From cjkeuck at mapmedia.de Thu Aug 1 10:05:59 2002 From: cjkeuck at mapmedia.de (Keuck, Carl Jan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:05:59 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] UMN MapServer manual Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801100343.01a1faf8@pop.gmx.de> Hello everybody on this list, MapMedia (Berlin, Germany) has published the first german manual for the UMN MapServer (v3.6). The manual's title is "UMN MapServer, Handbuch und Referenz" and was written by Thorsten Fischer. It covers the multiple installation and configuration possibilities of MapServer, including the integration of the PostgreSQL-based spatial extension PostGIS. Special attention was given to the MapScript library to include MapServer services into websites with e.g. PHP. The manual is completed by a MapScript reference. The manual's audience is intended to contain developers of MapServer-based webmapping solutions and system administrators who want to integrate MapServer into their webservers. More information and purchase at: MapMedia, Am Borsigturm 42, 13507 Berlin, Tel: +49.30.4303 2100, info at mapmedia.de, http://www.mapmedia.de From alexdum at mymail.ro Fri Aug 2 09:27:19 2002 From: alexdum at mymail.ro (Alexandru Dumitrescu) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:27:19 +0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <002101c239f6$0ce57ea0$ea05a8c0@intranet.inmh> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Intra pe forumul myMail.ro : http://www.mymail.ro/mymail/forum?s=5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020802/b3626274/attachment.html From Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM Wed Aug 14 11:02:05 2002 From: Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM (Liam Castagna) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:02:05 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] NTF converters Message-ID: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC9501A39E@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> Hi, Does anybody know of a free .NTF to .MIF (OS to MapInfo) converter? This subject has been discussed before (Nov 2001) but I'm hoping there has been progress in this area since then Regards Liam Castagna From warmerdam at pobox.com Wed Aug 14 14:14:10 2002 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:14:10 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] NTF converters References: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC9501A39E@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> Message-ID: <3D5A4992.40706@pobox.com> Liam Castagna wrote: > Hi, > Does anybody know of a free .NTF to .MIF (OS to MapInfo) converter? > This subject has been discussed before (Nov 2001) but I'm hoping there > has been progress in this area since then Liam, The 'ogr2ogr' utility distributed with GDAL/OGR can be used to translate .NTF files to MapInfo format. More information on OGR can be found at: http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/opengis/ A reasonably recent build of the OGR utilities (as part of a larger package) can be found at: ftp://ftp.remotesensing.org/pub/gdal/openev/OpenEV_FW_142.zip Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From benb at restec.or.jp Thu Aug 15 08:56:49 2002 From: benb at restec.or.jp (Ben Burford) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:56:49 +0900 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware Message-ID: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> Hello All, I am looking for freeware to install an OGC Web Map Server (WMS). This will be used in a project to help agencies, universities, etc. to install WMSs t hroughout Asia to improve availability of GIS data in Asia. I want to find as many examples of software as possible, which will be evaluated and one wi ll be chosen for this project. The software that I'm currently aware of is: 1. http://tull.mit.edu/orthoserver/ This is more like a Terraserver. 2. http://www.intl-interfaces.net/cookbook/WMS/ WMS written by Allan Doyle. 3. http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/ This is Mapserver from U. of Minnesota. Any help in locating WMS freeware will be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Ben From jan at intevation.de Fri Aug 16 09:00:13 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:00:13 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware In-Reply-To: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> References: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> Message-ID: <20020816070013.GA442@intevation.de> Hello Ben, On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 03:56:49PM +0900, Ben Burford wrote: > I am looking for freeware to install an OGC Web Map Server (WMS). This will > be used in a project to help agencies, universities, etc. to install WMSs t > hroughout Asia to improve availability of GIS data in Asia. I want to find > as many examples of software as possible, which will be evaluated and one wi > ll be chosen for this project. You should think about whether you are bound to the critrion that your web mapping solution has a deadly need to provide full WMS compatibility. MapServer is surely leading the pack of Free Software web mapping applications. But it is not fully WMS compliant (most people don't bother since MapServer does the job excellently even without compliance). I think that JaGo is the most WMS compliant approach you will find as Free Software. > Any help in locating WMS freeware will be greatly appreciated! "Freeware" is a bad term to refer to Free Software. Please read http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/categories.html#freeware for more. All the best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From morissette at dmsolutions.ca Fri Aug 16 15:21:54 2002 From: morissette at dmsolutions.ca (Daniel Morissette) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:21:54 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware References: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> <20020816070013.GA442@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3D5CFC72.E4A80B6E@dmsolutions.ca> Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > MapServer is surely leading the pack of Free Software web mapping > applications. But it is not fully WMS compliant (most people don't > bother since MapServer does the job excellently even without compliance). > Could you please be more specific on what you mean by "not fully WMS compliant"? AFAIK MapServer properly supports all versions of WMS between 1.0.0 and 1.1.0... so if there is any problem then we would apreciate hearing of them so that they can be resolved. Thanks. Daniel -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Morissette morissette at dmsolutions.ca DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Don't put for tomorrow what you can do today, because if you enjoy it today you can do it again tomorrow. From jan at intevation.de Mon Aug 19 10:37:35 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:37:35 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware In-Reply-To: <3D5CFC72.E4A80B6E@dmsolutions.ca> References: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> <20020816070013.GA442@intevation.de> <3D5CFC72.E4A80B6E@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <20020819083735.GA1024@intevation.de> Hello Daniel, On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:21:54AM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > MapServer is surely leading the pack of Free Software web mapping > > applications. But it is not fully WMS compliant (most people don't > > bother since MapServer does the job excellently even without compliance). > > Could you please be more specific on what you mean by "not fully WMS > compliant"? AFAIK MapServer properly supports all versions of WMS > between 1.0.0 and 1.1.0... so if there is any problem then we would > apreciate hearing of them so that they can be resolved. Well, first of all the MapServer homepage says that it is still in the works ;-) IIRC, STYLES were missing quite a while, but this may have changed meanwhile? I would be happy to know that MapServer is now fully supporting WMS 1.1. However, the excellence of MapServer is not dominated by the fact of "WMS compatibility". MapServer is stable, fast and flexible. There are proprietary products out there which make a big story out of their WMS compliance, but are either slow, unstable or inflexible. WMS compliance should be one item on the feature list on the MapServer homepage though :-) BTW, are also some (or even all) WMS 1.1 optional features supported by MapServer? All the best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Markus.Mueller at bug.hamburg.de Tue Aug 20 09:10:19 2002 From: Markus.Mueller at bug.hamburg.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22M=FCller=2C_Markus=22?=) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:10:19 +0200 Subject: AW: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware Message-ID: Hi Daniel when it comes to WMS-compliance, then the JaGo-WMS (now deegree-WMS, http://www.deegree.org/demo/index.html) should be a good choice. So far only WMS 1.0.0 is supported with 1.1.1 being work in progress. English documentation will also be supplied in the next few days. regards Markus -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jan-Oliver Wagner [mailto:jan at intevation.de] Gesendet: Montag, 19. August 2002 10:38 An: freegis-list at intevation.de Betreff: Re: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware Hello Daniel, On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:21:54AM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > MapServer is surely leading the pack of Free Software web mapping > > applications. But it is not fully WMS compliant (most people don't > > bother since MapServer does the job excellently even without compliance). > > Could you please be more specific on what you mean by "not fully WMS > compliant"? AFAIK MapServer properly supports all versions of WMS > between 1.0.0 and 1.1.0... so if there is any problem then we would > apreciate hearing of them so that they can be resolved. Well, first of all the MapServer homepage says that it is still in the works ;-) IIRC, STYLES were missing quite a while, but this may have changed meanwhile? I would be happy to know that MapServer is now fully supporting WMS 1.1. However, the excellence of MapServer is not dominated by the fact of "WMS compatibility". MapServer is stable, fast and flexible. There are proprietary products out there which make a big story out of their WMS compliance, but are either slow, unstable or inflexible. WMS compliance should be one item on the feature list on the MapServer homepage though :-) BTW, are also some (or even all) WMS 1.1 optional features supported by MapServer? All the best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From morissette at dmsolutions.ca Thu Aug 22 21:15:24 2002 From: morissette at dmsolutions.ca (Daniel Morissette) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:15:24 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware References: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> <20020816070013.GA442@intevation.de> <3D5CFC72.E4A80B6E@dmsolutions.ca> <20020819083735.GA1024@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3D65384C.B386C94B@dmsolutions.ca> Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > Hello Daniel, > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:21:54AM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > > Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > > MapServer is surely leading the pack of Free Software web mapping > > > applications. But it is not fully WMS compliant (most people don't > > > bother since MapServer does the job excellently even without compliance). > > > > Could you please be more specific on what you mean by "not fully WMS > > compliant"? AFAIK MapServer properly supports all versions of WMS > > between 1.0.0 and 1.1.0... so if there is any problem then we would > > apreciate hearing of them so that they can be resolved. > > Well, first of all the MapServer homepage says that it is still in the > works ;-) > Oopps... you're correct. Unfortunately I have no control on the UMN website so hopefully someone from UMN will read this and fix it. > IIRC, STYLES were missing quite a while, but this may have changed > meanwhile? > STYLES (SLD) are not supported in server mode you are correct. This in one of the features that clients ask for often so hopefully we can get this funded and add it to the software in the not too distant future. In client mode (when you embed WMS layers in a MapServer mapping application), you can already use styles without MapServer being aware of them. We've done it in a few apps... just requires an understanding of the way SLD works in order to define your SLD document, that's the tricky part. > I would be happy to know that MapServer is now fully supporting > WMS 1.1. It is fully supporting all "required" features, yes. So from this point of view it is fully compliant with the spec IMHO. As you wrote it doesn't support all options of the WMS spec... but these are added as needed (and funded ;) > WMS compliance should be one item on the feature list on the MapServer > homepage though :-) > Agreed. WMS is an importnat feature and should be listed on the main page. But if all features of MapServer were listed on the main homepage then it would become a several pages document! :) > BTW, are also some (or even all) WMS 1.1 optional features supported > by MapServer? > GetFeatureInfo is optional and is supported. I don't have other options in mind... I think SLD is the main one missing. Daniel -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Morissette morissette at dmsolutions.ca DM Solutions Group http://www.dmsolutions.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Don't put for tomorrow what you can do today, because if you enjoy it today you can do it again tomorrow. From erwin at perik.nu Sat Aug 24 13:24:31 2002 From: erwin at perik.nu (E Perik) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 13:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] export XYZ file to DEM Message-ID: <000201c24b60$d15e3170$967ba8c0@xp> Hi all, I was looking for a tool which converts a X,Y,Z file into a DEM. MicroDEM is an option, but those DEM's cannot be used by for instance Manifold 5. The XYZ could be a dbf, an access database, or an ASCII file. Does someone know if such a tool out there somewhere ? Thanks, Erwin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020824/64e5fdcc/attachment.html From silke at intevation.de Mon Aug 26 10:51:42 2002 From: silke at intevation.de (Silke Reimer) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:51:42 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] WMS Freeware In-Reply-To: <3D65384C.B386C94B@dmsolutions.ca> References: <4.0.1-J.20020815154842.01009c30@172.16.1.3> <20020816070013.GA442@intevation.de> <3D5CFC72.E4A80B6E@dmsolutions.ca> <20020819083735.GA1024@intevation.de> <3D65384C.B386C94B@dmsolutions.ca> Message-ID: <20020826085142.GA28761@intevation.de> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Daniel Morissette wrote: > STYLES (SLD) are not supported in server mode you are correct. This in > one of the features that clients ask for often so hopefully we can get > this funded and add it to the software in the not too distant future. > > In client mode (when you embed WMS layers in a MapServer mapping > application), you can already use styles without MapServer being aware > of them. We've done it in a few apps... just requires an understanding > of the way SLD works in order to define your SLD document, that's the > tricky part. > > > > I would be happy to know that MapServer is now fully supporting > > WMS 1.1. > > It is fully supporting all "required" features, yes. So from this point > of view it is fully compliant with the spec IMHO. > > As you wrote it doesn't support all options of the WMS spec... but these > are added as needed (and funded ;) I once again read the OGC Web Map Service Implmentation Specification , Version 1.1.0. In this document STYLES and SLD are two different features where STYLES is required and only optional if SLD is present. This is the reason why I always argue that the UMN Mapserver is not fully supporting WMS 1.1. (at least for the UMN Mapserver 3.6. I'm not sure if this feature is implemented for 3.7 (?)). Perhaps I have overseen some detail and I would be glad to revise my statement. Silke -- Silke Reimer Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20020826/ba6752eb/attachment.bin From benkarl at texas.net Mon Aug 26 19:45:04 2002 From: benkarl at texas.net (benkarl@texas.net) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:45:04 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping Message-ID: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> Hello, I'm new to this list and I was hoping someone could direct me to the solution to a problem I have or to more information. You see, I'm working on a website for a real estate company right now and we would like the ability to include maps based on the street addresses of properties for sale. Sites like Mapquest do what we want to do, but unfortunatly contracting with them for services is far too expensive for our little operation at $4500 per year. Thus, I'm looking into the possibility of setting up our own map server. My research indicates that there is a set of data available for use from the Census Bureau to get the actual geographic information for free on an "as is" basis. That leaves software to interpret it. I'm hoping someone can direct me to an open source project that is suited for what I'd like to do. I'm also not adverse to looking at more reasonably priced commercial software and data. Thank you, Ben Krauskopf benkarl at texas.net From jan at intevation.de Tue Aug 27 09:24:24 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:24:24 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping In-Reply-To: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> References: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> Message-ID: <20020827072424.GB388@intevation.de> Dear Ben, On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 12:45:04PM -0500, benkarl at texas.net wrote: > I'm hoping someone can direct me to an open source project that is > suited for what I'd like to do. I'm also not adverse to looking at more > reasonably priced commercial software and data. as for the software part MapServer probably is the best choice. I have no personal experience with the TIGER data, but I think they are adequate for this purpose - am I wrong here? Free Software is also commercial software - e.g. in the case you decide to pay a company for setting up the MapServer application. If you like, you can even pay a monthly/yearly fee for updates, maintenance etc. In order to ensure sustainable availability of high quality free software you should make sure that the company you contract is actively supporting Free Software. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM Tue Aug 27 10:58:14 2002 From: Liam at GROUNDSURE.COM (Liam Castagna) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:58:14 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping Message-ID: <319545A8D4BE2A488C95AFF81F67DC9501A3BD@NTSERVER.GROUNDSURE.LTD> I've read your query with interest, and was wondering where could I find out more about the Census Bureau data set? I'm sorry but I have no information to give you regarding the software. Regards Liam -----Original Message----- From: benkarl at texas.net [mailto:benkarl at texas.net] Sent: 26 August 2002 18:45 To: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping Hello, I'm new to this list and I was hoping someone could direct me to the solution to a problem I have or to more information. You see, I'm working on a website for a real estate company right now and we would like the ability to include maps based on the street addresses of properties for sale. Sites like Mapquest do what we want to do, but unfortunatly contracting with them for services is far too expensive for our little operation at $4500 per year. Thus, I'm looking into the possibility of setting up our own map server. My research indicates that there is a set of data available for use from the Census Bureau to get the actual geographic information for free on an "as is" basis. That leaves software to interpret it. I'm hoping someone can direct me to an open source project that is suited for what I'd like to do. I'm also not adverse to looking at more reasonably priced commercial software and data. Thank you, Ben Krauskopf benkarl at texas.net _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From jan at intevation.de Wed Aug 28 08:36:50 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:36:50 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping In-Reply-To: <3D6C1E07.17825.20F03B@localhost> References: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> <3D6C1E07.17825.20F03B@localhost> Message-ID: <20020828063650.GA2799@intevation.de> On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:49:11AM -0500, benkarl at texas.net wrote: > On 27 Aug 2002, at 9:24, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > Free Software is also commercial software - e.g. in the case you decide > > to pay a company for setting up the MapServer application. > > If you like, you can even pay a monthly/yearly fee for updates, > > maintenance etc. > > Well, the first step would be finding one and checking their rates. a good option for North-America is DMSolutions http://www.dmsolutions.on.ca/home.html They actively support the development of Free Software. > > In order to ensure sustainable availability of high quality free > > software you should make sure that the company you contract is > > actively supporting Free Software. > > We would be glad to support it ourselves at some level, if thats the > route we go for this, if we can just find out how to do so. Well, paying Free Software companies is one way. But to be sure that you really support Free Software and not just a company that just grabs code and does not pay off for the base work, always try to find out whether the company is honestly dedicated to Free Software as a business concept. Of course you may also build know-how in your group. Or even combine internal and external support. With Free Software you have control over this decision. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From alet at librelogiciel.com Mon Aug 26 19:48:13 2002 From: alet at librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:48:13 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Street Mapping In-Reply-To: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> References: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> Message-ID: <20020826174813.GB1067@mail.librelogiciel.com> On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 12:45:04PM -0500, benkarl at texas.net wrote: > ... > My research indicates that there is a set of data available for use > from the Census Bureau to get the actual geographic information > for free on an "as is" basis. That leaves software to interpret it. > > I'm hoping someone can direct me to an open source project that is > suited for what I'd like to do. I'm also not adverse to looking at more > reasonably priced commercial software and data. Maybe PDFMap (http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/) may be of some help, if you can express locations as (x, y). Look at the examples on the site. Same with MapIt! (http://www.mapit.de, IIRC) hth Jerome Alet From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Wed Aug 28 18:02:41 2002 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 28 Aug 2002 09:02:41 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] List of Companies Supporting FreeGIS (was: Street Mapping) In-Reply-To: <20020828063650.GA2799@intevation.de> References: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> <3D6C1E07.17825.20F03B@localhost> <20020828063650.GA2799@intevation.de> Message-ID: <1030550562.30235.6.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Hey All, This seems like it could become part of the mission of the FreeGIS project. A list of companies that provide support to one or another project and a plug for products/services they offer. It would be great to point some of the commercial spending in useful directions. Might be a lot of work so I don't know how we could minimize that. Something like Company Name | Project Helped | Dates of Involvement | Co. Products ------------------------------------------------------------------- so we could steer consultancy work in useful directions and give a boost to companies offering free software solutions. Once it gained critical mass it could be stopped and we would have a list of "early adopters". Thoughts are cheap, I realize, cheers, adrian From ycnyon at pd.jaring.my Wed Aug 28 20:27:17 2002 From: ycnyon at pd.jaring.my (YC Nyon) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:27:17 +0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: Free geographic data Message-ID: <001701c24ec0$d55378e0$6f40ba66@domain> Hi, I got 2 questions. 1. I remember there were some party doing up free street data in Canada (i think). The aim was for everyone to contribute some data that would be available for others. Anyone got the url? 2. Regarding to the intention of 'giving' data in exchange for others, will it work. www.communityupdate.com is one example. A simpler example would be MapXchange at Nationalgeographic.com. These days, collecting data is so easy with GPS. If we could 'split' the work and get a application to combine all these data, then data wouldn't be so difficult to get. Like to hear opinions. I am from Southeast Asia, so there is not GDT or Navtech. Nyon From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Wed Aug 28 20:47:04 2002 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 28 Aug 2002 11:47:04 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: Free geographic data In-Reply-To: <001701c24ec0$d55378e0$6f40ba66@domain> References: <001701c24ec0$d55378e0$6f40ba66@domain> Message-ID: <1030560424.30638.29.camel@tsetse.lab-net> On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 11:27, YC Nyon wrote: > Hi, > I got 2 questions. > > 1. I remember there were some party doing up free street data in Canada (i > think). The aim was for everyone to contribute > some data that would be available for others. Anyone got the url? > > 2. Regarding to the intention of 'giving' data in exchange for others, will > it work. www.communityupdate.com is one example. > A simpler example would be MapXchange at Nationalgeographic.com. These days, > collecting data is so easy with GPS. If we could > 'split' the work and get a application to combine all these data, then data > wouldn't be so difficult to get. > Like to hear opinions. I am from Southeast Asia, so there is not GDT or > Navtech. Yeah, this has occurred to a lot of us. Only it's not that simple because there needs to be some editing/evaluation of the stuff as it comes in. Take a look at the cooperative gis {should be gps} project: http://gis.anu.edu.au/ and the thread on the mailinglist starting at: http://www.intevention.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2001-March/000312.html Also check out the project on a street map of Oslo and for all your other needs "search" on freegis.org is your friend, --adrian > > Nyon > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From alfred.de-jager at jrc.it Thu Aug 29 12:01:06 2002 From: alfred.de-jager at jrc.it (alfred.de-jager@jrc.it) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:01:06 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Freegis-list digest, Vol 1 #427 - 4 msgs In-Reply-To: <20020829100002.23575.42722.Mailman@doto.intevation.de> Message-ID: <3C7774BD00107D33@it-mboxes.jrc.it> ----- The following is an automated response ----- to your message generated on behalf of alfred.de-jager at it-mboxes.jrc.it Ik ben op vakantie tot 23 augustus Sono in ferie fino a 23 agosto I am on holidays until 23 august From neteler at itc.it Thu Aug 29 16:20:06 2002 From: neteler at itc.it (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:20:06 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Searching for ASTER DEMs and/or L1Bs for southern hemisphere Message-ID: <20020829162006.A27738@itc.it> Hi all, to test the geocoding of the upcoming HDF driver for GDAL we are searching for ASTER DEMs and/or L1Bs for *southern* hemisphere. If anyone can provide such data, please contact Andrey Kiselev (he's not on this list) Thanks, Markus Neteler From jan at intevation.de Fri Aug 30 19:59:23 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:59:23 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: Free geographic data In-Reply-To: <001701c24ec0$d55378e0$6f40ba66@domain> References: <001701c24ec0$d55378e0$6f40ba66@domain> Message-ID: <20020830175923.GA1483@intevation.de> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:27:17AM +0800, YC Nyon wrote: > 1. I remember there were some party doing up free street data in Canada (i > think). The aim was for everyone to contribute > some data that would be available for others. Anyone got the url? it probably was the Oslo project http://www.freemap.nett.org/english/index.html which is no more active as it seems. > 2. Regarding to the intention of 'giving' data in exchange for others, will > it work. www.communityupdate.com is one example. > A simpler example would be MapXchange at Nationalgeographic.com. These days, > collecting data is so easy with GPS. If we could > 'split' the work and get a application to combine all these data, then data > wouldn't be so difficult to get. > Like to hear opinions. I am from Southeast Asia, so there is not GDT or > Navtech. it is a permanent nuisance to not have Free Vector-Geodata. Especially for non-US countries. My dream is a project where a joined efford of networked people build up and maintain vector data each of their area under GNU GPL or a GPL-like-for-Geodata License (Richard Stallman already offered to link us to the FSF license experts). It would be good to have many Free Software companies in this network that have a financial benefit from the Free Vector-Geodata, but other interested parties do make a lot sense as well. However, without a good fundament (a infrastructure to share the data, ensure quality etc as well as a comprehensive discussion prior to the actual work) is unavoidable for a success. And it will cost quite a lot of money (anything above 200.000 Euro may give a start, the more the higher are the chances for a success). Right at the moment I do not see anyone willing to pay for this. The companies that may make a business out of this are not in the position to pay for the initial infrastructure. BTW, Intevation just started a small project on producing a high quality street map of a german city which will be available as Free Vector-Geodata. It is in the spirit of my vision, but acutally serves the simple problem that until now we can not accompany Free GIS Software tools with interesting european demo-data. There is no web-site yet (will be announced on this list). The best part about it is that we are supported by the city authorities (no money though, but they like the idea). Maybe this will serve as a reference for further projects. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Fri Aug 30 21:52:46 2002 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:52:46 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] List of Companies Supporting FreeGIS (was: Street Mapping) In-Reply-To: <1030550562.30235.6.camel@tsetse.lab-net> References: <3D6A22D0.28174.36EC2F@localhost> <3D6C1E07.17825.20F03B@localhost> <20020828063650.GA2799@intevation.de> <1030550562.30235.6.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Message-ID: <20020830195246.GB1483@intevation.de> On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 09:02:41AM -0700, Adrian Custer wrote: > This seems like it could become part of the mission of the FreeGIS > project. A list of companies that provide support to one or another > project and a plug for products/services they offer. It would be great > to point some of the commercial spending in useful directions. it is a quite delecate task and we discussed it a couple of times. As you might know, there is a (rather small) list of companies that we advertise on the FreeGIS CD documentation, see the bottom links at: http://freegis.org/FreeGIS-CD-doc-online/1.2.1/freegis_cd.de.html The reason why there are only two entries is, that we had to give a definition on a 'Free Software Company'. The problem is that there is a broad range of companies that partly just issue Free Software products, but actually try to sell licenses of add-on etc. Of course, on the other hand, there are companies that are quite dedicated to Free Software, but still have a proprietary branch. Where to draw the line? We apply the definition as they are discussed for the GNU business network: http://mailman.gnubiz.org/pipermail/gnubiz-disc/2000-December/000014.html The GNU Business Network is an activity that currently is not much in progress, because the people behind did the grand job to set up the FSF Europe first. It would mean a great efford to set up a further definition that would include important companies like DMSolutions, but exclude those that do not support Free Software with their very interests. So my signal is just: please set up more companies that suffice the definition of the GNU Business Network (GBN). I hope that the GBN will soon be more active and lfinally launch as it would not only help the FreeGIS community. Best Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/