspect the other ER mapper downloads to also be proprietory. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Bernhard On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:20:28PM +0900, Paul Selormey wrote: > The SDK is free, there is an ActiveX and Java versions too. > Check the developer page - Products/SDKs. > The only restriction is you can write up to 500 MB of image. There is no > stated restriction to read size of the image. > It is the same library being used in GDAL currently. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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E.g.: > > For conditions, requirements and fees associated > with redistribution, installation or use in "Server Products" or > "SDK Products" contact Earth Resource Mapping. > > It is non-free software coming with a restricted gratis license. > I suspect the other ER mapper downloads to also be proprietory. > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html > Bernhard Hmm, that's rather annoying. Not to be "sneaky", but how hard would it be to reverse engineer the format? Of course I'd rather use open formats, but since the data I require is from a state agency that has standardized on ER Mapper files, it seems I have little choice. Other projects like SAMBA have managed to implement others' proprietary formats in open source w/o getting into trouble.... and it seems to me that if you provide source that can be downloaded for free, you can't really enforce any license that says no one can study the code and make their own implementation, as long as no original code is used. But I'm no legal specialist. In the immediate future, there may be one simple solution for my situation. The agency in mind does offer downloadable data in MrSid format. Another somewhat proprietary format, but at least there are readers avaiable to the user at no cost. The issue is that I want to make this data easily presentable to the people at my place of work who need it. I'm fairly new to this sort of data, so maybe someone here could help me out. I'd like to make some sort of overview of the county in question that will allow the user to click on an area and have the viewer load the correct MrSid quad. Is this possible? Thanks for all the help, Jason -- Jason Fillman Ranger Services Inc. http://www.rangerserv.com Office: (956) 585-1962 Fax: (956) 581-1236 ------------------------------------------------------------ From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jun 18 21:20:05 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:20:05 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW In-Reply-To: <1024427353.20575.46.camel@LoneStar> References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020617135438.GD25946@intevation.de> <000c01c2160a$232b4ec0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020618175520.GE5275@intevation.de> <1024427353.20575.46.camel@LoneStar> Message-ID: <20020618192005.GI6795@intevation.de> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 02:08:44PM -0500, Jason Fillman wrote: > On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 12:55, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > I've rechecked the license of the ER mapper SDKs in one case. > > Downloading the ECWSDK245_Solaris.tar.gz > > It is non-free software coming with a restricted gratis license. > > I suspect the other ER mapper downloads to also be proprietory. > Hmm, that's rather annoying. Not to be "sneaky", but how hard would it > be to reverse engineer the format? I don't know. > and it seems to me that if you provide source that can be downloaded > for free, you can't really enforce any license that says no one > can study the code and make their own implementation, > as long as no original code is used. You could claim a copyright violation in this case which probably would be nasty to fight. Note that the archive above did not include the full source code. Just examples code which I did'nt examine any further. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020618/da385df1/attachment.bin From roger at sylvanmaps.com Tue Jun 18 21:30:11 2002 From: roger at sylvanmaps.com (Roger Bedell) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:30:11 -0600 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K In-Reply-To: <1024427353.20575.46.camel@LoneStar> Message-ID: <009301c216fe$8fe6b140$655b88cc@vaio> Both Lizardtech (MrSID) and ErMapper have patents on their compression technology. MrSIDs patents were from LANL, ErMapper did their own. They both use Wavelet compression technology. Another technology that no one uses (but should!) is Jpeg2000 which is an open format using wavelet compression. I've done some trials using it which show similar compression results to the others. There are some open source implementations of Jpeg2K as well. Roger Bedell, President, Sylvan Ascent Inc. roger at sylvanmaps.com www.sylvanmaps.com www.topodepot.com 505-758-7712 -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-admin at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-admin at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Jason Fillman Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:09 PM To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] ECW On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 12:55, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > Paul, > > I've rechecked the license of the ER mapper SDKs in one case. > Downloading the ECWSDK245_Solaris.tar.gz > I've learned that it does not come with full source code > and the license.txt does not grant the freedoms to use, study, > adapt, copy and publish the software. E.g.: > > For conditions, requirements and fees associated > with redistribution, installation or use in "Server Products" or > "SDK Products" contact Earth Resource Mapping. > > It is non-free software coming with a restricted gratis license. > I suspect the other ER mapper downloads to also be proprietory. > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html > Bernhard Hmm, that's rather annoying. Not to be "sneaky", but how hard would it be to reverse engineer the format? Of course I'd rather use open formats, but since the data I require is from a state agency that has standardized on ER Mapper files, it seems I have little choice. Other projects like SAMBA have managed to implement others' proprietary formats in open source w/o getting into trouble.... and it seems to me that if you provide source that can be downloaded for free, you can't really enforce any license that says no one can study the code and make their own implementation, as long as no original code is used. But I'm no legal specialist. In the immediate future, there may be one simple solution for my situation. The agency in mind does offer downloadable data in MrSid format. Another somewhat proprietary format, but at least there are readers avaiable to the user at no cost. The issue is that I want to make this data easily presentable to the people at my place of work who need it. I'm fairly new to this sort of data, so maybe someone here could help me out. I'd like to make some sort of overview of the county in question that will allow the user to click on an area and have the viewer load the correct MrSid quad. Is this possible? Thanks for all the help, Jason -- Jason Fillman Ranger Services Inc. http://www.rangerserv.com Office: (956) 585-1962 Fax: (956) 581-1236 ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've done some trials using it which show similar > compression results to the others. There are some open source > implementations of Jpeg2K as well. I've heard that jpeg2000 is also patent encumbered. http://www.advogato.org/article/327.html This would mean unless the patent is licensed to everybody unlimited without royalties (basically completely rendering the patent useless) Free Software implementations cannot exist. You always would have restriction on the freedom to use the software for all purposes. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Roger Bedell, President, Sylvan Ascent Inc. roger at sylvanmaps.com www.sylvanmaps.com www.topodepot.com 505-758-7712 -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-admin at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-admin at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:43 PM To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:30:11PM -0600, Roger Bedell wrote: > Both Lizardtech (MrSID) and ErMapper have patents on their compression > technology. MrSIDs patents were from LANL, ErMapper did their own. They > both use Wavelet compression technology. Another technology that no one > uses (but should!) is Jpeg2000 which is an open format using wavelet > compression. I've done some trials using it which show similar > compression results to the others. There are some open source > implementations of Jpeg2K as well. I've heard that jpeg2000 is also patent encumbered. http://www.advogato.org/article/327.html This would mean unless the patent is licensed to everybody unlimited without royalties (basically completely rendering the patent useless) Free Software implementations cannot exist. You always would have restriction on the freedom to use the software for all purposes. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think JPEG2K has a better chance than these to become open source given the pressures on the standard committee to not become another GIF. Roger Bedell, President, Sylvan Ascent Inc. roger at sylvanmaps.com www.sylvanmaps.com www.topodepot.com 505-758-7712 -----Original Message----- From: freegis-list-admin at intevation.de [mailto:freegis-list-admin at intevation.de] On Behalf Of Bernhard Reiter Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:43 PM To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:30:11PM -0600, Roger Bedell wrote: > Both Lizardtech (MrSID) and ErMapper have patents on their compression > technology. MrSIDs patents were from LANL, ErMapper did their own. They > both use Wavelet compression technology. Another technology that no one > uses (but should!) is Jpeg2000 which is an open format using wavelet > compression. I've done some trials using it which show similar > compression results to the others. There are some open source > implementations of Jpeg2K as well. I've heard that jpeg2000 is also patent encumbered. http://www.advogato.org/article/327.html This would mean unless the patent is licensed to everybody unlimited without royalties (basically completely rendering the patent useless) Free Software implementations cannot exist. You always would have restriction on the freedom to use the software for all purposes. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Downloading the ECWSDK245_Solaris.tar.gz I've learned that it does not come with full source code and the license.txt does not grant the freedoms to use, study, adapt, copy and publish the software. E.g.: For conditions, requirements and fees associated with redistribution, installation or use in "Server Products" or "SDK Products" contact Earth Resource Mapping. It is non-free software coming with a restricted gratis license. I suspect the other ER mapper downloads to also be proprietory From jan at intevation.de Wed Jun 19 08:56:18 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:56:18 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ECW In-Reply-To: <002401c21726$b578e3b0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> References: <1024074930.13728.0.camel@LoneStar> <001701c21443$281b7e50$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020617135438.GD25946@intevation.de> <000c01c2160a$232b4ec0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> <20020618175520.GE5275@intevation.de> <002401c21726$b578e3b0$700201c0@MAPQUEST.local> Message-ID: <20020619065618.GB383@intevation.de> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:17:31AM +0900, Paul Selormey wrote: > Well, to me it is free software. Being free does not necessarily mean access > to source codes. > Moreover, it is up to the one requiring this support to decide. well, with a gratis binary you are not necessarily free to use it for any purpose (this may be restricted by the license for this gratis-package). More certainly you are not free to learn from the code (since it is not given to you) or extend/reuse the code to build other tools or make the present one better. FreeGIS.org undestands Free Software as defined by the FSF. You can read more on this at http://freegis.org/about.en.html to learn about the terms, definitions and philosophy regarding what we undestand by Free Software. However, of course everyone has the freedom to use proprietary software if he or she wishes so :-) Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From bernhard at intevation.de Wed Jun 19 11:58:08 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:58:08 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K In-Reply-To: <00b801c2170c$937eead0$655b88cc@vaio> References: <20020618194324.GL6795@intevation.de> <00b801c2170c$937eead0$655b88cc@vaio> Message-ID: <20020619095808.GG12475@intevation.de> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:10:30PM -0600, Roger Bedell wrote: > After reading some posts, it looks like this is a hot topic with the > JPEG2000 people as well. Submarine patents, etc. However, since the > Unisys burn with GIF, everyone knows no developer in their right mind > would touch a still image format that has patents on it. However, GIS > people obviously have no such compunction ie, ErMapper, MrSID etc. are > the defacto GIS standards for compressed imagery - should we stand by > and take this? They are proprietory "standards" and the Free Software community has to avoid them. The long term perspective will be to develop a format with similiar qualities being unencumbered by patents. It is hard work. The audio people managed to do this with the ogg format. Another problem with the licensing of patents is that the royality free license has to be unlimited. There must be no possibility to terminate it. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From wesley at felter.org Wed Jun 19 03:22:55 2002 From: wesley at felter.org (Wes Felter) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:22:55 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K In-Reply-To: <00a901c21703$39d77f00$655b88cc@vaio> Message-ID: Here's the scoop on JPEG 2000 patents straight from the committee: "In the case of technology submitted for consideration by JPEG for incorporation in Part 1 of FCD 15444 Version 1.0 (the document available for download), the JPEG committee understand that the individual members concerned will make available licenses to use this IPR, on a royalty and fee free basis, under specified conditions which may apply only to conforming implementations of this standard." http://www.jpeg.org/FCD15444-1.htm Wes Felter - wesley at felter.org - http://felter.org/wesley/ From bernhard at intevation.de Wed Jun 19 17:58:00 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:58:00 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: ECW and MrSID and JPEG2K In-Reply-To: References: <00a901c21703$39d77f00$655b88cc@vaio> Message-ID: <20020619155800.GI14152@intevation.de> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:22:55PM -0500, Wes Felter wrote: > Here's the scoop on JPEG 2000 patents straight from the committee: > > "In the case of technology submitted for consideration by JPEG for > incorporation in Part 1 of FCD 15444 Version 1.0 (the document available for > download), the JPEG committee understand that the individual members > concerned will make available licenses to use this IPR, on a royalty and fee > free basis, under specified conditions which may apply only to conforming > implementations of this standard." > > http://www.jpeg.org/FCD15444-1.htm The restriction of "conforming implementations" renders it unusable for Free Software as you loose the freedom to study the program, learn how it works and use the knowledge. An updated specification would force you to change your independent implementation. You could not use any source code implementing this for other purposes. This effectively cuts the freedom to innovate and build your innovation on the existing Free Software. Furthermore there does not seem to be precautions that the licenses cannot be terminated or changed later. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020619/fefe95ee/attachment.bin From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Wed Jun 19 23:09:58 2002 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:09:58 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] some FreeGIS updates. Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530427C333@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Hi Jan, listers; here are a couple of updates for the FreeGIS site. PROJECTS: Community Mapping Network http://shim.bc.ca/ "What is the CMN Project Directory? The purpose of the Community Mapping Network Project Directory is to make valuable information about community mapping projects around the world available to both local and international communities. For each project the geographic location, and in some cases specific features of the project sites are shown on an interactive global atlas. A detailed description about each project is also available that provides the projects' goals, methods, and status. Each project in the atlas has an associated descriptive report that includes important contact information and organization name. Viewers are encouraged to contact the organization to ask questions about the projects or to find out how they can get involved. Since many of the community mapping projects are ongoing, information found in this directory is constantly being updated." -the intended scope of the project is global, but at the moment it seems the only one which is well developed is for British Columbia, Canada (the link given above) -is built on proprietary closed-source technologies (Autodesk MapGuide), however the interesting part, for me anyway, is the ability of users to add their own geographic data to the database -there is a lot of money and resources involved in this, it really is unfortunate they chose a closed technology. Mayhap with public pressure they can be at least persuade to conform to the OpenGIS Specification or something. -even if the technology stays closed, the value of the public database is great. -------------------- Free Geospatial Data in Canada Homepage: http://www.freedata.ca/ Please update the description to something like: This site is dedicated to the issue of public access to government geospatial data across Canada. It is a place to discuss, issues, educate, coordinate and encourage change. Promotes the idea of free distribution of canadian governmental geographic data. Free in this case basically means at no charge though more comments are being made on the importance of "liberty" as well as "no charge". -------------------- SOFTWARE: Virtual Terrain Project (VTP) http://vterrain.org/ There have been a lot of changes since the last FreeGIS update (Oct-2001). The most interesting recent changes (May and June 2002) are: * fixes to the USGS DEM reader to support all three varieties * greatly improved support for international Datums * support for Rottger's CLOD algorithm. This is an exciting new option which is much faster than any previous implementation. * import buildings (structure layers) from SDTS-DLG "Manmade features" files. * added support for reading MicroDEM format DEM files. * support in VTBuilder for importing from compressed files. Now when you get a SDTS file which is tar'd and gzip'd, you don't have to uncompress it and hunt for the *CATD.DDF file. Just drag and drop the .tar.gz file(s) right into VTBuilder! * upgraded to GDAL version 1.1.7 and libpng 1.2.2 http://vterrain.org/Implementation/changes.html cheers, -- Matt Wilkie -------------------------------------------- Geographic Information Section, Information Management and Technology, Yukon Department of Environment -------------------------------------------- From tklistaddr at keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu Thu Jun 20 20:09:16 2002 From: tklistaddr at keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu (Timothy H. Keitt) Date: 20 Jun 2002 14:09:16 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] R bindings for GDAL Message-ID: <1024596556.21385.23.camel@keittlab-6> I have an experimental R package that wraps Frank Warmerdam's Geographic Data Abstraction Library. GDAL lets you read and write a variety of raster image formats. Details are at http://keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu/R/GDAL/ I haven't yet written bindings for the OGR vector bits. That will likely wait until I have a need to read vector shape files. Cheers, Tim From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Thu Jun 20 20:38:56 2002 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 20 Jun 2002 11:38:56 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] R bindings for GDAL In-Reply-To: <1024596556.21385.23.camel@keittlab-6> References: <1024596556.21385.23.camel@keittlab-6> Message-ID: <1024598336.8792.9.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Beautiful, beautiful! I'm starting to think that R (or its derivative Omega) is the reasonable place for the analysis of spatial data so you have: GIS / \ R modeling software (analysis) (spatial modeling) in a loose affiliation but with each picking up on the data types of the other. look forward to learning this library, thanks for the work, adrian On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 11:09, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > I have an experimental R package that wraps Frank Warmerdam's Geographic > Data Abstraction Library. GDAL lets you read and write a variety of > raster image formats. Details are at > > http://keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu/R/GDAL/ > > I haven't yet written bindings for the OGR vector bits. That will likely > wait until I have a need to read vector shape files. > > Cheers, > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From jan at intevation.de Fri Jun 21 09:24:05 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:24:05 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: some FreeGIS updates. In-Reply-To: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530427C333@raptor.gov.yk.ca> References: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530427C333@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Message-ID: <20020621072405.GA1081@intevation.de> Hi Matt, On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:09:58PM -0700, Matt.Wilkie wrote: > Hi Jan, listers; here are a couple of updates for the FreeGIS site. first of all, thank you very much for the help! > PROJECTS: > > Community Mapping Network > http://shim.bc.ca/ I didn't add this one to FreeGIS as it is all over too much focused on proprietary products. > Free Geospatial Data in Canada > Homepage: http://www.freedata.ca/ I have updated the desctiption accordingly. > SOFTWARE: > > Virtual Terrain Project (VTP) > http://vterrain.org/ > > There have been a lot of changes since the last FreeGIS update (Oct-2001). > The most interesting recent changes (May and June 2002) are: VTP does not follow a usual release scheme with version numbers etc. It is therefore hard to decide for FreeGIS when to update information. However, your email was a good reminder to update :-) Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From chagirard at yahoo.com Fri Jun 21 10:31:47 2002 From: chagirard at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?girard=20charlotte?=) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:31:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL file Message-ID: <20020621083147.80402.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> I would like to set the colors of a bil file. I looked at the specifications of the Band Interleaved by Line format but I don't understand how to do. Does anybody can help me ? Thanks ! ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From bernhard at intevation.de Fri Jun 21 14:53:11 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:53:11 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] BIL file In-Reply-To: <20020621083147.80402.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020621083147.80402.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020621125311.GF554@intevation.de> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 10:31:47AM +0200, girard charlotte wrote: > I would like to set the colors of a bil file. I looked > at the specifications of the Band Interleaved by Line > format but I don't understand how to do. Does anybody > can help me ? One band means you have one value per data point. BIL just is a method to save several bands in one file. To my knowledge there is no standard on how a color scheme can also be part of such a file. The interpreting application will have to choose the colors and probably save them in a custom header or custom file. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020621/03c3c101/attachment.bin From gaz at tkgeomap.org Mon Jun 24 21:25:15 2002 From: gaz at tkgeomap.org (gaz) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:25:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] Tkgeomap 1.7 released In-Reply-To: <20020619103127.GF5751@intevation.de> Message-ID: Fellow geographers, cartographers, geeks! I just uploaded version 1.7 of Tkgeomap - my set of extensions to the Tcl/Tk scripting language for manipulating and displaying geographic data. Complete details are at http://www.tkgeomap.org. Feedback is always welcome. Gordon From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jun 25 01:14:59 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 01:14:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tkgeomap 1.7 released In-Reply-To: References: <20020619103127.GF5751@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20020624231459.GE2621@intevation.de> On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 02:25:15PM -0500, gaz wrote: > I just uploaded version 1.7 of Tkgeomap Thanks for the notification. I've updated the FreeGIS database. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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M$ is the question! No is the answer -- Eric Naggum From sfkeller at hsr.ch Thu Jun 27 12:29:51 2002 From: sfkeller at hsr.ch (Stefan Keller) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:29:51 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Freegis-list digest, Vol 1 #398 - 1 msg References: <20020627100002.8033.77612.Mailman@doto.intevation.de> Message-ID: <3D1AE91F.3A6B9686@hsr.ch> > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:07:42 +0200 > From: Alexander Pucher > To: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: [Freegis-list] GML docs > > Hi, > > can somebody point me to some literature about GML, besides the > 'standard' OGC docs (i.e the Implementation Specification of GML 2.0) > > Thanx > alex I'd suggest + definitively first to look at the member list of OGC (if you are a member :-< ); + then perhaps http://www.galdosinc.com/, because it is hosted by a GML author and evangelist; + and finally look perhaps at implementations, like JaGo (Java) or MapServer (C) -> see freegis.org. But all depends: + Which version do you mean? GML is a running target... the hottest version in discussion now is the one which is finally model-based and potentially ISO compatible: Version 4 (Remark: model-based means based on UML (mandataory) with XML schema generation rules, see www.omg.org/mda). + As you may know, GML docs are "copyrighted" and potentially "hold back" - to the public - for at most 6 months according to the OGC rules. BTW.: GML 4 will be a good thing (though a bit overloaded)! Based on our experiences since the 90's with UML and XML alike technologies, like INTERLIS (www.interlis.ch), we tried to promote this kind of model-based technology since years. -- Prof. Stefan F. Keller ______________________________________________________________________ Hochschule fuer Technik Rapperswil (HSR) - FH Ostschweiz University of Applied Sciences Rapperswil (UASR) - Eastern Switzerland int>e>gis - Center fuer integrierte Geo-Informationssysteme int>e>gis - Center for integrated geographic information systems ______________________________________________________________________ www.integis.ch From bernhard at intevation.de Fri Jun 28 15:02:03 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:02:03 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Found IVICS and how to help FreeGIS Message-ID: <20020628130203.GD2999@intevation.de> Just discovered Interactive Visualizer and Image Classifier for Satellites (IVICS) http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/ivics/ Originally a visualization tool to facilitate selection of training samples from satellite images. It has evolved into a general purpose visualization system which supports several common satellite and remote sensing data formats. The Generalized Satellite Format (GSF) was developed to support IVICS. Both IVICS and GSF are available under the GNU General Public Licence (GPL). The reminds me: If you discover packages that are not on freegis.org yet, please let us know. We also appreciate contributions which help us to further classify the entries we have and improve the describing texts. All this can savely posted here. In case you think the audience is too broad, we also have a mailinglist which is more about how the infrastrucre of the FreeGIS project, which you could use. http://freegis.org/mailman/listinfo/team Another thing everybody can do to help Free Software and GIS is: Suggest links between projects to improve the knowledge space. Many project pages should have links to related projects and overview sites (like freegis.org in this case). Writing a friendly email often reveals that the maintainers of the project were not aware of the suggested links. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020628/0cd340de/attachment.bin