From WHarms at bfs.de Wed Nov 1 09:30:18 2000 From: WHarms at bfs.de (WHarms@bfs.de) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 9:30:18 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools Message-ID: hi everyone, i am looking for tools to create a GIS-useable backgrounds, e.g. germany as a map an so on. walter From neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de Wed Nov 1 18:58:22 2000 From: neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de (Markus Neteler) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:58:22 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: ; from WHarms@bfs.de on Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:30:18AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001101175822.D28998@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:30:18AM +0100, Walter Harms wrote: > > hi everyone, > i am looking for tools to create a GIS-useable backgrounds, e.g. germany as a map an so on. > Hi walter, are you looking for data or for a GIS? I am not sure... German vector data (NUTS III level) I recently found here: http://www.grid.unep.ch/datasets/gnv-data.html It's a bit tricky to understand their menu concept. After filling out a form you can download E00 data. This might be the Germany-including dataset: GNV159 - TERTIARY ADMINISTRATIVE UNITS OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (NUTS-3) Direct Data access is here: ftp://www.grid.unep.ch/pub/data/ Maybe that helps? Regards Markus Neteler From pennyb at btex.co.uk Wed Nov 1 23:13:29 2000 From: pennyb at btex.co.uk (Penny Bamborough) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 22:13:29 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] NTF to SHP converter Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101221155.037f8930@193.218.160.39> Hi, Does anyone know of a NTF to ESRI Shape file (SHP) converter ? Thanks in advance. Penny Bamborough From WHarms at bfs.de Thu Nov 2 11:24:38 2000 From: WHarms at bfs.de (WHarms@bfs.de) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:24:38 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools Message-ID: thanks for the hint, actualy i am looking for tools in the sense of software but theses maps are nice of cause :). I would like to have a tool to digitize e.g. our 1:50K maps. We have the offical top50 CD but i dont know the fileformat and it seems to be pretty useless if you dont have the (expensive) professional version. btw: I try to plot a bunch of data collect from all over germany using GMT what does the geo. department in hannover use ? walter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Markus Neteler Subject: Re: [Freegis-list] Tools Date: 11/01/00 18:58 On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:30:18AM +0100, Walter Harms wrote: > > hi everyone, > i am looking for tools to create a GIS-useable backgrounds, e.g. germany as a map an so on. > Hi walter, are you looking for data or for a GIS? I am not sure... German vector data (NUTS III level) I recently found here: http://www.grid.unep.ch/datasets/gnv-data.html It's a bit tricky to understand their menu concept. After filling out a form you can download E00 data. This might be the Germany-including dataset: GNV159 - TERTIARY ADMINISTRATIVE UNITS OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (NUTS-3) Direct Data access is here: ftp://www.grid.unep.ch/pub/data/ Maybe that helps? Regards Markus Neteler _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list Freegis-list at intevation.de http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list From neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de Thu Nov 2 12:14:05 2000 From: neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:14:05 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: ; from WHarms@bfs.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:24:38AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:24:38AM +0100, Walter Harms wrote: > > > thanks for the hint, > actualy i am looking for tools in the sense of software but theses maps are nice of cause :). Aha! O.k., I am using GRASS GIS: http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/grass/index2.html a nice open source GIS system. > I would like to have a tool to digitize e.g. our 1:50K maps. That can be done with GRASS using the "v.digit" tool. > We have the offical top50 CD but i dont know the fileformat and it seems to be pretty useless if you dont have the (expensive) professional version. Yes, I know that CDROM. In fact, it's useless. You could just look at these data, nothing else. > btw: I try to plot a bunch of data collect from all over germany using GMT what does the geo. department in hannover use ? Usually I use GRASS and export the data to XFIG (a CorelDraw Clone). The GRASS module "v.out.xfig" export vector data, raster data can be exported in several image formats like tif, png etc. Recently an export script from GRASS to GMT was in the GRASS mailing list. So it could be done by scripts as well. Cheers Markus From cschulze at usf.uni-osnabrueck.de Thu Nov 2 12:51:11 2000 From: cschulze at usf.uni-osnabrueck.de (Carsten Schulze) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:51:11 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> Dear Markus, Markus Neteler wrote: > > > > We have the offical top50 CD but i dont know the fileformat and it seems to be pretty useless if you dont have the (expensive) professional version. > Yes, I know that CDROM. In fact, it's useless. You could just look at > these data, nothing else. > I would not call this set of CDs useless. In fact, without it I would have large trouble in finishing my PhD. t depends on what you want to do. Of course, it's a pity, you may not export them, but still it's a rather cheap way to get digital maps, compared to other German data. Cheers, Carsten -- Dipl. Systemwissenschaftler Carsten Schulze Institut f?r Umweltsystemforschung, Universit?t Osnabr?ck D-49069 Osnabr?ck Tel.: +49-541/969-2573, Fax -2599 mailto:Carsten.Schulze at usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE From neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de Thu Nov 2 13:49:30 2000 From: neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:49:30 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de>; from cschulze@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 12:51:11PM +0100 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> Message-ID: <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 12:51:11PM +0100, Carsten Schulze wrote: > Dear Markus, > > Markus Neteler wrote: > > > > > > > We have the offical top50 CD but i dont know the fileformat and it seems to be pretty useless if you dont have the (expensive) professional version. > > Yes, I know that CDROM. In fact, it's useless. You could just look at > > these data, nothing else. > > > I would not call this set of CDs useless. In fact, without it I would > have large trouble in finishing my PhD. t depends on what you want to > do. Of course, it's a pity, you may not export them, but still it's a > rather cheap way to get digital maps, compared to other German data. Hi Carsten, well, the point is that you can't even get the digital boundaries of Germany for free. For me that's unacceptable. I tried to contact the "Statistisches Bundesamt", of course without response. They have proudly announced their new online shop for data, but I won't pay for such maps (of general interest) if they have been paid by taxes already. At least a minimum dataset of European data should be available for download from governmental web sites. Concerning the top50 CD: I guess you are not allowed to publish any results of your thesis without the permission of the cdrom producers (will be LGN, Hannover). Usually they will charge you again... :-( Well, my opinion about the map policies here in Germany is quite bad. Same think with climate data: You cannot get anything. But if I want full climate data from India, I can download for free (yes, tons of data). As I am teaching GIS here at university, I am facing this data problem regularly. Ideas are welcome! Regards Markus From jhauser at ifm.uni-kiel.de Thu Nov 2 13:26:36 2000 From: jhauser at ifm.uni-kiel.de (Janko Hauser) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:26:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Would it be possible to use the proprietary data to correct some other, less accurate, but freely available data and publish the errors together with the free data? This is not a general solution, but there needs to be some incident, which serves as a starting point to discuss this with officials. Just a devils thought at a bright autumn afternoon :-) __Janko Markus Neteler writes: > well, the point is that you can't even get the digital boundaries of > Germany for free. For me that's unacceptable. I tried to contact the > "Statistisches Bundesamt", of course without response. They have proudly > announced their new online shop for data, but I won't pay for such > maps (of general interest) if they have been paid by taxes already. > At least a minimum dataset of European data should be available for > download from governmental web sites. > > Concerning the top50 CD: I guess you are not allowed to publish any > results of your thesis without the permission of the cdrom producers > (will be LGN, Hannover). Usually they will charge you again... :-( > > Well, my opinion about the map policies here in Germany is quite bad. > Same think with climate data: You cannot get anything. But if I want > full climate data from India, I can download for free (yes, tons of data). > > As I am teaching GIS here at university, I am facing this data problem > regularly. Ideas are welcome! > From cschulze at usf.uni-osnabrueck.de Thu Nov 2 13:45:09 2000 From: cschulze at usf.uni-osnabrueck.de (Carsten Schulze) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:45:09 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Message-ID: <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> Dear Janko, Janko Hauser wrote: > > Would it be possible to use the proprietary data to correct some > other, less accurate, but freely available data and publish the errors > together with the free data? This is not a general solution, but there > needs to be some incident, which serves as a starting point to discuss > this with officials. actually that's the way I use them. I have some data from different sources (not many data though, just what I need). In order to check them and to solve and correct some inconsistencies I have found, I have used the TK50 data published on the top50 CD (actually for North Rhine-Westphalia). Markus, I strongly agree with you about this policy. However, the top50 CD was a cheap way for the issues I had to solve (see above) Regards, Carsten > > Just a devils thought at a bright autumn afternoon :-) > > __Janko > > Markus Neteler writes: > > well, the point is that you can't even get the digital boundaries of > > Germany for free. For me that's unacceptable. I tried to contact the > > "Statistisches Bundesamt", of course without response. They have proudly > > announced their new online shop for data, but I won't pay for such > > maps (of general interest) if they have been paid by taxes already. > > At least a minimum dataset of European data should be available for > > download from governmental web sites. > > > > Concerning the top50 CD: I guess you are not allowed to publish any > > results of your thesis without the permission of the cdrom producers > > (will be LGN, Hannover). Usually they will charge you again... :-( > > > > Well, my opinion about the map policies here in Germany is quite bad. > > Same think with climate data: You cannot get anything. But if I want > > full climate data from India, I can download for free (yes, tons of data). > > > > As I am teaching GIS here at university, I am facing this data problem > > regularly. Ideas are welcome! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- Dipl. Systemwissenschaftler Carsten Schulze Institut f?r Umweltsystemforschung, Universit?t Osnabr?ck D-49069 Osnabr?ck Tel.: +49-541/969-2573, Fax -2599 mailto:Carsten.Schulze at usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE From frank.koormann at intevation.de Thu Nov 2 14:37:37 2000 From: frank.koormann at intevation.de (Frank Koormann) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:37:37 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] NTF to SHP converter In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101221155.037f8930@193.218.160.39>; from pennyb@btex.co.uk on Mit, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:13:29 +0000 References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101221155.037f8930@193.218.160.39> Message-ID: <20001102143737.A31682@abnoba.intevation.de> Penny, List, * Penny Bamborough (pennyb at btex.co.uk) [001101 23:10]: > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a NTF to ESRI Shape file (SHP) converter ? > For all: NTF stand for Neutral Transfer Format (former National Transfer Format), which is used by the Ordnancy Survey in Britain. The bad news: I am currently not aware of any free software to convert NTF to another data format. To conclude a brief net search: - There are gratis tools (or scripts) for some proprietary GIS Tools. You may try www.google.com with "ntf converter". - OS also provides data in dxf-Format which can be converted to shapefile e.g. by GRASS. Kind regards, Frank Koormann -- Frank Koormann http://intevation.net/~frank/ Professional Service around Free Software http://intevation.net/ FreeGIS Project http://freegis.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 248 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20001102/37b3d9b2/attachment.bin From neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de Thu Nov 2 15:57:34 2000 From: neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:57:34 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de>; from cschulze@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:45:09PM +0100 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> Message-ID: <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:45:09PM +0100, Carsten Schulze wrote: > Dear Janko, > > Janko Hauser wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to use the proprietary data to correct some > > other, less accurate, but freely available data and publish the errors > > together with the free data? This is not a general solution, but there > > needs to be some incident, which serves as a starting point to discuss > > this with officials. > > actually that's the way I use them. I have some data from different > sources (not many data though, just what I need). In order to check them > and to solve and correct some inconsistencies I have found, I have used > the TK50 data published on the top50 CD (actually for North > Rhine-Westphalia). > > Markus, I strongly agree with you about this policy. However, the top50 > CD was a cheap way for the issues I had to solve (see above) > > Regards, > Hi Carsten and Janko, what about collecting German/European data from free sources updated by other sources and publish them? It's no problem to find server space, either here or on freegis-server (hi Jan). I already started a page with URL collections: http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/phygeo/geodaten.html Especially free vector data would be interesting. Maybe we can partly automate the error checks and updates. I think we have access to VMAP Level 0 data (DCW stuff), probably this could be updated somehow. Line matching algorithm should be available somewhere. Being very interested to participate, Markus From warmerda at home.com Thu Nov 2 15:46:27 2000 From: warmerda at home.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:46:27 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] NTF to SHP converter References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001101221155.037f8930@193.218.160.39> <20001102143737.A31682@abnoba.intevation.de> Message-ID: <3A017E43.B4CD8DFD@home.com> Frank Koormann wrote: > > Penny, List, > > * Penny Bamborough (pennyb at btex.co.uk) [001101 23:10]: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know of a NTF to ESRI Shape file (SHP) converter ? > > > > For all: NTF stand for Neutral Transfer Format (former National Transfer > Format), which is used by the Ordnancy Survey in Britain. > > The bad news: I am currently not aware of any free software to convert > NTF to another data format. > > To conclude a brief net search: > - There are gratis tools (or scripts) for some proprietary GIS Tools. > You may try www.google.com with "ntf converter". > - OS also provides data in dxf-Format which can be converted to > shapefile e.g. by GRASS. Penny, My "OGR Simple Features Library" includes support for reading UK Ordnance Survey NTF data, and the ogr2ogr commandline program includes support for writing to other formats, including Shapefiles. What platform are you on? I would be willing to build ogr2ogr for you, if you are willing to act as a beta tester. More information on OGR is available at: http://gdal.velocet.ca/projects/opengis/ Best regards, ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerda at home.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://members.home.com/warmerda and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 2 16:52:16 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:52:16 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de>; from neteler@geog.uni-hannover.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 02:57:34PM +0000 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> Hi, On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 02:57:34PM +0000, Markus Neteler wrote: > I think we have access to VMAP Level 0 data (DCW stuff), probably > this could be updated somehow. Line matching algorithm should > be available somewhere. we have VMAP Level 0 R 3 ready at hand. OpenMap is able to read the VPF format and convert it to other formats. We should also consider the data associated with GMT (especially GSHHS). These vector data are of high quality. It would be good to distribute the work on Free GI Data with a central organization. We could form groups for different datasets (such as shorlines, rivers, ...) or for different areas (Germany, France, ...). I am not sure which style is better. In the end it will also depend on our human resources :-) Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de Thu Nov 2 17:43:57 2000 From: neteler at geog.uni-hannover.de (Markus Neteler) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:43:57 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de>; from jan@intevation.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 04:52:16PM +0100 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> Message-ID: <20001102164357.D8034@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 04:52:16PM +0100, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 02:57:34PM +0000, Markus Neteler wrote: > > I think we have access to VMAP Level 0 data (DCW stuff), probably > > this could be updated somehow. Line matching algorithm should > > be available somewhere. > > we have VMAP Level 0 R 3 ready at hand. > OpenMap is able to read the VPF format and convert > it to other formats. Hi Jan, how much MB/GB is that VMAP stuff? Am I right it is in 1:1Mio scale? > We should also consider the data associated with GMT > (especially GSHHS). These vector data are of high quality. Yes, that would be great (but why not using them directly? Copyright problems?). > It would be good to distribute the work on Free GI Data > with a central organization. We could form groups > for different datasets (such as shorlines, rivers, ...) > or for different areas (Germany, France, ...). > I am not sure which style is better. > In the end it will also depend on our human resources :-) Sounds good to me! Yours Markus From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 2 17:07:00 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:07:00 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <3A01917F.31C97172@home.com>; from warmerda@home.com on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:08:31AM -0500 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> <3A01917F.31C97172@home.com> Message-ID: <20001102170700.B32231@abnoba.intevation.de> Hi Frank, On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:08:31AM -0500, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > we have VMAP Level 0 R 3 ready at hand. > > OpenMap is able to read the VPF format and convert > > it to other formats. > > Jan, > > Are you serious that OpenMap now has the ability to save VPF data in > other vector formats? Are you sure? You got me. I am not 100% sure. We were able to load and display VPF data with OpenMap. There are Java classes for Shapefile handling and I don't see a reason why that should not work. If it does not work yet, I guess it should be fairly simple to fix it (I like Free Software :-). Has anyone on this list already tackled or solved this? Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 2 17:10:18 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:10:18 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <20001102164357.D8034@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de>; from neteler@geog.uni-hannover.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 04:43:57PM +0000 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> <20001102164357.D8034@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <20001102171018.C32231@abnoba.intevation.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 04:43:57PM +0000, Markus Neteler wrote: > > We should also consider the data associated with GMT > > (especially GSHHS). These vector data are of high quality. > Yes, that would be great (but why not using them directly? > Copyright problems?). No problems. GMT Data are really free thanks to the grand work of Paul Wessel and W. Smith. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From warmerda at home.com Thu Nov 2 17:20:42 2000 From: warmerda at home.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 11:20:42 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> <3A01917F.31C97172@home.com> <20001102170700.B32231@abnoba.intevation.de> Message-ID: <3A01945A.329DF0F3@home.com> Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:08:31AM -0500, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > > Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote: > > > we have VMAP Level 0 R 3 ready at hand. > > > OpenMap is able to read the VPF format and convert > > > it to other formats. > > > > Jan, > > > > Are you serious that OpenMap now has the ability to save VPF data in > > other vector formats? Are you sure? > > You got me. I am not 100% sure. We were able to load and display VPF > data with OpenMap. There are Java classes for Shapefile handling > and I don't see a reason why that should not work. > If it does not work yet, I guess it should be fairly simple > to fix it (I like Free Software :-). > > Has anyone on this list already tackled or solved this? Jan, On my last inspection OpenMap was display-only. The shapefile and vpf code didn't seem to include any write support. Note that OGDI includes a VPF reader, and I have an ogdi2shp program, so we should in theory be able to use these to convert VPF to shape. If you have a dataset you would like to try converting, feel free to send it to me, and I can try the process out. Note that the free OGDI source is becoming actively maintained again. The III (Interformation Interoperability Institute) has launched technical operations, and retained me to place the OGDI code on sourceforge, and clean it up a bit. I will try to keep this list abreast of significant developments on this front. I hope that at some point OGDI can be distributed on the FreeGIS CDs. Best regards, ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerda at home.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://members.home.com/warmerda and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From jan at intevation.de Thu Nov 2 17:27:24 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:27:24 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <3A01945A.329DF0F3@home.com>; from warmerda@home.com on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:20:42AM -0500 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> <3A0161D5.C62E4999@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102145734.T875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102165216.A32231@abnoba.intevation.de> <3A01917F.31C97172@home.com> <20001102170700.B32231@abnoba.intevation.de> <3A01945A.329DF0F3@home.com> Message-ID: <20001102172724.G32231@abnoba.intevation.de> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:20:42AM -0500, Frank Warmerdam wrote: > On my last inspection OpenMap was display-only. The shapefile and vpf code > didn't seem to include any write support. The shapefile seemed to have. I'll need to review that. > Note that OGDI includes a VPF reader, and I have an ogdi2shp program, so we > should in theory be able to use these to convert VPF to shape. If you have > a dataset you would like to try converting, feel free to send it to me, > and I can try the process out. > > Note that the free OGDI source is becoming actively maintained again. The > III (Interformation Interoperability Institute) has launched technical > operations, and retained me to place the OGDI code on sourceforge, and clean > it up a bit. I will try to keep this list abreast of significant developments > on this front. Great news. That would make the task of vpf2xxx conversion much easier! > I hope that at some point OGDI can be distributed on the FreeGIS CDs. If you manage to have OGDI read vpf and write e.g. shapefiles, I'll promise to immediately build rpm's and add it to the FreeGIS CD. Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca Sat Nov 4 01:19:49 2000 From: Matt.Wilkie at gov.yk.ca (Matt.Wilkie) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:19:49 -0800 Subject: [Freegis-list] Terrain Modelling Message-ID: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D075307134F7B@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Hi Jan, listers, Strictly speaking terrain modelling is not GIS, but done right it does require GIS data and there is some application overlap (DEM translators/converters for instance). I just found a site which has has the most comprehensive catalogue of Terrain Visualization programs available. It covers commericial, free, games, and academic circles. http://vterrain.org/Packages/noncommercial.html There are also a number of resources pages dealing with coordinate systems, file formats and integrating multiple data sources. http://vterrain.org/Projections/index.html And then there is a tool kit, which may* be OSD compliant, for building virtual terrain environments. http://vterrain.org/Toolbox/VTBuilder/index.html *from the website: "Q:What are the restrictions on the VTP source code? Is it under the GPL? "A: There are no restrictions. It is not under the GPL, so you do not even have to disclose the source if you improve it or include it in products that you sell." Unfortunately due to server limitations the tool kit is not downloadable - you have to request a CD to be mailed to you. I imagine that will not be the state of affairs for long. Anybody who's curious should email me and I'll pass on more info when I get the cd. http://vterrain.org/index.html cheers, -matt ======================================== Matt Wilkie * GIS Technician * Yukon Renewable Resources GIS http://renres.gov.yk.ca/pubs/rrgis/ From jan at intevation.de Sun Nov 12 15:01:51 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:01:51 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS news Message-ID: <20001112150151.A6951@abnoba.intevation.de> Dear all, here is a short summary on recent updates: new at FreeGIS (and it blames for me that it took so long to add): OGR Simple Features Library The OGR Simple Features Library is a C++ open source library (and commandline tools) providing read (and sometimes write) access to a variety of vector file formats including ESRI Shapefiles, and Mapinfo mid/mif and TAB formats. Version: 1.1.1 License: MIT The author is Frank Warmerdam, one of the busiest contributors to Free GIS software. Updates: GPSMan 5.1 -> 5.2 GPSMan is a graphical manager for GPS data and supports several GPS devices. Miguel Filgueir released the new version with many new and improved features. Anyone working with GPS should try out this tool. Miguel says that a real-time track logging with a moving map is under implementation and hopefully will be available before Christmas. Wow. MapIt! 0.5 -> 0.6 MapIt! is a light, raster-only, web mapping component. The update covers small improvements and a better packaging/installation. Work on simplifying installation continues .. GMT 3.3.5 -> 3.3.6 Paul Wessel, one of the main authors of GMT, has released a new version with several bug fixes and also some new features. GMT is a powerful collection of command line tools that everyone should have tried who is interested in producing maps in EPS format. GMT also allows to manipulate data. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Sun Nov 12 15:07:40 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:07:40 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Terrain Modelling In-Reply-To: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D075307134F7B@raptor.gov.yk.ca>; from Matt.Wilkie@gov.yk.ca on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:19:49PM -0800 References: <6DD7370C9452D31192A10008C75D075307134F7B@raptor.gov.yk.ca> Message-ID: <20001112150740.B6951@abnoba.intevation.de> Hi Matt, all, On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:19:49PM -0800, Matt.Wilkie wrote: > Strictly speaking terrain modelling is not GIS, but done right > it does require GIS data and there is some application overlap > (DEM translators/converters for instance). the VTP (Virtual Terrain Project) has a clear link to GIS and thus it is added on the FreeGIS page (already in the second week of october :-) I am in contact with the authors. They plan to release VTP as Free Software, but must substitute some portions of code that are from third parties and not Free Software. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Sun Nov 12 15:35:20 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:35:20 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] FreeGIS at the Systems 2000, Munich Message-ID: <20001112153520.A7149@abnoba.intevation.de> Dear list, I am just back from the Systems 2000 in Munich. We presented the FreeGIS project at the LinuxPark from 6.11. to 10.11. Bernhard Reiter also had a presentation about Free GIS at the Linux Forum. In short: We received interest far beyond what I expected. GIS is gaining broader interest in general and many people were happy to see that this topic is covered by Free Software. Especially the web mapping tools MapServer and MapIt! surprised lots of visitors - there will be many downloads soon. Also the capabilities of a full GIS were thought as only available for some 10K Euro per license. We gave them the FreeGIS CD in their hands to play around with GRASS and distribute it among their collegues :-) We talked to several companies and explained the potential of the Free Software approach and they realized that it makes sense to support further developments (in general and for specific purposes). Finally, I was happy to talk to some Free GIS users and developers. The FreeGIS series in the german Linux Magazin will continue and some further interesting GIS tools will be released as Free Software. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jan at intevation.de Mon Nov 13 17:00:11 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:00:11 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] further FreeGIS updates Message-ID: <20001113170011.A9379@abnoba.intevation.de> Dear all, the GeoPoly page has gone offline forever, so I removed it from the list. It would make sense to archive such pages at freegis.org in future. tkgeomap 1.3 -> 1.4.1 Gordon Carri has updated tkgeomap. Tkgeomap is a set of extensions to Tcl/Tk for displaying and interacting with geographic data. Also the homepage of tkgeomap is extended. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From m.herter at infas-geodaten.de Tue Nov 14 14:32:18 2000 From: m.herter at infas-geodaten.de (Michael Herter) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:32:18 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <01C04E47.B1B88B80.m.herter@infas-geodaten.de> Liebe Liste, ist eine Routine bekannt, die auf Basis eines Shapefiles die Strecke von A nach B ermittelt? Thanx for any reply! Michael Herter infas GEOdaten From jan at intevation.de Tue Nov 14 14:51:33 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:51:33 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <01C04E47.B1B88B80.m.herter@infas-geodaten.de>; from m.herter@infas-geodaten.de on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:32:18PM +0100 References: <01C04E47.B1B88B80.m.herter@infas-geodaten.de> Message-ID: <20001114145133.A6581@mimirs.intevation.de> Dear Michael, On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Michael Herter wrote: > ist eine Routine bekannt, die auf Basis > eines Shapefiles die Strecke von > A nach B ermittelt? For those who don't speak german: The question was whether you know any routine that computes a route (or a distance?) from A to B on the basis of shapefiles. Route: Shapefiles have no topology, hence standard algorithms can not directly be applied on shapefile-based data. Thus the requested routine must at least build some topologic information out of the shapefile data. Distance: Much easier. Without consideration of the projection it is a 10-lines program based e.g. on shapelib. With consideration of a projection it might make sense to incorporate PROJ4. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From jhauser at ifm.uni-kiel.de Tue Nov 14 15:08:57 2000 From: jhauser at ifm.uni-kiel.de (Janko Hauser) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:08:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20001114145133.A6581@mimirs.intevation.de> References: <01C04E47.B1B88B80.m.herter@infas-geodaten.de> <20001114145133.A6581@mimirs.intevation.de> Message-ID: <20001114140857.13885.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Pardon, in wich way would Proj4 help with the problem of distance calculation? Are there new routines in Proj4 which calculate distances? Which form of distance? TIA, __Janko From jan at intevation.de Tue Nov 14 16:08:55 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:08:55 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20001114140857.13885.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de>; from jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:08:57PM +0100 References: <01C04E47.B1B88B80.m.herter@infas-geodaten.de> <20001114145133.A6581@mimirs.intevation.de> <20001114140857.13885.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Message-ID: <20001114160855.B6601@mimirs.intevation.de> On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:08:57PM +0100, Janko Hauser wrote: > Pardon, in wich way would Proj4 help with the problem of distance > calculation? Are there new routines in Proj4 which calculate > distances? Which form of distance? sorry for my unprecise answer. I had euclidean distances in my mind and usually you have simple geographic lat/long in a shapefile. Thus you can use PROJ4 to convert lat/long coordinates and then perform a simple euclidean computation of distances e.g. to express meters within a small area. I am not aware of distance calculation routines in PROJ4 (haven't sought for it either :-) OpenMap graphically displays distances on different projections moving the mouse around - quite nice. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/ From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Nov 14 16:25:07 2000 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Tools In-Reply-To: <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de>; from jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:26:36PM +0100 References: <20001102111405.O875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <3A01552F.F697087A@usf.uni-osnabrueck.de> <20001102124929.R875@hgeo02.geog.uni-hannover.de> <20001102122636.13273.qmail@lisboa.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Message-ID: <20001114162507.F17490@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:26:36PM +0100, Janko Hauser wrote: > Would it be possible to use the proprietary data to correct some > other, less accurate, but freely available data and publish the errors > together with the free data? A late follow up on this: Yes I think this is possible depending on how much of the proprietory information you are using. Most copyright laws do have fair use rights for everybody which allows you to reuse the information to create your own data. Wether this interferes with the rights of the copyright holder, depends on how you use the information and how muhc of the information you use. Just looking at a proprietory map and correcting errors in free data should be covered by fair use (but this is no legal advice because IANAL). Regards, Bernhard > This is not a general solution, but there > needs to be some incident, which serves as a starting point to discuss > this with officials. > > Just a devils thought at a bright autumn afternoon :-) > > __Janko > > > Markus Neteler writes: > > well, the point is that you can't even get the digital boundaries of > > Germany for free. For me that's unacceptable. I tried to contact the > > "Statistisches Bundesamt", of course without response. They have proudly > > announced their new online shop for data, but I won't pay for such > > maps (of general interest) if they have been paid by taxes already. > > At least a minimum dataset of European data should be available for > > download from governmental web sites. > > > > Concerning the top50 CD: I guess you are not allowed to publish any > > results of your thesis without the permission of the cdrom producers > > (will be LGN, Hannover). Usually they will charge you again... :-( > > > > Well, my opinion about the map policies here in Germany is quite bad. > > Same think with climate data: You cannot get anything. But if I want > > full climate data from India, I can download for free (yes, tons of data). > > > > As I am teaching GIS here at university, I am facing this data problem > > regularly. Ideas are welcome! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 236 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20001114/0bb52246/attachment.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Nov 14 16:38:13 2000 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:38:13 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] License on your shapefiles? Message-ID: <20001114163813.G17490@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> Hello, there are shapefiles freely downloadble from your site at: http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/EIshape.htm You mention public domain data in the text below, can you tell me if the shapefiles which can be downloaded from this page are all public domain? This is not entirely clear to me and I have not found a notice about it. Thanks in advance, Bernhard ps.: I have set the reply-to mail header to the freegis-list, because all people there are interested in the answer. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The binaries will be available at http://www.geog.uni-hannover.de/grass/index2.html http://www.baylor.edu/~grass/index2.html and the mirrors soon. Thanks to Jeshua Lacock for building the binaries. Perhaps interesting for FreeGIS, too? Cheers Markus Neteler From epiinfo at cdc.gov Wed Nov 15 15:51:04 2000 From: epiinfo at cdc.gov (EPI Info Helpdesk) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:51:04 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: License on your shapefiles? Message-ID: Some shapefiles are free to download while others may have some sort of charge associated with them depending on the situation. Thanks! Epi Info Technical Support Centers for Disease Control Epidemiology Program Office 4770 Buford Highway MS/K74 Atlanta, GA 30341 Phone: (770) 488-8440 Fax: (770) 488-8456 Email: epiinfo at cdc.gov -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Reiter [mailto:bernhard at intevation.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:38 AM To: epiinfo at cdc.gov Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de Subject: License on your shapefiles? Hello, there are shapefiles freely downloadble from your site at: http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/EIshape.htm You mention public domain data in the text below, can you tell me if the shapefiles which can be downloaded from this page are all public domain? This is not entirely clear to me and I have not found a notice about it. Thanks in advance, Bernhard ps.: I have set the reply-to mail header to the freegis-list, because all people there are interested in the answer. -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Nov 16 16:18:06 2000 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:18:06 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] RE: License on your shapefiles? In-Reply-To: ; from epiinfo@cdc.gov on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:51:04AM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20001116161806.K10805@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:51:04AM -0500, EPI Info Helpdesk wrote: > Some shapefiles are free to download while others may have some sort of > charge associated with them depending on the situation. Thanks! This does not answer my question. Does that mean that all shapefiles that I can download are in the public domain? This is the question about who hold the copyrights. Once downloaded are there restrictions on the use of the shapefiles? Thanks again, Bernhard > -----Original Message----- > From: Bernhard Reiter [mailto:bernhard at intevation.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:38 AM > To: epiinfo at cdc.gov > Cc: freegis-list at intevation.de > Subject: License on your shapefiles? > > > Hello, > there are shapefiles freely downloadble from your site at: > http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/EIshape.htm > > You mention public domain data in the text below, > can you tell me if the shapefiles which can be downloaded from this > page are all public domain? > > This is not entirely clear to me and I have not found a notice about it. > > Thanks in advance, > Bernhard > > ps.: I have set the reply-to mail header to the freegis-list, because > all people there are interested in the answer. > > -- > Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) > The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) > Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) > > _______________________________________________ > Freegis-list mailing list > Freegis-list at intevation.de > http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The GMT is on the freegis CD. The documentation outlines how you can convert GMT data to shapefiles: http://freegis.org/FreeGIS_CD/gmtdata.en.html > > Perhaps we should prepare a new global dataset with some more > > documentation. Any hints where to get data? VMAP0 rev3, this is the successor of DCW. We have the four CDs and can copy and send them out if you cover our costs. (and we should all lobby to get VMAP1 released from NIMA.) > May be the pangaea-database is helpful? They provide coastline and > bathymetric records of different resolution, normally for use with their > software "PANMAP". > > Might be worth a glimpse: www.pangaea.de There is some data available from: http://www.pangaea.de/Software/PanMap/ It would be interesting to know if PANMap is free software or not (because they did not mention that source code is available.) and if the the data is all free data (in the sense of freedom). Then we could list it on freegis.org. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 236 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20001116/9ab20d97/attachment.bin From bernhard at intevation.de Thu Nov 16 16:43:27 2000 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:43:27 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] gps3d v1.14 released Message-ID: <20001116164327.M10805@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> The current version of gps3d is 1.14 now (freegis pages will reflect this with the next update.) Bernhard From the changelog: Version 1.14 Zoom level bounds changed Continuous zoom factor for mapblast maps Map brush is now visible and size is tunable Changed default colors of some info stuff -- More visible Fixed zoom factor for mapblast maps: Maps now stitch correctly Enter key is now used to grab a map from the internet Large map patches are now proper spherical patches. Version 1.13 Port to Win32 Version 1.12 Added automatic mip-mapping Fixed a bug in waypoint drawing Added viewing matrix renormalization Added automatic max texture size handling Added a switch to turn texture filtering On/Off Viewing stuff with large zooms is now more usable Updated the default Track file with a longer sailing trip When centering view on a fix, current zoom level is retained Added tounix.pl to help moving the tree between Unix and Win32 Added support for on-the-fly loading of road maps from the internet (not finished: maps dont stitch properly) Version 1.11 Minor fix to get it to run on Win32 -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 236 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20001116/f1fd8028/attachment.bin From lbottorff at harveycounty.com Thu Nov 16 17:04:04 2000 From: lbottorff at harveycounty.com (lbottorff@harveycounty.com) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:04:04 -0600 Subject: [Freegis-list] Trying to hack ARC/INFO Message-ID: <86256999.005843BF.00@mail.harveycounty.com> Hello, I'm stuck in a Microsoft/ARCINFO world, but I would like to find a way to hack the data side of ARC/INFO coverages in order to extract the basic data/attribute stuff into an XML format (and eventually into Postgres). Our new 8.0.2 has "metadata", but it's only a small part of the real data and attribs behind a full coverage. I'm guessing an SDTS-to-XML process might be my best bet. Does such a thing exist? Or any other ideas out there Also, would a free/open source GIS product be capable of taking over a cadasteral/parcel GIS project from ARC/INFO. If so, I'd like to argue to my superiors about going totally open source. Larry Bottorff Harvey County, Kansas (USA) 316-284-6953 From warmerdam at pobox.com Thu Nov 16 17:35:34 2000 From: warmerdam at pobox.com (Frank Warmerdam) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:34 -0500 Subject: [Freegis-list] Trying to hack ARC/INFO References: <86256999.005843BF.00@mail.harveycounty.com> Message-ID: <3A140CD6.8840A269@pobox.com> lbottorff at harveycounty.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm stuck in a Microsoft/ARCINFO world, but I would like to find a way to hack > the data side of ARC/INFO coverages in order to extract the basic data/attribute > stuff into an XML format (and eventually into Postgres). Our new 8.0.2 has > "metadata", but it's only a small part of the real data and attribs behind a > full coverage. I'm guessing an SDTS-to-XML process might be my best bet. Does > such a thing exist? Or any other ideas out there Larry, The traditional 7.x Arc/Info binary coverages format has been reverse engineered, and the format is available at: http://pages.infinit.net/danmo/e00/docs/v7_bin_cover.html I would be interested in hearing if this has changed dramatically in V8. Daniel also has code that can translate binary coverages to E00 format, which is accessable in many more systems. However, if you already arc/info you might be best of converting to E00 within Arc/Info, and using that as your source data. Daniel also has an E00 format analysis at: http://pages.infinit.net/danmo/e00/docs/v7_e00_cover.html I presume you are wanting to hold your coverages in PostgreSQL in a topogical form similar to how it is stored within arc/info, is that right? If you do this, I would be interested in hearing how you approach it. > Also, would a free/open source GIS product be capable of taking over a > cadasteral/parcel GIS project from ARC/INFO. If so, I'd like to argue to my > superiors about going totally open source. It certainly is possible, but it would likely involve a fair amount of development, or at least customization. It would also likely involve a degree of political risk that would make it difficult. I would suggest going ahead and translating the data, and building a small demonstrator before making a big push with your boss. I don't know what all is important for cadasteral application, so I can't say too much more. Best regards, ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmerdam at pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerda and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent From pennyb at btex.co.uk Fri Nov 17 08:57:10 2000 From: pennyb at btex.co.uk (Penny Bamborough) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:57:10 +0000 Subject: [Freegis-list] World Data Sets Message-ID: <5.0.1.4.2.20001117075344.066e7760@193.218.160.39> Hi We have a copy of ESRI's Maplex and are planning on creating a set of raster images of world maps, hopefully at something like 1:1000000. Can anyone point me to a source of free vector data suitable for this exercise (We'd be quite happy to make the raster data public domain once rendered) Penny Bamborough From bernhard at intevation.de Tue Nov 28 11:50:38 2000 From: bernhard at intevation.de (Bernhard Reiter) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:50:38 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] gdal rpm availabe Message-ID: <20001128115038.G21733@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> Hi, the Intevation GmbH created the first test gdal rpm for i386 to be included in the next FreeGIS-CD release. You can get it from: ftp://intevation.de/freegis/gnu-linux-i586/updates/ Let us know if it works fine. Bernhard -- Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) FSF Europe (www.fsfeurope.org) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 236 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/attachments/20001128/b03174c3/attachment.bin From neilh at mhp.co.za Tue Nov 28 11:16:12 2000 From: neilh at mhp.co.za (Neil Hartley) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:16:12 +0200 Subject: [Freegis-list] Shape to Regis converters Message-ID: <006001c05924$3cc96460$228a26c4@MHP.co.za> Could any one help I am looking for a ESRI Shape to Regis converter Kind regards Neil ,,, /'^'\ ( - o ) ------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo----------------- Neil Hartley MHP Geomatics neilh at mhp.co.za GIS Manager 27-31-2668242 Durban 27-31-2667005 South Africa 082 829 8277 www.mhp.co.za ftp://196.22.198.27 .oooO Oooo. ----------------\ (----( )---------------------- \ _) ) / (_ / From jan at intevation.de Wed Nov 29 08:47:25 2000 From: jan at intevation.de (Jan-Oliver Wagner) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Freegis-list] Shape to Regis converters In-Reply-To: <006001c05924$3cc96460$228a26c4@MHP.co.za>; from neilh@mhp.co.za on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 12:16:12PM +0200 References: <006001c05924$3cc96460$228a26c4@MHP.co.za> Message-ID: <20001129084725.C28747@abnoba.intevation.de> On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 12:16:12PM +0200, Neil Hartley wrote: > Could any one help I am looking for a ESRI Shape to Regis converter I am not familiar with REGIS. Have they published the format description? As far as I see REGIS is a partner of ESRI. There Should be a conversion opportunity. Cheers Jan -- Jan-Oliver Wagner http://intevation.de/~jan/ Intevation GmbH http://intevation.de/ FreeGIS http://freegis.org/