From reddy at AI.SRI.COM Sun Jul 1 04:42:38 2001 From: reddy at AI.SRI.COM (Martin Reddy) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:42:38 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Web Map Server support in TerraVision In-Reply-To: <20010630205715.F19882@intevation.de> Message-ID: Hi Bernard, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > it is good to see that SRI has released the tsmApi as Free Software > and plans to release the server implementation in the future. > Thanks for giving back to the community. Happy to make a small contribution. This was just a heads up of course, and we plan to get the sources and compiled binaries out there just as soon as we can. Still tweaking a few things. > Two remarks for our readers on the freegis-list: > > The Apache license (v1.1) coming with tsmApi has a couple of > requirements which renders it incompatible with the GPL. Is that an issue for this list? I thought that FreeGIS was supportive of OSI approved licenses, of which Apache is one. > TerraVision does not qualify as Free Software. > Annoucements for proprietary Software are off-topic in this list. My apologies. I'll be more careful about this in future. Cheers, Martin. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Reddy SRI International, AI Center Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 reddy at ai.sri.com Tel : (650) 859-6468 http://www.martinreddy.net/ Fax : (650) 859-3735 From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Jul 2 11:16:27 2001 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:16:27 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Web Map Server support in TerraVision In-Reply-To: ; from reddy@AI.SRI.COM on Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 07:42:38PM -0700 References: <20010630205715.F19882@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010702111627.A3340@intevation.de> On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 07:42:38PM -0700, Martin Reddy wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > Happy to make a small contribution. All small steps will get us moving. > This was just a heads up of course, > and we plan to get the sources and compiled binaries out there just as > soon as we can. Let us know when we can download the sources. :) > > Two remarks for our readers on the freegis-list: > > > > The Apache license (v1.1) coming with tsmApi has a couple of > > requirements which renders it incompatible with the GPL. > > Is that an issue for this list? I thought that FreeGIS was supportive of > OSI approved licenses, of which Apache is one. We are supportive of all Free Software and licenses which fit the criteria of the necessary four freedoms. The Apache licence qualifies as a Free Software license. Of course there are differences in the Free Software licenses I just wanted to point them out. > > TerraVision does not qualify as Free Software. > > Annoucements for proprietary Software are off-topic in this list. > > My apologies. I'll be more careful about this in future. Thanks. Your mail was definatly interesting for the list. I am trying to make sure that the focus on Free Software of this list is understood so this gave another opportunity to point out the nasty little differences in proprietory software called "freeware" or "freely" available and Free Software. Best, Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please note, that we have added Spanish and Portuguese documents. This is to say: other languages than English and German are welcome, I just don't speak most of those :-) Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jul 2 16:46:28 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 16:46:28 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] [ral@alum.mit.edu: CANADIAN GEOSPATIAL DATA PO LICY STUDY] In-Reply-To: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530ADB0F76@raptor.gov.yk.ca>; from Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:05:24AM -0700 References: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530ADB0F76@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Message-ID: <20010702164628.A5180@intevation.de> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:05:24AM -0700, Matt.Wilkie wrote: > Most of the study findings concur with comments submitted > to the Canadian Free Geospatial Data Committee, which can be seen > at http://members.home.net/freedata/. > > So far most people are focussing on the cost meaning of Free. If > you do take the time to fill out the petition or submit a comment, > please feel free {grin} to refocus the issue on the necessity of > liberty as well. > > You don't have to be Canadian to participate. > I only can recommend that all of you support this action. It would also be great so see similar sites for other countries. AFAIK, USA is the only country where free GI are available. Am I wrong? Are there any guesses which country is probably close to make GI free or at least is willing to discuss the matter seriously? I can add that for Germany there is still a long way to go. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jul 2 17:16:15 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:16:15 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] another entry: Geotouch Message-ID: <20010702171615.D5180@intevation.de> Again thanks to Felipe: Geotouch http://www.unc.edu/~leesj/Geotouch/ Geotouch is an all purpose, three-dimensional, GIS mapping and data exploration toolbox. Version: 2.0 License: Public Domain Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From bernhard at intevation.de Mon Jul 2 18:25:57 2001 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:25:57 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] another entry: Geotouch In-Reply-To: <20010702171615.D5180@intevation.de>; from jan@intevation.de on Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:16:15PM +0200 References: <20010702171615.D5180@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010702182557.B4405@intevation.de> On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > Again thanks to Felipe: > > Geotouch > http://www.unc.edu/~leesj/Geotouch/ > Geotouch is an all purpose, three-dimensional, GIS mapping and data > exploration toolbox. > Version: 2.0 > License: Public Domain AFAIS it is not PD. It says: Copyright ? 1996 Jonathan M. Lees ...This program is free... http://www.unc.edu/~leesj/XM_DOC/index.html and Copyright (c) 1994-1997 by Jonathan M. Lees http://www.unc.edu/~leesj/FETCH/GEOTOUCH/Geotouch.README Thus it is not in the public domain. I could not find a license statement which grants the necessary freedoms so I am not even sure that it is free software. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have deactivated the entry and send an email to the author. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 3 16:39:52 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:39:52 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] tkgeomap updated Message-ID: <20010703163952.E11121@intevation.de> tkgeomap http://www.tkgeomap.org/ has been updated from 1.6 to 1.6.1. This is a necessary bug fix release. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Tue Jul 3 19:06:15 2001 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:06:15 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Web Map Server support in TerraVision Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530ADB156A@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Hi Martin, > > Two remarks for our readers on the freegis-list: > > > > The Apache license (v1.1) coming with tsmApi has a couple of > > requirements which renders it incompatible with the GPL. > > Is that an issue for this list? I thought that FreeGIS was > supportive of OSI approved licenses, of which Apache is one. Bernhard will of course correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll try to clarify this a little. Bernhard didn't mean that the Apache license is not welcome to the FreeGIS community - the Apache License does comply with the Open Source Defintion and is Free Software as the term is understood by the FreeGIS project. It is just that although Apache & GPL licensed code are both Free Software, they cannot be just lumped together into a single codebase. For more detail on this see: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses http://www.google.com/search?q=license+Apache+GPL cheers, -matt ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Wilkie * Yukon Renewable Resources GIS http://renres.gov.yk.ca/pubs/rrgis/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From reddy at AI.SRI.COM Tue Jul 3 19:09:05 2001 From: reddy at AI.SRI.COM (Martin Reddy) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:09:05 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] OGC Web Map Server support in TerraVision In-Reply-To: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530ADB156A@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Message-ID: Okay - thanks for the clarification. I hadn't come across this issue before. Cheers, Martin. On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Matt.Wilkie wrote: > Hi Martin, > > > > Two remarks for our readers on the freegis-list: > > > > > > The Apache license (v1.1) coming with tsmApi has a couple of > > > requirements which renders it incompatible with the GPL. > > > > Is that an issue for this list? I thought that FreeGIS was > > supportive of OSI approved licenses, of which Apache is one. > > Bernhard will of course correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll try > to clarify this a little. > > Bernhard didn't mean that the Apache license is not welcome to > the FreeGIS community - the Apache License does comply with the > Open Source Defintion and is Free Software as the term is understood > by the FreeGIS project. It is just that although Apache & GPL > licensed code are both Free Software, they cannot be just lumped > together into a single codebase. > > For more detail on this see: > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses > http://www.google.com/search?q=license+Apache+GPL > > cheers, > > -matt > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Matt Wilkie * Yukon Renewable Resources GIS > http://renres.gov.yk.ca/pubs/rrgis/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Reddy SRI International, AI Center Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 reddy at ai.sri.com Tel : (650) 859-6468 http://www.martinreddy.net/ Fax : (650) 859-3735 From Stealth123 at btamail.net.cn Thu Jul 5 23:32:07 2001 From: Stealth123 at btamail.net.cn (Stealth123@btamail.net.cn) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:32:07 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] 10 Million Fresh Email Addresses, Stealth Mass Mailer & More.. 12123 Message-ID: <200107052138.f65Lc3323471@omecihuatl.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> Email advertising WORKS! 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Know anything about it? cheers Denny From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Fri Jul 6 18:08:33 2001 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 06 Jul 2001 09:08:33 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] anybody out there playing with GML and SVG? In-Reply-To: <3B45D14F.64D02EE7@magic.fr> References: <3B45D14F.64D02EE7@magic.fr> Message-ID: <994435713.1218.0.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Sorry, could we try this again in human understandable language? DCW is a vector format or the Digital Chart of the World? GML I assume is one of the numerous free GIS projects and SVG must be scaled vector graphics. XSL has to be one of the family of XML parsing/displaying/correcting layers. We are many on this list, from many different fields, each with our own pool of acronyms. Let's try to make our communication a little less compact and a little more portable. Thanks. And ideally, you might give us an idea of what you are hoping to do and why. I probably won't join you now but if you are still working in six months and I understand what you are doing, I might join. ciao, adrian On 06 Jul 2001 16:55:11 +0200, Denny wrote: > Hi > > We've made some progress in transforming DCW to GML...now we're looking > for an XSL to transform the data to SVG... > > Anyone else have interest in this? Know anything about it? From reddy at AI.SRI.COM Fri Jul 6 18:48:00 2001 From: reddy at AI.SRI.COM (Martin Reddy) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:48:00 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] anybody out there playing with GML and SVG? In-Reply-To: <994435713.1218.0.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Message-ID: GML is the Geographic Markup Language, an XML-based format for representing geographic features that is being developed by the OpenGIS Consortium. The GML 2.0 spec is available at: http://www.opengis.org/techno/specs.htm Don't know of any stylesheets to convert to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics, an W3C candidate recommendation for representing 2D grahics in XML), although the GML folks do talk about using SVG as a presentation layer. You may want to contact some of the GML folks if you don't get a better answer here. Ron Lake is one of the main guys for GML. Cheers, Martin. On 6 Jul 2001, Adrian Custer wrote: > Sorry, > > could we try this again in human understandable language? DCW is a > vector format or the Digital Chart of the World? GML I assume is one of > the numerous free GIS projects and SVG must be scaled vector graphics. > XSL has to be one of the family of XML parsing/displaying/correcting > layers. > > We are many on this list, from many different fields, each with our own > pool of acronyms. Let's try to make our communication a little less > compact and a little more portable. Thanks. > > And ideally, you might give us an idea of what you are hoping to do and > why. I probably won't join you now but if you are still working in six > months and I understand what you are doing, I might join. > > ciao, > adrian > > > On 06 Jul 2001 16:55:11 +0200, Denny wrote: > > Hi > > > > We've made some progress in transforming DCW to GML...now we're looking > > for an XSL to transform the data to SVG... > > > > Anyone else have interest in this? Know anything about it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Reddy SRI International, AI Center Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 reddy at ai.sri.com Tel : (650) 859-6468 http://www.martinreddy.net/ Fax : (650) 859-3735 From adoyle at intl-interfaces.com Fri Jul 6 19:00:04 2001 From: adoyle at intl-interfaces.com (Allan Doyle) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] anybody out there playing with GML and SVG? References: Message-ID: <3B45EE94.D1B52294@intl-interfaces.com> There's an Apache-licensed set of Java tools on sourceforge that provide an API for manipulating GML. There are also some tools for converting TIGER/Line data to GML at http://www.gmlcentral.com/tiger as well as tools that will generate SVG from the resulting files. (Note that www.gmlcentral.com still has a page pointing you back to Galdos.com) DCW is Digital Chart of the World and is available in VPF (Vector Product Format). There are numerous VPF tools out there. OpenMap (http://openmap.bbn.com) has some Java code that can read VPF. Martin Reddy wrote: > > GML is the Geographic Markup Language, an XML-based format for representing > geographic features that is being developed by the OpenGIS Consortium. The > GML 2.0 spec is available at: > > http://www.opengis.org/techno/specs.htm > > Don't know of any stylesheets to convert to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics, an > W3C candidate recommendation for representing 2D grahics in XML), although > the GML folks do talk about using SVG as a presentation layer. You may want > to contact some of the GML folks if you don't get a better answer here. Ron > Lake is one of the main guys for GML. > > Cheers, > > Martin. > > On 6 Jul 2001, Adrian Custer wrote: > > Sorry, > > > > could we try this again in human understandable language? DCW is a > > vector format or the Digital Chart of the World? GML I assume is one of > > the numerous free GIS projects and SVG must be scaled vector graphics. > > XSL has to be one of the family of XML parsing/displaying/correcting > > layers. > > > > We are many on this list, from many different fields, each with our own > > pool of acronyms. Let's try to make our communication a little less > > compact and a little more portable. Thanks. > > > > And ideally, you might give us an idea of what you are hoping to do and > > why. I probably won't join you now but if you are still working in six > > months and I understand what you are doing, I might join. > > > > ciao, > > adrian > > > > > > On 06 Jul 2001 16:55:11 +0200, Denny wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > We've made some progress in transforming DCW to GML...now we're looking > > > for an XSL to transform the data to SVG... > > > > > > Anyone else have interest in this? Know anything about it? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freegis-list mailing list > > Freegis-list at intevation.de > > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Martin Reddy SRI International, AI Center > Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 > reddy at ai.sri.com Tel : (650) 859-6468 > http://www.martinreddy.net/ Fax : (650) 859-3735 > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Allan Doyle adoyle at intl-interfaces.com International Interfaces +1 781 433 2695 (Office) http://www.intl-interfaces.com +1 781 254 9484 (Mobile/Voicemail) From adoyle at intl-interfaces.com Fri Jul 6 19:08:43 2001 From: adoyle at intl-interfaces.com (Allan Doyle) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] anybody out there playing with GML and SVG? References: <3B45EE94.D1B52294@intl-interfaces.com> Message-ID: <3B45F09B.87A5D66E@intl-interfaces.com> Allan Doyle wrote: > > There's an Apache-licensed set of Java tools on sourceforge that > provide an API for manipulating GML. Sorry - I forgot the important part: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gml4j/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Jul 9 12:36:53 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:36:53 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] now only members can post Message-ID: <20010709123653.C9296@intevation.de> this is to reduce the annoying spams that occured recently. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From paul at toolscenter.org Mon Jul 9 12:44:49 2001 From: paul at toolscenter.org (Paul Selormey) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:44:49 +0900 Subject: [Freegis-list] now only members can post References: <20010709123653.C9296@intevation.de> Message-ID: <000201c10869$25f7f540$700201c0@nsepaul> > this is to reduce the annoying spams that > occured recently. Thank you. Paul. From jan at intevation.de Mon Jul 9 13:42:32 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:42:32 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] now only members can post In-Reply-To: ; from WHarms@bfs.de on Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:54:44PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20010709134232.A9999@intevation.de> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:54:44PM +0100, Walter Harms wrote: > please make sure that ordinary ppl can still send questions etc. > unfortunaly some mailing-list requiere membership even when you want to post a bug report. people are able to send emails, but the postings will wait for approval by myself. There was a spam filter before, but it did no catch all of the spams. So just a filter is not efficient enough. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From reddy at AI.SRI.COM Mon Jul 9 17:08:43 2001 From: reddy at AI.SRI.COM (Martin Reddy) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:08:43 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] now only members can post In-Reply-To: <20010709134232.A9999@intevation.de> Message-ID: Hi Jan, We suffered the same spam problem on the GeoVRML list. We moved list to the listar manager and required that only members of the list can post to the list - if a member posts, then it goes directly through with no approval required. If a non-member posts, then the administrator gets the message and can approve or deny the post. This has proven very successful so far. It may be a less burdensome solution than having to approve every post (perhaps this is what you meant below, just thought I'd mention it though). Cheers, Martin. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:54:44PM +0100, Walter Harms wrote: > > please make sure that ordinary ppl can still send questions etc. > > unfortunaly some mailing-list requiere membership even when you want to post a bug report. > > people are able to send emails, but the postings will wait for approval > by myself. There was a spam filter before, but it did no catch > all of the spams. So just a filter is not efficient enough. > > Jan > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Reddy SRI International, AI Center Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 reddy at ai.sri.com Tel : (650) 859-6468 http://www.martinreddy.net/ Fax : (650) 859-3735 From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 10 09:59:07 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:59:07 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] now only members can post In-Reply-To: ; from reddy@AI.SRI.COM on Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 08:08:43AM -0700 References: <20010709134232.A9999@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010710095907.A14522@intevation.de> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 08:08:43AM -0700, Martin Reddy wrote: > We suffered the same spam problem on the GeoVRML list. We moved list to the > listar manager and required that only members of the list can post to the > list - if a member posts, then it goes directly through with no approval > required. If a non-member posts, then the administrator gets the message and > can approve or deny the post. our mailman is configured in the same way. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 10 10:17:36 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:17:36 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS at GNU/LinuxTag in Stuttgart Message-ID: <20010710101736.B14522@intevation.de> The busy days at GNU/LinuxTag in Stuttgart are now over. We presented the FreeGIS project there at the Intevation booth and with a talk. Both was a great success. At the talk about 50 people were present and we had interesting questions and discussion after the talk. I think some new people are now aware of the potentials of Free GIS Software and the GI problem outside USA. At our booth we presented the FreeGIS site and several free GIS tools of which the web mapping applications MapServer and MapIt! were the ones that recveived the largest interest. We distributed some FreeGIS CDs (this time also in the sense of free beer :-). Accidently one CD-case contained a fresh CD without any data. Unfortunately it was the one I gave to Jon Maddog Hall and he desperately tried to find out about our filesystem type that night ... Well, the next day he received another CD and it works fine :-) Jon will help us to promote Free GIS software on GNU/Linux. His voice is heard at many places where ours might be too thin. Now back we will prepare an update of the FreeGIS CD and implement some long-awaited improvements to the FreeGIS site. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 10 11:34:48 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:34:48 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] new entry: DEMViewer Message-ID: <20010710113448.A15218@intevation.de> DEMViewer http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/ DEMViewer (written in Java) is a digital elevation model viewer for ArcGrid ASCII export files. With DEMViewer you can visualize digital elevation models generated by ArcInfo and combine it with datas (in the same ArcGrid ASCII export format and/or Jpeg/Gif images). License: GPL -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 10 11:47:55 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:47:55 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] new entry: Feral Message-ID: <20010710114755.D15218@intevation.de> Feral http://www.stauber.org/ Feral is a map projection and datum transformation utility. It is implemented in C, binaries for MS platforms are also available. Version: 0.901 alpha License: GPL -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 10 12:09:37 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] new entry: gml4j Message-ID: <20010710120937.B15386@intevation.de> GML4J http://gml4j.sourceforge.net/ GML4J is a Java API for facilitating work with the Geography Markup Language. GML is an XML-based framework for encoding geography information adopted as a recommendation paper by OGC. Version: 1.01 beta License: Apache -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Thu Jul 12 17:20:17 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:20:17 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] GPSMan updated Message-ID: <20010712172017.A4248@intevation.de> GPSMan updated from revision 5.3.1 to 5.4. GPSMan: GPS Manager http://www.ncc.up.pt/~mig/gpsman.html GPS Manager (GPSMan) is a graphical manager of GPS data that makes possible the preparation, inspection and edition of GPS data in a friendly environment. GPSMan supports communication with both Garmin and Lowrance receivers. Version: 5.4 License: GPL list of changes is attached. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: mig at ncc.up.pt (Miguel Filgueiras) Subject: no subject Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:47:19 +0100 (WEST) Size: 7145 Url: http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20010712/a99fca01/attachment.txt From dmccoy at cityofsacramento.org Mon Jul 16 19:28:41 2001 From: dmccoy at cityofsacramento.org (Dan McCoy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:28:41 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] CAVOR Message-ID: Here's a snippet from http://www.cavor.org/ that I ran across on Sourceforge ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/cavor ): "CAVOR is an engine for building applications that involve modeling and retrieving graphical and textual data. Examples of such applications include GIS (geographic information systems), mapping programs, CAD (computer aided design/drafting), as well as less-obvious applications as project management (consider PERT charts, etc), CASE (computer aided software engineering) tools (DFDs, ERDs, etc.), and probably others that haven't even occurred to me." They have a link to Freegis, but I didn't see anything about Cavor there. Dan From ted at foi.se Tue Jul 17 13:40:10 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:40:10 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 Message-ID: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> Hello! I have just bought the FreeGIS 1.1 CD. I am planning to install the tools available on this CD on my RedHat 7.1 machines. I am interested in this CD by the source codes AND especially by the .spec files to regenerate and update the binaries by myself. I have a problem with Grass5 (the first one I tried) as it is packed for the moment. Everything is put under /opt/grass and I don't have enough place on my / directory to get the whole stuff installed. Besides, I prefer to have things installed under /usr. I was planning to modify the .spec file, replacing prefix=/opt/grass by prefix=/usr, but I discovered the existence of the following directories: %dir /opt/grass/grass5 %dir /opt/grass/grass5/bin %dir /opt/grass/grass5/documents %dir /opt/grass/grass5/documents/html %dir /opt/grass/grass5/driver %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc/bin %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc/bin/cmd %dir /opt/grass/grass5/man %dir /opt/grass/grass5/man/man1 %dir /opt/grass/grass5/tcltkgrass %dir /opt/grass/grass5/tcltkgrass/module I think that to stick to the RedHat 7.1 structure some of these directories should be moved around (man, bin? etc?...). Unfortunately, I don't really know how they are interacting with each others and how I could with the ./configure options, get something clean and usable. I tried --with-fssntd=redhat but it did not work. Could you please help me and tell me what these directories countain, where they would be stored on a RedHat machine and how ./configure should be parametrized in this spirit. Thanks in advance Daniel Tourde -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 17 14:12:40 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:12:40 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] CAVOR In-Reply-To: ; from dmccoy@cityofsacramento.org on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:28:41AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010717141240.B10322@intevation.de> On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:28:41AM -0700, Dan McCoy wrote: > They have a link to Freegis, but I didn't see anything about Cavor there. Thanks for the hint. I have added Cavor to FreeGIS: Cavor http://www.cavor.org/ CAVOR is an engine for building applications that involve modeling and retrieving graphical and textual data. Examples of such applications include GIS, CAD and several others. The Cavor Vector Viewer (CVV) might be of interest for GIS users. Version: 0.1.0 License: GPL/LGPL Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Andreas.Lange at Rhein-Main.de Tue Jul 17 14:51:15 2001 From: Andreas.Lange at Rhein-Main.de (Andreas Lange) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:51:15 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> Message-ID: <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> Hi Daniel, i once tried to build a re-locatable GRASS rpm. But this does not work right now, there are internal requirements of GRASS that prevent this (e. g. hardcoded paths in driver setup files). It will not be possible to put the man etc. directories under the fssntd locations, as all these directories must reside under the grass main directory for the grass modules to be able to find the files. Please look at the sources and documentation of grass to find out more. Why not creating a setup with symbolic links? Link your /opt residing under / to /usr/opt and move over any directories already there. HTH, Andreas Daniel Tourde wrote: > > Hello! > > I have just bought the FreeGIS 1.1 CD. I am planning to install the > tools available on this CD on my RedHat 7.1 machines. I am interested in > this CD by the source codes AND especially by the .spec files to > regenerate and update the binaries by myself. > > I have a problem with Grass5 (the first one I tried) as it is packed for > the moment. Everything is put under /opt/grass and I don't have enough > place on my / directory to get the whole stuff installed. Besides, I > prefer to have things installed under /usr. I was planning to modify the > .spec file, replacing prefix=/opt/grass by prefix=/usr, but I discovered > the existence of the following directories: > > %dir /opt/grass/grass5 > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/bin > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/documents > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/documents/html > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/driver > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc/bin > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/etc/bin/cmd > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/man > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/man/man1 > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/tcltkgrass > %dir /opt/grass/grass5/tcltkgrass/module > > I think that to stick to the RedHat 7.1 structure some of these > directories should be moved around (man, bin? etc?...). Unfortunately, I > don't really know how they are interacting with each others and how I > could with the ./configure options, get something clean and usable. I > tried --with-fssntd=redhat but it did not work. > > Could you please help me and tell me what these directories countain, > where they would be stored on a RedHat machine and how ./configure > should be parametrized in this spirit. > > Thanks in advance > > Daniel Tourde > > -- > *********************************************************************** > Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se > Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 > FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA > Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research > SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 > *********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- Andreas Lange, 65187 Wiesbaden, Germany, Tel. +49 611 807850 Andreas.Lange at Rhein-Main.de - A.C.Lange at GMX.net From ted at foi.se Tue Jul 17 15:12:23 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:12:23 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> Message-ID: <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> Hi Andreas, > i once tried to build a re-locatable GRASS rpm. But this does not work > right now, there are internal requirements of GRASS that prevent this > (e. g. hardcoded paths in driver setup files). But Grass5 been still a beta version, wouldn't it be nice to make it freely relocatable? RedHat is not such an uncommon distribution and I am sure I am not the only one willing to have a clean RPM for this distribution. Mandrake uses also RPMs and other ones... An RPM that would compile correctly, install at once cleanly and work smoothly without having to hack and fix parameters here and there would be great. > It will not be possible to put the man etc. directories under the fssntd > locations, as all these directories must reside under the grass main > directory for the grass modules to be able to find the files. Please > look at the sources and documentation of grass to find out more. OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr would create problems? > Why not creating a setup with symbolic links? Link your /opt residing > under / to /usr/opt and move over any directories already there. Yes but this is exactly the kind of things I want to avoid. I don't want to modify /etc files to add paths here and there. I have several machines, I upgrade them regularly and RedHat has a tendency to move things around (documentation for instance). This would be a pain in the ass to be forced to hack and check again and again every 6 months. I definitely prefer RPMs sticking to the RedHat structure when they are recompiled. Daniel -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Jul 17 16:06:48 2001 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:06:48 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 In-Reply-To: <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se>; from ted@foi.se on Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 03:12:23PM +0200 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> Message-ID: <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 03:12:23PM +0200, Daniel Tourde wrote: > > i once tried to build a re-locatable GRASS rpm. But this does not work > > right now, there are internal requirements of GRASS that prevent this > > (e. g. hardcoded paths in driver setup files). > > But Grass5 been still a beta version, wouldn't it be nice to make it > freely relocatable? Yes it would be nice. However I am not sure it can be done easily. Details should probably be discussed on the grass5 development list. http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/grass/grassdevel.html > RedHat is not such an uncommon distribution and I am > sure I am not the only one willing to have a clean RPM for this > distribution. Mandrake uses also RPMs and other ones... An RPM that > would compile correctly, install at once cleanly and work smoothly > without having to hack and fix parameters here and there would be great. We from Intevation are constantly trying to improve the rpms and we welcome any help and suggestions with this. IIRC /opt is the right place to install optional packages like GRASS according to the LSB which requires FHS 2.2. > OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr > would create problems? Yes. > > Why not creating a setup with symbolic links? Link your /opt residing > > under / to /usr/opt and move over any directories already there. > > Yes but this is exactly the kind of things I want to avoid. I don't want > to modify /etc files to add paths here and there. If you have additional application packages installed, you would need to incoporate the /opt directory anyway. And the /opt was designed to be on a different partition then / . > I have several > machines, I upgrade them regularly and RedHat has a tendency to move > things around (documentation for instance). This would be a pain in the > ass to be forced to hack and check again and again every 6 months. I > definitely prefer RPMs sticking to the RedHat structure when they are > recompiled. I can understand this. We are working hard to get usable rpms for the common distributions for the Freegis CD. It looks GRASS packageing will continue to have minor flaws in the future due to the nature of GRASS. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20010717/bc2ca74f/attachment.bin From ted at foi.se Tue Jul 17 16:36:29 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:36:29 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3B544D6C.53771C9A@foi.se> Hi Bernhard, Thanks for your answer. > > > i once tried to build a re-locatable GRASS rpm. But this does not work > > > right now, there are internal requirements of GRASS that prevent this > > > (e. g. hardcoded paths in driver setup files). > > > > But Grass5 been still a beta version, wouldn't it be nice to make it > > freely relocatable? > > Yes it would be nice. > However I am not sure it can be done easily. > Details should probably be discussed on the grass5 development list. > http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/grass/grassdevel.html I am going to take a look at it. > > RedHat is not such an uncommon distribution and I am > > sure I am not the only one willing to have a clean RPM for this > > distribution. Mandrake uses also RPMs and other ones... An RPM that > > would compile correctly, install at once cleanly and work smoothly > > without having to hack and fix parameters here and there would be great. > > We from Intevation are constantly trying to improve the rpms > and we welcome any help and suggestions with this. > IIRC /opt is the right place to install optional packages like GRASS > according to the LSB which requires FHS 2.2. I am going to read it carefully. I am more used to the RedHat structure, where everything is put under /usr. I must admit that I kinda like it... :) > > OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr > > would create problems? > > Yes. Aha! So using prefix=/usr could cause problems. This is not very practical and this can lead to misunderstanding. > > > Why not creating a setup with symbolic links? Link your /opt residing > > > under / to /usr/opt and move over any directories already there. > > > > Yes but this is exactly the kind of things I want to avoid. I don't want > > to modify /etc files to add paths here and there. > > If you have additional application packages installed, you would > need to incoporate the /opt directory anyway. And the /opt was > designed to be on a different partition then / . Yes I know but because I never got any program using /opt, I did not create any dedicated large partition for /opt. I left it under / (/usr, /var and /tmp are separated partitions) and I decided to limit the / partition to 100Mb. > > I have several > > machines, I upgrade them regularly and RedHat has a tendency to move > > things around (documentation for instance). This would be a pain in the > > ass to be forced to hack and check again and again every 6 months. I > > definitely prefer RPMs sticking to the RedHat structure when they are > > recompiled. > > I can understand this. > We are working hard to get usable rpms for the common distributions > for the Freegis CD. It looks GRASS packageing will continue to have minor > flaws in the future due to the nature of GRASS. I know you are working hard and I am happy with the CD I bought. I just wanted to mention my reaction as a RedHat Linux user and administrator about the Grass package. I know, my case is particular but I think many people (and administrators) are thinking and acting like me: simplicity is the keyword. I don't know the internal structure of Grass but I think relocation of programs is a fairly common (and wished) feature (UNIX rules Windows sucks.... ) and, without entering in the debate of FHS 2.2 or not FHS 2.2, this would be nice to have "Distribution traditions aware RPMs", something that would use the option --fsstnd= option. Daniel -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From ted at foi.se Tue Jul 17 16:46:03 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:46:03 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3B544FAB.56FEC24B@foi.se> Hello again! > > OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr > > would create problems? > > Yes. Does this problem affect the other packages on the FreeGIS CD? Daniel -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 17 17:12:45 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:12:45 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 In-Reply-To: <3B544FAB.56FEC24B@foi.se>; from ted@foi.se on Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:46:03PM +0200 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> <3B544FAB.56FEC24B@foi.se> Message-ID: <20010717171245.A11978@intevation.de> Hello Daniel, thank you very much for your hints. On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 04:46:03PM +0200, Daniel Tourde wrote: > > > OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr > > > would create problems? > > > > Yes. > > Does this problem affect the other packages on the FreeGIS CD? for the next (minor) release of the CD we will consider the relocation aspect for all packages. We'll see for which ones it can/will work and we will add infos on this in the documentation. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From ted at foi.se Tue Jul 17 17:04:00 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:04:00 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> <3B544FAB.56FEC24B@foi.se> <20010717171245.A11978@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3B5453E0.AC3781C1@foi.se> Hi Jan-Oliver, > thank you very much for your hints. You are welcome. It's me who thank you for the job you are doing. > > > > OK. Are you telling me that simply changing from /opt/grass to /usr > > > > would create problems? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > Does this problem affect the other packages on the FreeGIS CD? > > for the next (minor) release of the CD we will consider > the relocation aspect for all packages. > We'll see for which ones it can/will work and we will > add infos on this in the documentation. OK. Please keep me in touch and tell me when this will happen. Will it be possible to download the new packages or would I have to buy a new CD then? Daniel -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Tue Jul 17 23:39:48 2001 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:39:48 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] new entry: DEMViewer Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530B1C26FD@raptor.gov.yk.ca> If anybody knows how to get DEMViewer working on Win32 please let me know. Thanks, -matt ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Wilkie * Yukon Renewable Resources GIS http://renres.gov.yk.ca/pubs/rrgis/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan-Oliver Wagner [mailto:jan at intevation.de] > Sent: 2001 July 10 02:35 > To: FreeGIS Mailing List > Subject: [Freegis-list] new entry: DEMViewer > > > DEMViewer http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/ > DEMViewer (written in Java) is a digital elevation > model viewer for ArcGrid ASCII export files. > With DEMViewer you can visualize digital elevation > models generated by ArcInfo and combine it with datas > (in the same ArcGrid ASCII export format and/or > Jpeg/Gif images). > License: GPL > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list > From jan at intevation.de Wed Jul 18 09:34:41 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:34:41 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] ossim updates to 1.0 Message-ID: <20010718093441.A16253@intevation.de> the Open Source Software Image Map (OSSIM) is now available in version 1.0. Download of rpms at: ftp://ftp.remotesensing.org/ossim/ The website is currently empty, but probably will be back again soon. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Wed Jul 18 12:41:49 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:41:49 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS on RedHat 7.1 In-Reply-To: <3B5453E0.AC3781C1@foi.se>; from ted@foi.se on Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 05:04:00PM +0200 References: <3B54241A.A5AE54DC@foi.se> <3B5434C3.6414A924@Rhein-Main.de> <3B5439B7.713896F3@foi.se> <20010717160648.C10795@intevation.de> <3B544FAB.56FEC24B@foi.se> <20010717171245.A11978@intevation.de> <3B5453E0.AC3781C1@foi.se> Message-ID: <20010718124149.D17391@intevation.de> On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 05:04:00PM +0200, Daniel Tourde wrote: > OK. Please keep me in touch and tell me when this will happen. Will it > be possible to download the new packages or would I have to buy a new CD > then? all packages of the FreeGIS CD as well as the iso-images are available via ftp. There is also an update directory with updated packages referring to the latest CD. Fortunately there are (quite a few) mirrors now: ftp://intevation.de/mirrors.txt Hope we will have many more in the future. The mirrors master is: ftp://intevation.de/freegis/ However, each ordered CD will encourage and help us to continue the FreeGIS/FreeGIS CD service :-) Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Wed Jul 18 16:16:13 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:16:13 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Categories for search or browse on freegis.org Message-ID: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> Dear all, this monday Heiko has joined the FreeGIS team for the rest of the year. We plan to work on the following three topics (in the given order): 1. improve the freegis.org site with improved browse and search opportunities including several other changes. 2. release an updated version 1.1.1 of the FreeGIS CD. 3. write a tutorial for performing typical GIS operations with free GIS products (initial version in German, translations would be nice). Of course the tutorial will be under FDL :-) We already started with the first topic. The FreeGIS site should offer search via several kinds of categories similar to, but not the same as freshmeat.net. Each entry may belong to one or more categories. We want to start with three categories of which the first is the most important one: Application type Operating system Programming language We defined a set of categories (see below) for the application type. We would be happy if you could comment upon it, hint on errors or missing categories. Thanks Jan Application type ---------------- Base GIS Applications that provide basic processing routines for geo-data. Among basics there are geo-referencing, buffering and blending. Visualisation Programs that generate (usually multi-dimensional) presentations of the given geo-data, enabling visual and other data analysis. Interactive Viewing Applications to interactively explore geo-data. GPS Programms for realtime-analysis, processing, and visualisation of gps-data. GPS is the acronym for Global Positioning System. With GPS you are able to locate yourself in a 3-dimensional system by means of bow-beats to at least 3 satelites. Common used systems are navstar-pgs (USA), glonass (GUS) and in near future gallileo (EU). Remote Sensing Programs that process, analyse and present data obtained via remote sensing. Remote Sensing is a touch-free satellite- air- or earth-based aktive (radar, laserscanning, sonar, ...) or passive (photo, infrared-image, digital-image) observation method. Web Mapping Web Mapping applications offer to present maps (vektor and/or raster) interactively on the web (ie. via http). Typical base functions are zooming and scrolling the map (navigating the map) as well as map-anchored hyperlinks (URLs) and object identification. Geo-Data Geographic data packages. Geo-Data covers data explaining objects, land shapes and infrastructure at the surface of the earth, including a spatial information. Flights Tools for realising free or predefined flights over digital terrain models. File-format Conversion Tools that convert form one file format for geo-data to one or many others. Projection Conversion Tools and applications for transfering geo-data from one into another projection. A projection is the visualisation of a point in n - dimensions onto a point of lesser dimension, e.g. 3 or 4 dimensions. The projections can be orthographic, stereographic, equal area, equal angle, equal distance and many more. Customizable with Add-ons Packages/Applications that support adding custom applications on-top (e.g. various kinds of geo-data based simulations such as floods, run-off, clouds, etc). Misc/Fun Anything not fitting into the other categories or related to 'fun with GIS'. -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Wed Jul 18 18:00:34 2001 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] Solution: DEMViewer on Win32 Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530B1C292A@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Previously I asked if anybody knew how to get DEMViewer (http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/) working on Windows. After a few hours I managed to work it out for myself on Win2k though no doubt there are other perhaps cleaner methods. 1) Download the packages: DEMViewer source code: http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/demv_src.jar (I just could not get the compiled version to work, maybe because of missing files?) DEMViewer sample ArcGrid ascii file: http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/andes16k.dgm Compiled VisAD jar file: ftp://www.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/visad-2.0/visad.jar (I couldn't get the source code to compile, probably because of my own ignorance :). *Java 2 SDK, v1.3.1: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/download-windows.html *Java3D for Windows (OpenGL verison) SDK for the JDK: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/3D/download.html * if you are using IE5.5sp1 answer "Open from current location" -twice-, then "Save to disk" or else you'll get a nonsensical html file. 2) Install the Java2 SDK, then the Java3D SDK. (In previous battles I had uninstalled all previously installed Java Runtime Environment (JRE) versions. Dunno if that was necessary or not) 3) Fire up a cmd shell and: > set path=c:\jdk1.3.1\bin;%path% > md c:\dev-apps\DEMV > cd c:\dev-apps\DEMV > copy c:\downloads\visad.jar > copy c:\downloads\dem_src.jar > jar xvf demv_src.jar > cd src > set CLASSPATH=../visad.jar;. > for %a in (*.java) do javac %a and you are done! Run DEMViewer with: > java DEMViewer c:\downloads\andes16k.dgm Note that in future cmd shell sessions you will have to enter the the path and classpath set statements again (using the java commandline option '-classpath ../visad.jar;.' did not work for me) and run DEMViewer from the src directory. It is a memory pig. A grid with 1321x1270 rows and columns ran out of memory with 200mb allocated (using 'java -mx200mb'). 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Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Wed Jul 18 19:25:50 2001 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:25:50 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] Solution: DEMViewer on Win32 Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D07530B1C2A0F@raptor.gov.yk.ca> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:00:34AM -0700, Matt.Wilkie wrote: > > Previously I asked if anybody knew how to get DEMViewer > > (http://www.geogr.uni-jena.de/~p6taug/demviewer/) > > working on Windows. After a few hours I managed to work it > > out for myself on Win2k though no doubt there are other > > perhaps cleaner methods. > > Good job! > Can you inform the author as well? Heh. As I matter of fact I did. However it definately pays to be a little less hasty and more methodical. Below is what happened when I tried to build a transcript of my problems with the compiled version for the author, Ugo Taddei: -------------8<------------- Hi Ugo, Ugo> Hum... s. below, but in case your problem won't be solved, Ugo> would be helpful if you sent me the error message. I cc'd you a message ealier which detailed how I manage to get DV to work from source code. This one is about the error messages with the compiled version. The errors were along the lines of "Exception in thread ... No classdef found ... DEMViewer". -host system is Win2ksp1 -Java2 SDK 1.3.1 and Java3d SDK are installed In a CMD shell: > md c:\temp\demv > cd c:\temp\demv > copy \downloads\demv_bin.jar > copy \downloads\visad.jar > set path=c:\jdk1.3.1\bin;%path% > jar xvf demv_bin.jar created: META-INF/ extracted: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF extracted: bin/DEMViewer$1.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$10.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$11.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$2.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$3.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$4.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$5.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$6.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$7.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$8.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer$9.class extracted: bin/DEMViewer.class extracted: bin/Tokenizer.class extracted: bin/XArcGridReader.class > set classpath=c:\temp\demv\visad.jar;c:\temp\demv\bin > java DEMViewer Ooops! Usage: dgm3d elevation_raster attribute_raster_1 attribute_raster_ where "raster_1 or 2" are valid ArcGrid files or Raster 1 or 2 is optionally a Jpeg or Gif file ...Q#$%@#%!!... it works now. I think must have been entering an incomplete/wrong classpath before. L:} Well, I'll leave the sequence here for posterity. Thanks again for your time, -matt ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Wilkie * Yukon Renewable Resources GIS http://renres.gov.yk.ca/pubs/rrgis/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------->8------------- From sylvain_duclos at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 17:19:23 2001 From: sylvain_duclos at yahoo.com (s duclos) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Freegis-list] Categories for search or browse on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jan, You might want to check the IOC/UNESCO site IODE on Marine GIS where you can find a bunch of stuff that could be relevant/inspiring to your endeavour; -- GIS tutorial (starting from square one) -- free sofware (some GPL'ed) -- data -- ... http://ioc.unesco.org/oceanteacher/resourcekit/ Cheers, Sylvain. --- Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > Dear all, > > this monday Heiko has > joined the FreeGIS team for the rest of the > year. > > We plan to work on the following three > topics (in the given order): > > 1. improve the freegis.org site with > improved browse and search > opportunities including several > other changes. > > 2. release an updated version 1.1.1 > of the FreeGIS CD. > > 3. write a tutorial for performing > typical GIS operations with > free GIS products (initial version > in German, translations would be nice). > Of course the tutorial will be under > FDL :-) > > We already started with the first topic. > The FreeGIS site should offer search > via several kinds of categories similar to, > but not the same as freshmeat.net. > Each entry may belong to one or > more categories. > > We want to start with three > categories of which the first > is the most important one: > > Application type > Operating system > Programming language > > We defined a set of categories > (see below) for the application type. > We would be happy if you > could comment upon it, hint on errors > or missing categories. > > Thanks > > Jan > > Application type > ---------------- > > Base GIS > > Applications that provide basic processing > routines for geo-data. > > Among basics there are geo-referencing, > buffering and blending. > > > Visualisation > > Programs that generate (usually > multi-dimensional) presentations of > the given geo-data, enabling visual > and other data analysis. > > > Interactive Viewing > > Applications to interactively > explore geo-data. > > > GPS > > Programms for realtime-analysis, processing, and > visualisation of gps-data. > > GPS is the acronym for Global Positioning System. > With GPS you are able to locate yourself in a > 3-dimensional > system by means of bow-beats to at least 3 > satelites. > Common used systems are navstar-pgs (USA), glonass > (GUS) > and in near future gallileo (EU). > > > Remote Sensing > > Programs that process, analyse and present > data obtained via remote sensing. > > Remote Sensing is a touch-free satellite- air- or > earth-based > aktive (radar, laserscanning, sonar, ...) or > passive > (photo, infrared-image, digital-image) observation > method. > > > Web Mapping > > Web Mapping applications offer to present maps > (vektor and/or raster) interactively on the web > (ie. via http). > > Typical base functions are zooming and scrolling > the map > (navigating the map) as well as map-anchored > hyperlinks (URLs) and > object identification. > > > Geo-Data > > Geographic data packages. > > Geo-Data covers data explaining objects, > land shapes and infrastructure at > the surface of the earth, including a spatial > information. > > > Flights > > Tools for realising free or predefined flights over > digital terrain models. > > > File-format Conversion > > Tools that convert form one file format for > geo-data > to one or many others. > > > Projection Conversion > > Tools and applications for transfering geo-data > from > one into another projection. > > A projection is the visualisation of a point in > n - dimensions onto a point of lesser dimension, > e.g. 3 or 4 dimensions. > The projections can be orthographic, stereographic, > equal area, equal angle, equal distance and many > more. > > > Customizable with Add-ons > > Packages/Applications that support adding > custom applications on-top (e.g. various kinds > of geo-data based simulations such as > floods, run-off, clouds, etc). > > > Misc/Fun > > Anything not fitting into the other categories > or related to 'fun with GIS'. > -- > Jan-Oliver Wagner > http://intevation.de/~jan/ > > Intevation GmbH > http://intevation.de/ > FreeGIS > http://freegis.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Jul 19 17:39:04 2001 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:39:04 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Categories for search or browse on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com>; from sylvain_duclos@yahoo.com on Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM -0700 References: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010719173904.P26630@intevation.de> Thanks for the hint. It looks like it is some work to evaluate the software links there as it is not easy to find out if it is free software or not. Bernhard On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM -0700, s duclos wrote: > You might want to check the IOC/UNESCO site IODE on > Marine GIS where you can find a bunch of stuff > that could be relevant/inspiring to your endeavour; > -- GIS tutorial (starting from square one) > -- free sofware (some GPL'ed) > -- data > -- ... > > http://ioc.unesco.org/oceanteacher/resourcekit/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20010719/c67627ff/attachment.bin From joe at digiserve.ie Fri Jul 20 13:28:00 2001 From: joe at digiserve.ie (Joe Desbonnet) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:28:00 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Java moving map software for PDAs? References: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> <20010719173904.P26630@intevation.de> Message-ID: <3B5815C0.13525190@digiserve.ie> > Before I go and write one I was wondering if anyone has come across an open source Java application/applet to implement moving maps on a PDA with a connected GPS receiver. I recently bought a Compaq iPaq handheld and I would like to have this capability. I know there is a Python program called PyGPS (?), but I'm currently experimenting with the Java option as I would like to have the option to run the software with either Wince or Linux installed on the device. Also can anyone think of interesting applications for a PDA + GPS + maybe IEEE 802.11 or Bluetooth networking? Joe. From bernhard at intevation.de Fri Jul 20 14:57:19 2001 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:57:19 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Java moving map software for PDAs? In-Reply-To: <3B5815C0.13525190@digiserve.ie>; from joe@digiserve.ie on Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:28:00PM +0100 References: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> <20010719173904.P26630@intevation.de> <3B5815C0.13525190@digiserve.ie> Message-ID: <20010720145719.E32285@intevation.de> On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Joe Desbonnet wrote: > Before I go and write one I was wondering if anyone has come across > an open source Java application/applet to implement moving maps > on a PDA with a connected GPS receiver. I am not aware of specialised free software application for this. Maybe openmap or geotools prodive a good basis to construct a solution for this. > I recently bought a Compaq iPaq handheld and I would like to have > this capability. I know there is a Python program called PyGPS (?), > but I'm currently experimenting with the Java option as I would like > to have the option to run the software with either Wince or Linux > installed on the device. Python might even be more portable than Java, you can of course run Python apps on windows operating systems. I do not know about windowsce though. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) FSF Europe (fsfeurope.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are many more improvements in my queue. Please add further or make some bubble up! :-) Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From dietrick at bbn.com Sat Jul 21 20:19:20 2001 From: dietrick at bbn.com (Don Dietrick) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:19:20 -0400 Subject: [Freegis-list] Re: Freegis-list digest, Vol 1 #209 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20010721100102.389D6139F0@mailman.intevation.de> Message-ID: <200107211818.OAA23355@po1.bbn.com> On Saturday, July 21, 2001, at 06:01 AM, freegis-list- request at intevation.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Joe Desbonnet wrote: >> Before I go and write one I was wondering if anyone has come across >> an open source Java application/applet to implement moving maps >> on a PDA with a connected GPS receiver. > > I am not aware of specialised free software application for this. > Maybe openmap or geotools prodive a good basis to construct a > solution for this For OpenMap, it would depend on the java environment running on the device - OpenMap currently requires Java 1.2 and Swing, which probably isn't supported on a PDA. We think there is an older version of OpenMap that we can put out of the archives that might run on PDAs, but haven't had the support to dust it off and get it working again in a Java *lite* environment. Geotools will run in a Java 1.1 environment, so that might be a more viable option. - Don =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Donald F. Dietrick, dietrick at bbn.com BBN Technologies, 10 Moulton Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 617.873.3031 FAX 2794 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From jan at intevation.de Mon Jul 23 09:44:44 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:44:44 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] PostGIS 0.5 Released Message-ID: <20010723094444.A20574@intevation.de> see the attached email on the new release of PostGIS. There seem to be continous work on PostGIS evolving to a solution comparable to SDE, etc. PostGIS homepage: http://postgis.refractions.net/ Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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(der masstab von den aufnahmen ist bekannt) danke! gr?sse, raimund From jan at intevation.de Tue Jul 24 15:59:23 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:59:23 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Categories for search or browse on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de>; from jan@intevation.de on Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:16:13PM +0200 References: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010724155923.A28138@intevation.de> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:16:13PM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > The FreeGIS site should offer search > via several kinds of categories similar to, > but not the same as freshmeat.net. > Each entry may belong to one or > more categories. this browsing by category is now online. Please feel free to send comments, bug-reports etc. Currently there is only 1 entry assigned to the new categories :-) I will assign the rest as soon as possible. The old categories (application/library/converter) will be given up for they lack adequacy for a search. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From ted at foi.se Wed Jul 25 16:40:39 2001 From: ted at foi.se (Daniel Tourde) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:40:39 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Rebuild of GRASS on a RedHat 7.1 machine Message-ID: <3B5EDA67.83D5B30D@foi.se> Hi! I tried to rebuild GRASS on a RedHat 7.1 machine: rpm --rebuild GRASS-4.3-2.src.rpm causes compilation problems rpm --rebuild GRASS-5.0beta11cvs20010427p1-1.src.rpm works but when I install and desinstall the package (to check if all the files are included in the i386.rpm) and when I check the files left under /opt/grass I find these two ones: /opt/grass/grass5/dev/create_fifos.sh /opt/grass/grass5/documents/html/i.rectify.html I don't know if they have to be in the .i386.rpm packages but I just wanted to mention it. Daniel -- *********************************************************************** Daniel TOURDE E-mail : daniel.tourde at foi.se Tel : +46 8 55 50 43 44 FOI, Swedish Defence Research Agency; Aeronautics Division - FFA Dept. of Wind Energy and Aviation Environmental Research SE-172 90 Stockholm, Sweden Fax : +46 8 25 34 81 *********************************************************************** From jan at intevation.de Wed Jul 25 18:13:56 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:13:56 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] changes on freegis.org Message-ID: <20010725181356.A1994@intevation.de> Hi, I have finished assigning to the new categories. The old categories are now obsolete and removed from the entry page (where you have now just the all-software-in-one-page list). During my quick glance at all the projects I detected many updates (see the recent changes page http://freegis.org/latest.en.html). Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From acuster at nature.berkeley.edu Wed Jul 25 19:55:08 2001 From: acuster at nature.berkeley.edu (Adrian Custer) Date: 25 Jul 2001 10:55:08 -0700 Subject: [Freegis-list] changes on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <20010725181356.A1994@intevation.de> References: <20010725181356.A1994@intevation.de> Message-ID: <996083708.1227.43.camel@tsetse.lab-net> On 25 Jul 2001 18:13:56 +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > Hi, > > I have finished assigning to the new categories. > The old categories are now obsolete and removed from > the entry page (where you have now just the > all-software-in-one-page list). > > During my quick glance at all the projects I > detected many updates (see the recent changes page > http://freegis.org/latest.en.html). The site looks great. A couple of suggestions. 1) from the page you get us, there is no obvious link to the base page of the web site. The "all" link gets us there but we don't know a priori. 2) In the "all" or base view, could you include a field of "date of last release"? It would be really useful to see immediately say that gmap is basically an abandonned project. Also what determines the order of the entries? It may be the date but that would be nice to know for instance by having: ALL SOFTWARE ENTRIES (86) Sorted by date/importance/??? at the top of the page. Anyhow, it looks great. Thanks, as always for the great work, adrian From jan at intevation.de Thu Jul 26 12:50:50 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:50:50 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Categories for search or browse on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <20010719173904.P26630@intevation.de>; from bernhard@intevation.de on Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:39:04PM +0200 References: <20010718161613.A19793@intevation.de> <20010719151923.83635.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> <20010719173904.P26630@intevation.de> Message-ID: <20010726125050.D5874@intevation.de> On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 05:39:04PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > Thanks for the hint. > It looks like it is some work to evaluate the software links there > as it is not easy to find out if it is free software or not. > > Bernhard > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM -0700, s duclos wrote: > > You might want to check the IOC/UNESCO site IODE on > > Marine GIS where you can find a bunch of stuff > > that could be relevant/inspiring to your endeavour; > > -- GIS tutorial (starting from square one) > > -- free sofware (some GPL'ed) > > -- data > > -- ... > > > > http://ioc.unesco.org/oceanteacher/resourcekit/ I have send an email to the guys requesting to exhange information. It would help both. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Thu Jul 26 18:40:12 2001 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:40:12 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] changes on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <996083708.1227.43.camel@tsetse.lab-net>; from acuster@nature.berkeley.edu on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:55:08AM -0700 References: <20010725181356.A1994@intevation.de> <996083708.1227.43.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Message-ID: <20010726184012.A7800@intevation.de> On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:55:08AM -0700, Adrian Custer wrote: > 1) from the page you get us, there is no obvious link to the base page > of the web site. The "all" link gets us there but we don't know a > priori. I am still thinking about a start page for FreeGIS. It must serve a couple of points: * light-weigth (it must come up quickly) * give a short explanation on what FreeGIS is * provide useful content Especially the combination of the first and third point is the actual art of web usability design and just not easy. Suggestions welcome. > 2) In the "all" or base view, could you include a field of "date of last > release"? It would be really useful to see immediately say that gmap is > basically an abandonned project. Good idea. I added this to my queue. > Also what determines the order of the > entries? It may be the date but that would be nice to know for instance > by having: > ALL SOFTWARE ENTRIES (86) Sorted by date/importance/??? > at the top of the page. Another difficult story. Currently we have sort of importance order because alphabetically does not make sense and date might not be apropriate as well. It is on my list to offer the opportunity to switch between different ordering. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From fnievinski at cpovo.net Thu Jul 26 21:44:26 2001 From: fnievinski at cpovo.net (Felipe G. Nievinski) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:44:26 -0300 Subject: [Freegis-list] changes on freegis.org In-Reply-To: <996083708.1227.43.camel@tsetse.lab-net> References: <20010725181356.A1994@intevation.de> <996083708.1227.43.camel@tsetse.lab-net> Message-ID: <200107261644260940.002180A5@smtp.terra.com.br> On 25/07/01 at 10:55 Adrian Custer wrote: (...) >2) In the "all" or base view, could you include a field of "date of last >release"? It would be really useful to see immediately say that gmap is >basically an abandonned project. I do agree with Adrian. It would be very useful. cheers Felipe.