From jan at intevation.de Fri Feb 1 18:22:24 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:22:24 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on air Message-ID: <20020201172224.GA28942@intevation.de> Hi, just some more visibility of FreeGIS. Frank Koormann will give a live-interview to a german radio station next monday, 4-Feb-2002 (sorry, in german only). http://www.wdr5.de/leonardo/wochenvorschau.phtml |Das FreeGIS Projekt |Open Source Codes bei geographischen Informationssystemen | |Geographische Informationssysteme sind Geo-Datenbanken: Fachdaten, |topografische Karten, Luft- und Satellitenbilder und andere raumbezogene |Informationen werden im Computer verfu"gbar. Sie sind wichtig fu"r |Planer, spielen zunehmend aber auch im Alltag eine Rolle, zum Beispiel |beim Navigationssystem im Auto. Anla"sslich der Tagung GISnet in |Offenbach fragt Leonardo, wem die Geodaten geho"ren sollen und welche |Chancen freie Software - die es als Free GIS und GRASS bereits gibt - |dabei spielt. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From alet at unice.fr Mon Feb 4 13:35:55 2002 From: alet at unice.fr (Jerome Alet) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:35:55 +0100 (MET) Subject: [Freegis-list] [ANN] PDFMap 1.50 is out Message-ID: Hi, I'm pleased to announce the availability of PDFMap v1.50. PDFMap is a GPLed Python module and command line tool which intensively uses the ReportLab toolkit (http://www.reportlab.com) to allow people to create high quality maps in the PDF format. Objects can be represented on maps using different predefined shapes in user defined colors, or images, and are correctly scaled and oriented according to each object's dimensions and orientation wrt the North. Each object can be made clickable, at least in Adobe's Acrobat Reader, allowing you to make back-links to any web enabled database. The new version changes are : - PDFMap now works as a CGI script too, allowing you to use it as a simple map server. A default HTML form is included, adapt it to your own needs. - Image shapes can now be downloaded from the Net at runtime : just put double-quoted urls in the configuration file to use this feature. - The complete module documentation, generated with HappyDoc, is now included. - Margins can now be set in centimeters (default), inches, or points. - a .bat script is now included for Windows users. It was successfully tested against Win98 + ReportLab Demo 1.11 You can download PDFMap or see some samples and screenshots, from : http://pdfmap.sourceforge.net/ A mailing list and the CVS tree are available from : http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfmap/ Commercial support is available from : contact at librelogiciel.com (website is currently down for heavy maintainance but email works) Comments are very welcome. Thank you for reading. Jerome Alet - alet at unice.fr From pedro at inovagis.org Mon Feb 4 16:20:21 2002 From: pedro at inovagis.org (Pedro Pereira Goncalves) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:20:21 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Source GIS WebServices Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020204144618.01b3b160@pop.si.fct.unl.pt> Hi All, We're starting the development of some open source web services using delphi 6 (compatible with Linux's Kylix) The idea is to grab the OGC basic features and GML 2 specs and define basic types that will be available for remote computers using SOAP. This web service will work as a translation service between GML and the basic features directly accessible from your programming language. In practical terms you are able to do something like (in this example Pascal is used but you could do it in JAVA, C#, VB, etc. with minor changes): procedure TForm1.Button3Click(Sender: TObject); var pp:TGeoAbstract; XStr:WideString; begin pp:=TGeoBOX.Create; (pp as TGeoBOX).MaxX:=100; (pp as TGeoBOX).MinX:=0; (pp as TGeoBOX).MaxY:=100; (pp as TGeoBOX).MinY:=0; (pp as TGeoBOX).SRS:='ESPG:4326'; // call to a remote SOAP service using HTTP xStr:=(HTTPRIO1 as IGIServerTypesFactory).CreateGML(pp,'gml'); { and the xStr return will in fact be GML 2.0 like 0 0 100 100 } end; The other way around works the same procedure TForm1.Button6Click(Sender: TObject); var xStr:WideString; bb:TGeoBox; begin Xstr:='00100100'; // call to a remote SOAP service using HTTP bb:=(HTTPRIO1 as IGIServerTypesFactory).GMLCreateGeoBOX(xStr,'gml'); { this will return a TGeoBox type that is defined by TGeoBOX = class(TGeoAbstract) private FMaxX: Double; FMaxY: Double; FMinX: Double; FMinY: Double; published property MaxX: Double read FMaxX write FMaxX; property MaxY: Double read FMaxY write FMaxY; property MinX: Double read FMinX write FMinX; property MinY: Double read FMinY write FMinY; end; } end; For the moment I've developed the interfaces for Points, BOX, Lines, Rings and Polygons Before releasing these web services as open source we'd like to know if anyone on this list is working on this or finds this useful or even if is available for comments and testing. all the best Pedro Pedro ------------------------------------------ Pedro Pereira Goncalves inovaGIS Project - http://www.inovagis.org/ From alex.weidauer at huckfinn.de Tue Feb 5 19:37:32 2002 From: alex.weidauer at huckfinn.de (Alexander Weidauer) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 19:37:32 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Open Source GIS in Delphi ? Message-ID: <3C60266C.2000807@huckfinn.de> Hi Folks, Is there an OpenSource Geo Information System (GIS) written in Delphi or a existing project to realize this? Bye Alex From jidanni at yam.com.tw Wed Feb 6 02:01:55 2002 From: jidanni at yam.com.tw (Dan Jacobson) Date: 06 Feb 2002 09:01:55 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] sci.geo.cartography Call For Votes pointer In-Reply-To: <20020205110102.30060139C7@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: The proposal and Call For Votes for newsgroup sci.geo.cartography can be seen on news:news.announce.newgroups or its archive, http://www.uvv.org/nan.html. Voting ends February 25, 2002. sci.geo.cartography Maps, grids, coordinates, projections, datums -- http://www.geocities.com/jidanni/ Taiwan(04)25854780 From jidanni at yam.com.tw Wed Feb 6 05:34:13 2002 From: jidanni at yam.com.tw (Dan Jacobson) Date: 06 Feb 2002 12:34:13 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] idea: NNTP server for all free GIS groups In-Reply-To: <20020204103824.GB21283@intevation.de> Message-ID: Idea: NNTP server for all free GIS groups... a read-only one-way server, that would keep available the latest discussions of GRASS, GMT, etc. lists. Posters would still have to post via the traditional means. This would help those of use dependent on flaky POP mailboxes and modems, etc. The natural candidate to host these NNTP groups would be the FreeGIS guys in Germany. [what a coincidence, their name just matches the scope of my proposal :-) ] >>>>> "B" == Bernhard Reiter writes: B> On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 06:10:20AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> >>>>> "B" == Bernhard Reiter writes: B> As long as there is only one node nntp has not that many advantages. >> you could serve the GMT, PROJ, ... lots of lists too! B> True, though those projects have their own lists. B> It is not the number of lists, but the number of nntp-nodes in B> a newsserver network that really let the nntp-advantages come out. 8) well, let's try one node for starters anyway... and the lucky node provider is ....[drum-roll]... you! (FreeGIS) :-) B> It probably will only be useful if we get even more email. B> If you want to help, we could try to find out how to take control of B> the deserted usenet *grass* newsgroups. >> >> Markus Neteler was trying to figure how to do that too... B> Yes, but AFAIK he did not succeed yet. Markus> that's right - the lack of time is eminent. Markus> Dan, maybe you can find out if more people are interested in that. Markus> To re-feed the info.grass.* seems to be non-trivial, at least I Markus> do not have the slightest idea how to reactivate it. instead of reactivating it, lets just start with a single NNTP server serving, oh 5 or 6 Free GIS related lists. That way we could also avoid any "bad karma" [stale configuration messes] that might occur by using the old name... >> Anyway, looking at >> news2.sinica.edu.tw >> tin.le.org >> tlug.linux.org.tw >> tlug.sinica.edu.tw >> one can see how helpful it is... B> It is good that you've let us know that you would find it useful. B> If we find time or get a lot more requests, we will install B> an nntp-Server for GRASS in the future. B> Bernhard mmm... another option is to simply ask, say, one of the above existing servers to add the Free GIS related groups... but, well, if you FreeGIS guys did it, ... well. it might be easier to maintain, as you are more close to the subject, and there are just a few groups... plus you can gain valuable experience :-) and add an additional dimension the FreeGIS project :-) [i.e. I also have not the slightest idea how to do it... so I leave it in the hands of the Professionals :-)] B> -- B> Professional Service for Free Software (intevation.net) B> The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) B> Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) B> FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org) By the way. I hope the subscription options to the lists to be involved allow the mode: "I'm subscribed, but don't want to get the list by email ['cause I use NNTP]... but still reserving my right to post occasionally [by e-mail]", for the case of "only members can post". CC: grasslist at baylor.edu,gmthelp at soest.hawaii.edu -- http://www.geocities.com/jidanni/ Taiwan(04)25854780 From stelpstra at qps.nl Wed Feb 6 09:21:55 2002 From: stelpstra at qps.nl (Stelpstra, David) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:21:55 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] idea: NNTP server for all free GIS groups Message-ID: <791C3029BBDE684E858C0A926FBB5D05D2E1@QPS3-MAIL.qps.nl> I am happy with a mailing list. For me NNTP is more flaky. To make it worse at my work, the fire wall does not pass NNTP at all. Please keep the lists. Regards David. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Jacobson [SMTP:jidanni at yam.com.tw] > Sent: Wednesday, 06 February, 2002 05:34 > To: > Subject: [Freegis-list] idea: NNTP server for all free GIS groups > > Idea: NNTP server for all free GIS groups... > a read-only one-way server, that would keep available the latest > discussions of GRASS, GMT, etc. lists. Posters would still have to > post via the traditional means. > > This would help those of use dependent on flaky POP mailboxes and > modems, etc. > 8< 8< From jidanni at yahoo.com.tw Mon Feb 11 07:58:39 2002 From: jidanni at yahoo.com.tw (Dan Jacobson) Date: 11 Feb 2002 14:58:39 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] mail to news for free gis In-Reply-To: <20020206110102.69DC313A1E@lists.intevation.de> References: <20020206110102.69DC313A1E@lists.intevation.de> Message-ID: d> From: "Stelpstra, David" d> I am happy with a mailing list. For me NNTP is more flaky. To make d> it worse at my work, the fire wall does not pass NNTP at d> all. Please keep the lists. Don't worry. It would be an additional choice, not a replacement. And, if they wanted to post, they would still do so by mail. By the way, http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/code/mail2news/ I believe is all the software needed. -- http://www.geocities.com/jidanni/ Taiwan(04)25854780 From john2 at sentieon.com Thu Feb 14 20:37:36 2002 From: john2 at sentieon.com (John) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:37:36 -0600 Subject: [Freegis-list] A Question.... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020214132402.00b41468@netmail.home.com> Hello - FreeGIS Community. I am new to GIS, in fact this is my first attempt to research the subject. I know newbies can be a source of irritation to the experienced and long time members of a community so I will limit my posting to 3 statements and 1 question: 1. I have done some preliminary research and I understand that Geocoding is essentially the process of matching records in two databases: your address database (without map position information) and a reference street map or other "address dictionary" (with known map position information). I believe that this is basically accomplished by appending the Lat and Long of the address to the record entry. 2. I have a list of US Street addresses that I want to Geocode to establish if they lie within certain geographic boundaries. I want to use some of the US Census Bureaus Geographic Boundary files/Definitions (Census Block Group) as the Boundaries for this list of addresses. 3. I have looked at various "Open Source" or free applications and I have not really been able to discern if any of these tools have the functionality I am seeking. Question: Can anyone please direct me to a Free or Open Source application that will allow me to Geocode the street addresses I have - and then let me use the Census data to determine what Census Block Group the address belongs in? Thank you for your time and assistance. Best Personal Regards, John Testini From Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM Fri Feb 15 11:04:35 2002 From: Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM (Liam Castagna) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:04:35 -0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] [Freegis-list] Message-ID: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC950174BB@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> Can anybody help me with this small problem? I've go a supply of data from OS in .NTF format, is there a freeware product that will convert these into .TAB (MapInfo). cheers Liam Castagna, GIS Consultant Groundsure Limited Suite 14, Level 4 New England House New England Street Brighton BN1 4GH Tel: +44 (0)1273 819500 Fax: +44 (0)1273 819550 liam at groundsure.com www.groundsure.com This e-mail is private and confidential. Access by or disclosure to anyone other than the intended recipient for any reason other than the business purpose for which the message is intended, is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not act or omit to take any action based on this message. This e-mail and any views or opinions contained in it are subject to any terms and conditions agreed between Groundsure Limited and the recipient. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail. As Groundsure Limited cannot accept responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments we recommend that you subject these to your virus checking procedures prior to use. From frank.koormann at intevation.de Fri Feb 15 11:13:47 2002 From: frank.koormann at intevation.de (Frank Koormann) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:13:47 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] [Freegis-list] In-Reply-To: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC950174BB@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> References: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC950174BB@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> Message-ID: <20020215101347.GA29487@intevation.de> Liam, * Liam Castagna (Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM) [020215 11:07]: > Can anybody help me with this small problem? I've go a supply of data > from OS in .NTF format, is there a freeware product that will convert > these into .TAB (MapInfo). OGR is Free Software that can handle UK NTF and MapInfo TAB. http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/opengis/ http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/ntf/ Regards, Frank -- Frank Koormann Professional Service around Free Software (http://intevation.net/) FreeGIS Project (http://freegis.org/) From frank.koormann at intevation.de Mon Feb 18 10:55:39 2002 From: frank.koormann at intevation.de (Frank Koormann) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:55:39 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] New Entry: e00pg Message-ID: <20020218095539.GA26343@intevation.de> Dear all, recently added e00pg to FreeGIS: http://e00pg.sourceforge.net/ e00pg is a tool for converting ESRI-E00 coverages into PostgreSQL/PostGIS sql instructions. Regards, Frank -- Frank Koormann Professional Service around Free Software (http://intevation.net/) FreeGIS Project (http://freegis.org/) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020218/f5ccd1b4/attachment.bin From jan at intevation.de Mon Feb 18 20:50:18 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:50:18 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] A Question.... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020214132402.00b41468@netmail.home.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020214132402.00b41468@netmail.home.com> Message-ID: <20020218195018.GA6727@intevation.de> On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 01:37:36PM -0600, John wrote: > Question: Can anyone please direct me to a Free or Open Source application > that will allow me to Geocode the street addresses I have - and then let me > use the Census data to determine what Census Block Group the address > belongs in? I am not familiar with the US Census Tiger data, but the they should one way or another find their way into a database (perhaps PostgreSQL/PostGIS works for this). Now, depending on the strucuture and information of the Tiger data, you should be able to send adequate queries. Has anyone of the US guys ever tried this? Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From pramsey at refractions.net Mon Feb 18 21:07:53 2002 From: pramsey at refractions.net (Paul Ramsey) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:07:53 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] A Question.... References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020214132402.00b41468@netmail.home.com> <20020218195018.GA6727@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3C715F19.4148AFB3@refractions.net> I am not aware of any OSS geocoding software. Adding geocoding capabilities to PostGIS would be possible, using some of the existing postgresql text comparison functions (levenshtien, soundex, phonex) and one new geometry function to generate the geocoded points. However, this is not something that is on our "hit parade" of things to do, yet. (We have one client who has slightly mentioned wanting this, but no dollar commitment to the development at this point.) P. Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 01:37:36PM -0600, John wrote: > > Question: Can anyone please direct me to a Free or Open Source application > > that will allow me to Geocode the street addresses I have - and then let me > > use the Census data to determine what Census Block Group the address > > belongs in? > > I am not familiar with the US Census Tiger data, but the they > should one way or another find their way into a database > (perhaps PostgreSQL/PostGIS works for this). > Now, depending on the strucuture and information of the Tiger > data, you should be able to send adequate queries. > > Has anyone of the US guys ever tried this? > > Jan > > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From dtrillo at dap.es Tue Feb 19 12:57:35 2002 From: dtrillo at dap.es (David Trillo Montero) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:57:35 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Question about Shapefiles Message-ID: Does some know a Visual Basic code or whatever for viewing a shapefile in Visual Basic? I don't have Map Objects and i'm looking for an alternative way of loading (or working with) shapefiles to my programs. Any suggestion will be appreciated. David Please: write to dtrillo at dap.es From warmerdam at pobox.com Tue Feb 19 16:10:06 2002 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:10:06 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: [mapserver-users] Strategy for dealing with Census Data? References: <3BCC3A7F.6D47D3C3@mediaone.net> <20011018040119.A2803@eggbert> <020e01c1b8c4$2c1ddd20$849b0044@VENTANAVISTA> <20020218213520.GA29632@eggbert> <20020219100834.GA28021@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3C726ACE.1020102@pobox.com> Frank Koormann wrote: > Wonder why not mentioned yet, but OGR can deal with TIGER/Line, so > ogr2ogr might be an alternative: > > http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/opengis/ Folks, I would note that the OGR support for Tiger doesn't currently form the polygons from the lines; however, since the basic polygons are rarely of great interest perhaps this doesn't matter. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From matthiasschaefer at firemail.de Wed Feb 20 19:06:15 2002 From: matthiasschaefer at firemail.de (Matthias Schäfer) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:06:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Freegis-list] German data Message-ID: <1014228374013648@firemail.de> Dear Madam and Sir, I am a student of the University of Konstanz at Germany. For my studies I need data about the coordinates of the German "Bundeslaender". In the WWW there are always the complete maps, but not the coordinates for them. Perhaps you could help me and tell me where I can found data about this. I would be very glad about your help. Thank you very much. Yours sincerely, Matthias Schaefer. ______________________________________________________ ?ber 1 Mio. Angebote - Startpreis Euro 1,- http://www.fireball.de/ebay.html From jan at intevation.de Thu Feb 21 16:42:24 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:42:24 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] German data In-Reply-To: <1014228374013648@firemail.de> References: <1014228374013648@firemail.de> Message-ID: <20020221154224.GA14792@intevation.de> Hi, On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:06:15PM +0100, Matthias Sch?fer wrote: > I am a student of the University of Konstanz at Germany. For > my studies I need data about the coordinates of the German > "Bundeslaender". In the WWW there are always the complete > maps, but not the coordinates for them. Perhaps you could > help me and tell me where I can found data about this. I > would be very glad about your help. the FreeGIS project is primarily interested in Free GeoData analog to Free Software. Unfortunately there are little useful free geogrpahic for areas other than the US. For political boundaries this is even more annyoing since these geographic information are defined, not measured and thus should not be owned by anyone resticting the rights to use so drastically as it is the case e.g. for Europe. For the meantime you will have to get proprietary data with all the restrictions. There might be some less precise free data out there ... I would be happy to learn about such. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From pramsey at refractions.net Mon Feb 25 20:45:13 2002 From: pramsey at refractions.net (Paul Ramsey) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:45:13 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] OSS Funding Message-ID: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> I thought I should share this with others on the list, because we need all need as much help as we can get to keep up with the ESRIs and Oracles of the world. OSS GIS software is being worked on by alot of different groups, with alot of different motives. Some of it is being done by individuals, others by companies, others by academics. Some of it is being done for free, some with government funding, some for commercial clients. As developers, it is important that we be aware of the funding sources available to us, and make an effort to stretch outside our domains, using partnerships with others to leverage the funding available. For example, DM Solutions has sucessfully used the Canadian GeoConnections funding organization to get funding to develop Mapserver and provide all sorts of critical enhancements, like WMS compliance. We (Refractions of PostGIS fame) are working with academics at the University of Victoria and with another company here in Victoria (Vivid Solutions, who did the Java Topology Suite) to get matching funds for R&D from a provincial technology research fund here. We often assume that in order to do OSS software it is necesary to labour in penury, but there are alot of ways to make OSS development less of a financial burden. I would encourage any company working on OSS projects to consider academic partnerships. The advantages are several: many governments offer incentives to encourage university/private sector joint R&D projects; using academic resources like graduate students in projects increases the number of developers with a "critical mass" understanding of the project, and therefor the health of the project in general; many hands make light work, it is not always possible to do everything yourself. Similarly, I would encourage academics to approach private companies in the field. If they can leverage contributions to an OSS research project through government matching funds, establish relationships with quality potential staffers (graduate students), and get good publicity by providing cash and in-kind funding, that is alot of positives to being part of an OSS project. I encourage all Canadian OSS GIS people to be sure to check out the GeoInnovations and GeoConnections projects, which are very favourable in terms of funding OSS projects. Also the federal SRED program which provides tax credits for pure R&D. I am sure other people have info on their respective countries too. From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Tue Feb 26 02:02:56 2002 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 25 Feb 2002 20:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] OSS Funding In-Reply-To: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> References: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> Message-ID: <1014685376.10523.4.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Good, good, I was about to write that email, from the academic standpoint. When I sit down and apply for a grant, it will include a chunk of money for software, all of which will go to fund free software. Does the freegis site have a link to consultants willing to implement features for a fee? It would be a useful resource. Also, it's a shame more computer science undergraduates and graduates don't get roped into free software projects. It seems like a great way to do supervised development for academic learning. Again, when I move to a position where I can take on mentoring students, it is an intent of mine to do this. Thanks for the post, I agree with it entirely. cheers, adrian From tklistaddr at keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu Mon Feb 25 22:41:16 2002 From: tklistaddr at keittlab.bio.sunysb.edu (Timothy H. Keitt) Date: 25 Feb 2002 16:41:16 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] OSS Funding In-Reply-To: <1014685376.10523.4.camel@tsetse.lab-net> References: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> <1014685376.10523.4.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Message-ID: <1014673276.17220.100.camel@keittlab-6> [Sorry if this gets sent twice; first one hit the moderator for using a different from address] I'll second that. If we could enlist the computational geometry folks and add some research applications (biodiversity mapping, dynamic modeling, parallel algorithms, etc.), we could think about submitting to NSF or others. I'm sure we could directly fund a great deal of development of free gis tools. Regards, Tim On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 20:02, Adrian Custer wrote: > Good, good, > > I was about to write that email, from the academic standpoint. When I > sit down and apply for a grant, it will include a chunk of money for > software, all of which will go to fund free software. Does the freegis > site have a link to consultants willing to implement features for a fee? > It would be a useful resource. > > Also, it's a shame more computer science undergraduates and graduates > don't get roped into free software projects. It seems like a great way > to do supervised development for academic learning. Again, when I move > to a position where I can take on mentoring students, it is an intent of > mine to do this. > > Thanks for the post, I agree with it entirely. > > cheers, > adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Feb 26 12:32:02 2002 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:32:02 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Free Software Funding In-Reply-To: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> References: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> Message-ID: <20020226113202.GD24473@intevation.de> Paul, thanks for the post. It is very true that Free Software companies and all other groups have to collaborate to bring more GIS solutions to everybody. We also have to check all funding sources and make sure we also create a market for commercial Free Software solutions. Bernhard On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:45:13AM -0800, Paul Ramsey wrote: > As developers, it is important that we be aware of the funding sources > available to us, and make an effort to stretch outside our domains, > using partnerships with others to leverage the funding available. > I would encourage any company working on OSS projects to consider > academic partnerships. > Similarly, I would encourage academics to approach private companies in > the field. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A first version is included on the FreeGIS-CD. http://freegis.org/FreeGIS-CD-doc-online/1.1.1/service.en.html Our policy has been strict on this and we only want companies who would be accepted as compliant by the draft criteria of the GNU business network. The biggest problem of such a list would be where to draw the line. If you have suggestion on how to progress with this, I'd be happy to hear them or receive help for it. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) If freegis is useful for you, consider paying for the service: http://freegis.org/about-paying.en.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps you could > > help me and tell me where I can found data about this. I > > would be very glad about your help. > > the FreeGIS project is primarily interested in Free GeoData > analog to Free Software. Unfortunately there are little > useful free geogrpahic for areas other than the US. > > For political boundaries this is even more annyoing since > these geographic information are defined, not measured and > thus should not be owned by anyone resticting the rights to > use so drastically as it is the case e.g. for Europe. > > For the meantime you will have to get proprietary data > with all the restrictions. > > There might be some less precise free data out there ... > I would be happy to learn about such. Hi, probably these data are interesting: http://www.grid.unep.ch/data/grid/all.html Copyright ?UNEP/DEWA/GRID-Geneva Even if not free as we dream of, but interesting. Cheers Markus From rahimaliabbaspour at yahoo.com Thu Feb 28 14:00:36 2002 From: rahimaliabbaspour at yahoo.com (Rahim Abbaspour) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:00:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <20020228130036.2177.qmail@web11806.mail.yahoo.com> --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020228/abf30269/attachment.html From jan at intevation.de Thu Feb 28 19:25:26 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:25:26 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] OSS Funding In-Reply-To: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> References: <3C7A9449.8D5D8E66@refractions.net> Message-ID: <20020228182526.GA16670@intevation.de> Hi Paul, On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:45:13AM -0800, Paul Ramsey wrote: > I would encourage any company working on OSS projects to consider > academic partnerships. The advantages are several: many governments > offer incentives to encourage university/private sector joint R&D > projects; using academic resources like graduate students in projects > increases the number of developers with a "critical mass" understanding > of the project, and therefor the health of the project in general; many > hands make light work, it is not always possible to do everything > yourself. > > Similarly, I would encourage academics to approach private companies in > the field. If they can leverage contributions to an OSS research project > through government matching funds, establish relationships with quality > potential staffers (graduate students), and get good publicity by > providing cash and in-kind funding, that is alot of positives to being > part of an OSS project. > > I encourage all Canadian OSS GIS people to be sure to check out the > GeoInnovations and GeoConnections projects, which are very favourable in > terms of funding OSS projects. Also the federal SRED program which > provides tax credits for pure R&D. I am sure other people have info on > their respective countries too. thank you very much for this post on consideration of Free Software in funded projects! As Bernhard already pointed out, we must also take care that Free Software works commercially without funding. However, on the funding idea I encourage all Europeans to consider Free Software in their EC proposals. Actually, Academia naturally must apply/develop Free Software for any scientific project. Sharing comprehensible knowledge is the core of science and this essentially means to share source codes and rights to change/improve them just like other scientific outcomes. Its a pity that most universities nowadays try to produce proprietary goods and don't share the knowledge any more. The EC proposal evaluators (I was one twice) are not blind to this fact and prefer proposals where Free Software is promised rather than proprietary stuff. Currently there are far to few proposals considering Free Software - please submit more! Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From lmelgaco at ige.unicamp.br Thu Feb 28 20:12:28 2002 From: lmelgaco at ige.unicamp.br (lmelgaco@ige.unicamp.br) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:12:28 -0300 (BRT) Subject: [Freegis-list] DEM Message-ID: <20020228191228.D1F431E002@saturno.ige.unicamp.br> Hello, Besides Surfer and Oasis Montaj which software generates a Digital Elevation Model (DEM) from a dxf file? Thanks -- Lucas de Melo Melgaço Brazil